Bedini SG

[nvisser]

[QUOTE=uusedman;63193]I am running my SSG Motor on a tesla switch setup. All I can say is wow.

Hi
Will you please explain or post a diagram on how you do that
Do you switch it or is a more like the static bowling method

[uusedman]

I am running my SSG Motor on a tesla switch setup. All I can say is wow.

Can someone please make a step-by-step video of how to pulse the capacitor into the battery. I don't know if I am doing right, or if I understand it correctly.

[blackchisel97]

-tjnlsn255, Yes John talks about this circuit in FEG book. I have this running and playing with, still not 100% sure about 555 tuning. Should it be 50/50 or??? I know the coil should be 1:1 450T AWG#23, mine has #26 trigger and two #23 windings, all twisted. Just got another coil done yesterday, will try when time permits. Did anyone try this circuit and has some experience with?

Cheers

Vtech

[morpher44]

Bedini with microcontroller?

The Bedini SSG is such an elegant circuit.

I had the thought that a microcontroller could possibly be added to the mix.
The sensing coil, instead of triggering the 2n3055 to fire could be sensed by a microcontroller. An algorithm could ESTIMATE, in real-time, WHEN to fire the 2n3055 relative to the pulse it sensed.

If you could use the approach of getting up to speed initially ... and then trying to coast with minimal pulses to the motor, and if the drag as you "generate power" is not too high, you might be able to be a bit "smarter" about the energy you put IN to the system.

Microcontrollers these days are very lower power. The PIC32, for example, is a good choice here.

As for "radiant spikes". These could possibly be observed on the sensing coil as well and the algorithm could
decide which RMP gives the MOST spikes ... and try to keep it there. Usually that would be a very SLOW RPM.

It would also be interesting to know, experimentally, whether a microcontroller in the feedback path PREVENTS
the radiant spikes.

Anyone consider this?

[tjnlsn255]

Uusedman,

How would the battery hook up?

I am not sure but I think in your picture the cap will be charged all the time....

Take a look at this Bedini Schematic....

He goes to a lot of effort to pulse the cap into the charge batteries....

Does anyone know if there is a description of this circuit in his book?

Have fun.....

Tj

[uusedman]

This is what I was think about. Let me know what you think.

[tjnlsn255]

Uusedman,

How will you set the timing of the transistor?

Will you have a seperate trigger coil for the cap pulse transistor? Will you set/time the cap to discharge when the coil is turned off?

Just curious.....

Tj

[uusedman]

Uusedman,

Thanks for the video it helps a lot....

What would happen if you used a relay to send the cap charge to a battery when the relay closed?

I was thinking of using a set of car ignition points and a cam on the rotor to activate the relay when the rotor is not on the magnets....

Just a thought.....

Have fun....

Tj

Yes, I need to discharged the Cap to a battery. I don't know how a car ignition point and cam work, can you draw it or link a page that explain the setup.

I was think of using a transistor to discharge the Cap by put a resistor to the base of Transistor with the emitter and collector being on the Plus and Neg.

[tjnlsn255]

Uusedman,

Thanks for the video it helps a lot....

What would happen if you used a relay to send the cap charge to a battery when the relay closed?

I was thinking of using a set of car ignition points and a cam on the rotor to activate the relay when the rotor is not on the magnets....

Just a thought.....

Have fun....

Tj

[uusedman]

Hello ,

Well I did run primitive tests to compare results. Making another Flywheel that is identical in spacing and position is extremely difficult.

I placed a smaller rotor behind the monopole which ran it, but the problem is the TRIGGERING. The Bigger Flywheel slowed down and it showed signs of un-harmonic resonance. It would have stopped if I continuned to keep the small rotor on the South Pole of the Monopole.

So I tried the Solid-State configuration and this is where the numbers are great. I placed an air coil to about half of the Monopole to retrieve the energy being emanated outwardly. AMP draw decrease upon a load and slowed rose when the capacitor was filled to the total potential possible. Upon discharging the AMP draw decreased! However, there was a slight decrease on the Voltage drawn to about .01 - .02. Charge battery showed signs of increase of its Voltage.

Can this be too good to be true? Have someone else tried an air coil that is an exterior to the Monopole?


YouTube - Bedini 3-2

I am going to try to put the Monopole completely inside the air coil, which we will have an increase of Radiant Energy being Extracted.

Awaiting your thoughts and feedback.

[uusedman]

Brilliant! Yes, there is a pulsed magnetic field there. Then the motor would more resemble an infiniti symbol. The other wheel would have to be identical as the first one otherwise you will have drag or possibly weirdness / false triggering. You might be able to spin it the opposite direction at same rpms... both wheels would have to be perfect in magnet spacing, and then that would basically just increase the weight the coil resonates with but with both sides.

Interesting idea

Yes, there is a mechanical potential. OR we can just recover those pulse by placing an inductor, similar to a MEG.

I will try to post some videos of a recovery solid-state setup.

[CosmicFarmer]

Brilliant! Yes, there is a pulsed magnetic field there. Then the motor would more resemble an infiniti symbol. The other wheel would have to be identical as the first one otherwise you will have drag or possibly weirdness / false triggering. You might be able to spin it the opposite direction at same rpms... both wheels would have to be perfect in magnet spacing, and then that would basically just increase the weight the coil resonates with but with both sides.

Interesting idea

[uusedman]

Apparently there is a difference between N and S, such as the north pole repulsive forces are stronger then the south pole, but only slightly so. That, and I think you might have to flip your coil upside down if you reverse your magnet facing.

About caps - Correct me if I'm wrong, but larger caps charge differently then smaller ones in relation to a signal. if your capacitor is exactly as big as the pulse, then it fills up more efficiently then an oversized cap. Dr. Stiffler knows more about caps then I do.

Farads is the surface area between metal plates, and voltage is the distance between metal plates and dielectric efficiency.

Also when caps discharge to another cap, 1/4 of the energy is lost. If you use the cap to charge an inductor and nebulize it, the inductor's flyback charges the second cap much better then the DC pulse from the first configuration. Some is still lost, but its a better transfer. The root idea is the flyback gives you a better charge, and that is exactly what the SSG uses to charge stuff. This flyback is what seems to heal the batteries. If you want to think deeply, then you can compare the hot electricity from the metal near the caps to the magnetic energy from flyback, and see that even though both are claimed to be electricity, one is much different and behaves similar to, but different then, electricity. This is magnetic power, regenerative in nature. This is why flyback can heal batteries while hot current (divergent in nature) destroys em.


People have tried to use S pole motors and even alternating pole motors but I think it was experimentally found that N pole motors operate better. Something about the N side of a magnet, maybe it supports a stronger Bloch wall? ...

@tjnlsn255 and @CosmicFarmer

Thanks about that informative lesson on caps. The reason why i am using a cermic HV capacitor at the rectifier is to capture the flyback. This inductor is an air coil that I was using for my Newman project. So I thought maybe we can capture the huge flybacks.

However on the point of N facing magnets and south facing magnets, you hit it on the point. Ed Leedsklanin did mention that north pole on magnets are slightly strong from south pole magnet. However, this is not what I am using. What tjnlsn255 posted is what I am talking about. That the backside of the inductor is wasted energy. You can run another rotor on the same SSG circuit by easily attaching a rotor on the opposite end. I would like to think of it like as the following. North side of inductor is for the mechanical potential and south side of inductor for solid-state potential.

And yes tjnlsn255 , that is what i thought of. You can attach on the other side whatever rotor you like, however, it might interfere in the triggering process
what do you think?

[tjnlsn255]

Uusedman:

Interesting video.....

I am curious why you used two seperate rotors/shafts instead of two rotors on a common shaft... I was thinking that would increase torque and possible use of the shaft for mechanical work.....

Check out this video.... the motor in this video is even a self starter..... interesting....must be the positioning of the magnets on each rotor crossing the core of the coil at different times for N and S.......

YouTube - simple magnet motor

Be happy....

Tj

[CosmicFarmer]

Apparently there is a difference between N and S, such as the north pole repulsive forces are stronger then the south pole, but only slightly so. That, and I think you might have to flip your coil upside down if you reverse your magnet facing.

About caps - Correct me if I'm wrong, but larger caps charge differently then smaller ones in relation to a signal. if your capacitor is exactly as big as the pulse, then it fills up more efficiently then an oversized cap. Dr. Stiffler knows more about caps then I do.

Farads is the surface area between metal plates, and voltage is the distance between metal plates and dielectric efficiency.

Also when caps discharge to another cap, 1/4 of the energy is lost. If you use the cap to charge an inductor and nebulize it, the inductor's flyback charges the second cap much better then the DC pulse from the first configuration. Some is still lost, but its a better transfer. The root idea is the flyback gives you a better charge, and that is exactly what the SSG uses to charge stuff. This flyback is what seems to heal the batteries. If you want to think deeply, then you can compare the hot electricity from the metal near the caps to the magnetic energy from flyback, and see that even though both are claimed to be electricity, one is much different and behaves similar to, but different then, electricity. This is magnetic power, regenerative in nature. This is why flyback can heal batteries while hot current (divergent in nature) destroys em.


People have tried to use S pole motors and even alternating pole motors but I think it was experimentally found that N pole motors operate better. Something about the N side of a magnet, maybe it supports a stronger Bloch wall? ...