Bedini SG

[elias]

Sticking to Bedini's design

I did try the weaker magnet, still no go I am going back to my multi coil setup.

That's a good idea. Bedini has not designed his systems like this due to accident! I believe he has tested and experimented years until he has reached a circuit like this. I have just decided to build a good big energizer and test it after conditioning my batteries properly. Other modifications to the circuit are after one achieves COP > 1 with this setup in my opinion.

I only posted that document for the second part, which may be a use for batteries to catch more radiant energy for us, nothing more. If one wants huge oscillations, 555, or a similar circuit can be used also, with a relay or something like that.

Elias

[theremart]

RE: Generator.

Sigh,

Well I put 5 Coils firing on the wheel I attached to this generator, and I could not get it to turn . I am seriously thinking about returning this generator...

The other option I have is to build a motor that uses very little power to turn this generator to achieve over unity,

Per say ->
http://www.geocities.com/koneheadx/32magnetrotor.html


Or, to build an alcohol still and use a lawnmower powered by the alcohol to turn the alternator to charge the batteries. ( this requires some serious travel and work )

theremart,
sonds really good. Hope that the thing with the ground wire and diode will work well for you But don't have too much hopes for the wind generator/alternator. Today I received mine and it is hard to turn the shaft. I had some usual alternators before and they were easy to turn in lo load conditions, but not this permanent magnet alternator. This could be due to the strong magnets and the drag from the copper coils, I don't know if that is supposed to be so, I emailed the seller about this. Nevertheless it generates very well. I don't think that your SSG will have enough torque to turn such a generator (as in picture), because my 6 coil/transistor SSG certainly is not able to turn this generator maybe a big flywheel would help a little.
Hope my new Lindemann attraction motor design will have enough torque

Edit:
Heh, I really should read the instructions or manuals first Here what it says:
"It is normal in the first few hours of use to hear some clicking sounds when the alternator is turning. This is due to the close tolerance of the rotor and stator assembly. Also it may feel somewhat hard to turn the shaft by hand, but as the bearings "break-in" you will notice that the alternator will start to turn in much slower winds. This may take several days of use depending on your local wind conditions."

Thanks,
Jetijs

[elias]

Very Odd!!

Sigh,

Well I put 5 Coils firing on the wheel I attached to this generator, and I could not get it to turn . I am seriously thinking about returning this generator...

The other option I have is to build a motor that uses very little power to turn this generator to achieve over unity,

Per say ->
http://www.geocities.com/koneheadx/32magnetrotor.html


Or, to build an alcohol still and use a lawnmower powered by the alcohol to turn the alternator to charge the batteries. ( this requires some serious travel and work )

The generator must only drag, when a load is attached to the output. If it does not turn without a load so easily then it must be an issue with poor design. It is very disappointing to see that you could not turn it with a five coil SSG.

[Jetijs]

Try to attach the generator to a electric drill or something like that to turn it for a few days or so and then see if it turns lighter. Because the bearings must "kick in" before you will get the light rotation. If this does not help, then you may consider to return the generator.

[theremart]

Well I returned the generator...

And I have moved back to my multi coil system.

Today I found a video I wished I would of found months ago.

Bedini Monopole Mechanical Oscillator SSG Energizer dialup speed Video Presentat

This is the baby steps of building an SSG. There is a lot of little bits of information in this video that has helped me to understand the bigger picture.

I am starting to charge up small batteries with 2 solar chargers that I have found and I have wired them up in series. So even on cloudy days it is starting to charge a battery for my power source, I do hope to be able to charge a 12 V battery so that I can use it to charge 4 others. ( have had alot of cloudy days but that is to be expected in winter )

I am very pleased with leaving the charger on the batteries for over 4 days. 2 of my batteries are right at 13 V. ( these are ) 115 AH batteries. These were declared dead, ( they did not load test well ) today when I put one under load it stayed at 12.4 V for over 3 hours pulling 1/2 amp. This is very marked improvement, from where it started only staying on for about 13 min.

I have not lost hope, only shifting directions, I do feel that I am being drawn to get an usb computer oscilloscope, but I am always drawn in 30 directions

I am thinking next I will put the golf cart batteries in 24 V ( sets ) then start swaping them in charge so they get conditioned much better.

I just picked up some capacitors, I am thinking of taking my relay and using a photo sensor to trigger the release of the cap when the light comes on at 24 V. Have not quite worked out the details of that yet...

So many projects, so little time, but hey it is fun !

[elias]

Bedini's Energizer Pictures

Has anyone seen these pictures?
New Page 2

They are rather interesting, I hadn't seen them before, which show the development of Bedini's six coil energizer in pictures, stage by stage.

[Aaron]

John Bedini's webpages

Hi Elias,

This page has a compilation of all of John's links in his websites:
John Bedini | Radiant Energy

[splocal]

Has anyone seen these pictures?
New Page 2

They are rather interesting, I hadn't seen them before, which show the development of Bedini's six coil energizer in pictures, stage by stage.

That is REALLY COOL! makes me want to go make one today! Iam sure it is more complicated than it looks though, one thing I noticed was 4 transistors per coil why? maybe the power coming off the coils are too powerful for one transistor they appeared to be hooked up to a copper strip so they would trigger at the same time, and those aren’t
2N3055's either. Look like the MJ's, I also wonder why he used an aluminum rotor as appose to an acrylic one like the rest of the device seems more expensive using metal. It would be great one day to get off the grid with a device like this! Imagine the changes that would take place in the world if we would just embrace this concept!

[elias]

Hi Elias,

This page has a compilation of all of John's links in his websites:
John Bedini | Radiant Energy

Thanks Aaron,
But I couldn't see this page on your links list. This page mainly interested me as it demonstrates building a six coiler SSG stage by stage in pictures by Bedini himself. It is quite neat.

[ren]

That is REALLY COOL! makes me want to go make one today! Iam sure it is more complicated than it looks though, one thing I noticed was 4 transistors per coil why? maybe the power coming off the coils are too powerful for one transistor they appeared to be hooked up to a copper strip so they would trigger at the same time, and those aren’t
2N3055's either. Look like the MJ's, I also wonder why he used an aluminum rotor as appose to an acrylic one like the rest of the device seems more expensive using metal. It would be great one day to get off the grid with a device like this! Imagine the changes that would take place in the world if we would just embrace this concept!

Splocal, John has hooked up each coil in a master slave configuration. IF all coils are firing at the same time, then each coil doesnt need a separate trigger and you can trigger all transistors to fire all windings off of one trigger winding. This is sort of like an ampification effect with say 4 windings firing at the same time on a different transistor each as opposed to 1 transistor with four windings connected to its collector. Much stronger and much faster. The aluminum rotor looks like it was picked for mass and flywheel effect. Imagine trying to stop that with your hands at full speed

[splocal]

4 transistors per coil

Splocal, John has hooked up each coil in a master slave configuration. IF all coils are firing at the same time, then each coil doesnt need a separate trigger and you can trigger all transistors to fire all windings off of one trigger winding. This is sort of like an ampification effect with say 4 windings firing at the same time on a different transistor each as opposed to 1 transistor with four windings connected to its collector. Much stronger and much faster. The aluminum rotor looks like it was picked for mass and flywheel effect. Imagine trying to stop that with your hands at full speed

Ren here is a schematic I found from Bedini himself however I only see one transistor per coil! I too have my dual coil SG setup in a slave configuration one coil triggers both coils to fire simultaneously seems to work well just haven't got around to tunning it yet. In those pictures he has 4 transistors per coil that is what confused me the schematic I have only requires one per coil. Good point on the mass for the fly wheel, once it gets moving it would have allot more torque!

[ren]

I think that the schematic is simply drawn like that for simplicity. The slave coils can be separate coils or they can be multiple windings on one coil. By the look of JB's pics he has 4 transistors in a row per board, so he probably has 4 filar coils, meaning each coil has 4 lengths of wire. However one of them (the master) would be 5 filar to accomodate the trigger winding.

[splocal]

I think that the schematic is simply drawn like that for simplicity. The slave coils can be separate coils or they can be multiple windings on one coil. By the look of JB's pics he has 4 transistors in a row per board, so he probably has 4 filar coils, meaning each coil has 4 lengths of wire. However one of them (the master) would be 5 filar to accomodate the trigger winding.

Ahhhh so each wire has a separate transistor! I have a bifilar on my second coil but hooked up my one transistor to both wires. I wonder does having multiple transistors per coil increase the E-effect ( environmental energy amplification). In my opinion whatever John bedini does is worth trying since he is the father of these motors anyways.

[ren]

yep you got it! Split yours and run two transistors, using the signal from your trigger to activate the second transistor. You can have a switch for each transistor, so you can run on one and note the differences when the second is off/on.

[theremart]

Wow the Princess of SSG

All I can say is wow. She has a collection of SSG's that will not quit Very well crafted, and very down to earth in the explanations. The drawings are awesome.

Erwin's Work Shop