Bedini Schoolgirl

[blackchisel97]

I have built my circuit according to the diagram provided but my magnet works direction is north as well as my magnets but will not spin for long when I turn it. I built it on a bike wheel. my question is what possibilities could stop it from turning? I have a 22 and 24 gauge wire with about 100 turns and it heats up very hot.

Your coil has too low impedance. You should have at least 120 -150 feet of bifilar, not 100 turns. That's the reason it is getting hot. This setup should run ambient temperature. If you want to save this coil you can carefully solder wire to the ends (make sure you insulate well) and keep winding. You have probably 35 - 40 feet on your spool right now.


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[eastcoasttinker]

Blackchisel97 is right. Low impedance. Question? How have you mounted the wheel? Ball barings or rod through wood or something like that. Does it spin several times before stopping? This could also play into the problem. Have a vcr recording head that got some glue in the shaft. It still spins, but not well enough for the ssg. Got to replace it. Hope this helps.

[nafanja]

The problemes with a charge

Hello everyone.

I try to charge the 7 aH battery and other and I can't charge more than 11.x Volts.
I try to charge the 8 mkF caps and the Voltage is go high quickly/

What is the power need for charge the 55-65 lead acid bateries?
If it's a cap pulser - what is the data need for it or how mant transistors need for charge big bateries?

I am use the solid bolt and think about some magnet material like transformer steel. But now I can't understand why O can't charge bog nateries, 7 aH (gell)
too/

[blackchisel97]

Hello everyone.

I try to charge the 7 aH battery and other and I can't charge more than 11.x Volts.
I try to charge the 8 mkF caps and the Voltage is go high quickly/

What is the power need for charge the 55-65 lead acid bateries?
If it's a cap pulser - what is the data need for it or how mant transistors need for charge big bateries?

I am use the solid bolt and think about some magnet material like transformer steel. But now I can't understand why O can't charge bog nateries, 7 aH (gell)
too/

nafanja The reason behind the battery not charging higher maybe one of cells being shorted. (assuming that your circuit is tuned and works good) If you have a A meter on input it will show higher draw than normal, transistor may be getting warmer then usual. If your battery has removable caps you can take them off (careful with acid. I always keep towel nearby soaked in soapy water) Connect one probe of a voltmeter to one terminal and use other probe, extended with piece of wire to touch plates in each cell. Each cell should read about 2V so moving along will result in voltage reading in such increments - 2 - 4 - 6 - 8 - 10 and 12V at the second terminal. If you see the increment of 1V or less on one cell then you know this one is short. Other way is to get electrolyte density meter and check fluid density in each cell. They're available in automotive stores and cost around $10.
To charge 50 -60Ah batteries in reasonable time you need more than one power winding on rotary setup or solid state trifilar with at least AWG#23 wire. I had rotor version built on BMX plastic wheel, 7 firing transistors (8 filar coil, 150' of AWG#24) and it was capable of restoring/charging such batteries without cap pulser.
All you need is a good, balanced and stable rotor, multifilar coil or self oscillating (solid state) with decent size wire.
Core material is important as it cannot retain magnetism. Brazing welding rods, lengths of coat hanger, transformer core, ferrite, magnetite, whatever you have available. Check with magnet if not sure and see if will attract small metal object (needle, pin) after removing magnet.


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[nafanja]

Thank's

You talk about the ferrite.
But i have a questions about.
As I am understand, the ferrite is usable for quick speed rotor, isn't it?

I have ability to have the ferrite and transformer steel. but what is the best for a no high speed.
As I am understand, the ferrite is use for high frequency but steel is use in the motors.
What is the best.

And tell me please is it a true that one battery makes charge 2 or 4 batteries?

[blackchisel97]

You talk about the ferrite.
But i have a questions about.
As I am understand, the ferrite is usable for quick speed rotor, isn't it?

I have ability to have the ferrite and transformer steel. but what is the best for a no high speed.
As I am understand, the ferrite is use for high frequency but steel is use in the motors.
What is the best.

And tell me please is it a true that one battery makes charge 2 or 4 batteries?

What we expect from the core is to become magnetic and demagnetize very quickly without any delay. The collapse of magnetic field is what causes the spike which we're after. Any delay will decrease this effect. While laminated iron core, such as thin welding rods works good there are other alternatives such as ferrite, mumetal or "black sand" cast in resin.
Main point is for the core to be non magnetic material. Ferrite and magnetite will work better in higher frequencies compared to iron and run cold. Don't confuse steel with iron. You can use "I" part of laminated transformer core.
I tried them before. I want to try magnetite to compare.

Since this circuit is feeding hv pulses to the output battery not a steady DC current it doesn't care how many batteries are connected in parallel to the output. You can have a bank of many batteries hooked up together.
Also, after being charged with this technology batteries exhibit ability to become "charged" in much shorter time. You will not see this with off the shelf new battery or sulfated old one but after they've been programmed to receive such charge. I was able to fully charge couple paralleled batteries from one and he wasn't discharged so I had a net gain of one extra battery being charged for "free".


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[nafanja]

THank you

Can you tell me what the batteries (A/h) was charge the batteries ( summ of A/h) it's very interesting. I believe that it's may be, but now I try to understand the problems.

I have thinking that I have 0.24 mm (diameter) cooper ware. This ware have a 25 Ohm resistance with 950 turn. That mean 25 Ohm *0.1 A=2.5 - 3 Volta loss.

Now I have 0.7 mm diameter cooper ware and try to rewound the core.

I have the experiment, I was put the bolt ( the same like the bolt core) near the magnets and the system stay stopped. After I was put the couple of ferrite near the magnets the system is run with a very-very little stopping and stay good run. I think the bolt is can't to re-magnetizing fast. And may be it's why my system can't charge the batteries.

May be the ferrite not stopping that may to re-magnetizing quickly?

Tell me please how many time is need for programing the batteries?
How many cycle's need for programming for fast charge?

What is the best batteries (gell sell or lead acid)?

[nafanja]

Cicles of reforming

I have a question.

I have a lead acid battery. I was get this battery for experiments from one person and the condition of the battery was be bad and this man tell about destroy one bank. It's sounds like the battery is totally dead.

This battery was be loaded by 40W 12 V lamp(bulb) and the charge from 12.5 Volt go down to 9 V. The the load was work all night and to the morning it show near3 - 4 Volts.

After that I was work with this battery with SSG and cap pulser. This cap pulser near 3000 mF get 16-19 Volts with 3 pulses per second. The battery was charge to 14 - 15 Volts very easy. But The load is back the charge very easy too. The load is 3W lamp 12V (bulb). But it's near half or one hour. It's a very strange.

The charge and discharge was be near two cicles.

After that I was connect the battery to classic charger - trafo-diodes-batery.
The connection is show me 12.4V and 3 Amp of charge. One people tell me that battery is good condition and "the process like your battery 1.5 - 2 year old". (but befor the consultant from chop where auto parts is suggest forget this battery).

If the charge to next morning will show the good conditions that mean that the battery stay live.

But why the charge was be so quick and discharge too?

May be I mast make many cycles with the charge - discharge for reforming battery? How many cycles I must do for get Bedini condition?

[nafanja]

The bicicle wheel

Tell me plaese, may I have the problemes if my wheel is magnetizing?

I was see the Bedini diagrams where was write about non-magnetizing matherial of a rotor. My rotor is magnetizing.

I have a stragne kind of a probleme - I was connect two coils (5 and 6 transistors) via the third (output) coils and rectifier bridge and the wheel is astrt stop when the coils is ON. One coil run more fast.

As I see at Bedini coment in ENERGY of the VACUUM, where Bedini was show the South scalar pol, my coompass is show me the South at the center (between the magnets). May i have the problemes with this wheel?

[mbrownn]

Tell me plaese, may I have the problemes if my wheel is magnetizing?

I was see the Bedini diagrams where was write about non-magnetizing matherial of a rotor. My rotor is magnetizing.

I have a stragne kind of a probleme - I was connect two coils (5 and 6 transistors) via the third (output) coils and rectifier bridge and the wheel is astrt stop when the coils is ON. One coil run more fast.

Maybe your coils have started to resonate, do they make a sound?

if they are resonating then your motor will stop as it can't match the speed of the coils.

As I see at Bedini coment in ENERGY of the VACUUM, where Bedini was show the South scalar pol, my coompass is show me the South at the center (between the magnets). May i have the problemes with this wheel?

What is the wheel made of?

The south poles may be scalar souths just as JB says, if this is the case the wheel should be fine.

[nafanja]

Time for charge

Tell me plaese

1) How many time I will need for first charge 60 A/h batery?

2) How many cicles will need for new batery?

3) What is the discharge I will need (Voltage down) for batery training/reforming?

I was whatch the film where Bedini to discharge the battery down to near 3 Volts. Do I need to do so? Or the Lead acid battery (auto starter batery) must discharge just to 12-11 Volts and this is enogh?

How I must tune the base resistor? I must find the highest RPM?

[dR-Green]

Tell me plaese

1) How many time I will need for first charge 60 A/h batery?

2) How many cicles will need for new batery?

3) What is the discharge I will need (Voltage down) for batery training/reforming?

I was whatch the film where Bedini to discharge the battery down to near 3 Volts. Do I need to do so? Or the Lead acid battery (auto starter batery) must discharge just to 12-11 Volts and this is enogh?

How I must tune the base resistor? I must find the highest RPM?

1: Days on a tri-filar/two transistor circuit

2: 10-20 at least

3: Divide the Ah capacity of the battery by 20 (hours) to get the C20 rate. The number you end up with is the maximum load you should put on the battery. For example 60Ah divided by 20 = 3A load. Different people say different things, so 12.0-12.40v is the lowest range I've seen people recommend you should discharge the battery. 12.0v might be a bit too low.

In the film John Bedini is only discharging to such a low level as a part of the demonstration, like he says it will damage the battery

[dR-Green]

I have a question.

I have a lead acid battery. I was get this battery for experiments from one person and the condition of the battery was be bad and this man tell about destroy one bank. It's sounds like the battery is totally dead.

This battery was be loaded by 40W 12 V lamp(bulb) and the charge from 12.5 Volt go down to 9 V. The the load was work all night and to the morning it show near3 - 4 Volts.

After that I was work with this battery with SSG and cap pulser. This cap pulser near 3000 mF get 16-19 Volts with 3 pulses per second. The battery was charge to 14 - 15 Volts very easy. But The load is back the charge very easy too. The load is 3W lamp 12V (bulb). But it's near half or one hour. It's a very strange.

Try charging the battery through a diode or rectifier instead of the cap pulser.

[blackchisel97]

12V battery rates of discharge

1: Days on a tri-filar/two transistor circuit

2: 10-20 at least

3: Divide the Ah capacity of the battery by 20 (hours) to get the C20 rate. The number you end up with is the maximum load you should put on the battery. For example 60Ah divided by 20 = 3A load. Different people say different things, so 12.0-12.40v is the lowest range I've seen people recommend you should discharge the battery. 12.0v might be a bit too low.

In the film John Bedini is only discharging to such a low level as a part of the demonstration, like he says it will damage the battery

Standard lead acid (flooded) should not be discharged under 12.5 -12.55V resting voltage. You may take it down to even 12.35V but as long as it will "bounce back" and settle at above levels it is ok.
Gel cells should not be discharged under 12.6 resting voltage.
Above values represent 80% of charge. Resting voltage means no charging and nothing drawing from it.
It may take 1/2 for battery to settle (ions stop migrating). Each cycling (charging/discharging) should be followed by such period.
Deep cycle batteries can be discharge lower than above values. However, you should treat remaining 20% as not existent. This is approx at 12.10 - 12.15V.


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[nafanja]

Thank you



But tell me plaese, as I am watch at the video, John Bedini was discharge the battery down to 3 Volts. As far as i am understand - it's for kill positive energy for reforming and charge by negative/radiant energy...

Now i have a new battery and look that thay starter auto batery have 12.6 Volts. The 4 transistor siystem is start cxharge very find.
But After the discharge by lamp/buld 3 A the charge stay more harder/need more time, but discharge quckly . May be I need to discharge to 3 Volta lead-acid starter batery?

What I need for battery reforming/forming?