Bedini Solid State Oscillators

[blackchisel97]

@nvisser

It is a small 600 VA ups. Output 220V @2.6 A =572W.
It only takes a 7Ah battery and is probably only to protect your pc against power dips or give it time to automatic shut down.
Unfortunately to supply 572W on the output it has to draw a lot of current from the battery. - yes, that's exactly this poor battery role and slow death - her destination.
Another thing I saw was in the Hector Perez rotoverter teachings where they said that a lead acid battery should not be charged more than 12.7 V.

IMO, lead acid battery should be charged to 2.40V per cell which will result in 2.25V resting and should never be discharged below 2.09V per cell. This is based on 6 cell battery. Battery manufacturers should supply data charts with recommended charging/discharging details. During charge and discharge process battery should remain cool (ambient).

Cheers

V

[blackchisel97]

Hi SkyWatcher Don't rush with conventional charger. Try to format (condition) battry with radiant some more. See if charging time is decreasing each time and resting V, without load. You may have interesting observations.

Cheers

V

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi blackchisel, thanks for info. yes the normal charger isn't charging the battery much anyway, its peaking after only 5 or 10 minutes so yes more conditioning needed. I wasn't timing the charge time with using the pulser, I was only timing the discharge, so I will take note of the charge time also now. Thanks.
peace love light
Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

update on 6V-4.5AH SLA rejuvenation

Hi folks, the results are getting better and better. After the second conditioning cycle so far, I am now able to run the same bulb load as before but this time the battery powered the load for 3 hours where as the after the first cycle it only powered it for 1 hour, 10 minutes. Though with the almost 2 watt load of the small bulb the battery should last about 15 hours, so it's coming along.
peace love light
Tyson

[nvisser]

Charging with pulses and relatively small current allows the HV puls to penetrate non conductive sulfuric "coating". This coating cannot be "shaken off" or penetrated by conventional charger.
CheersV

THIS IS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR!!
ARE THIS PULSES THE RADIANT PULSES FROM THE BEMF OR PULSES FROM A CAP THAT IS CHARGED WITH THE RADIANT AND DISCHARGED WITH INTERVALS AT A CERTAIN VOLTAGE?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi nvisser, it almost seems like your not reading my posts. I am telling you what works and it's the flyback or also called collapsing field from a coil using a single diode to capture the collapsing field flyback. Though maybe a cap at a higher voltage lower value might work, however this joule thief charger ,which is basically the same as most Bedini circuits, is working very well. If thats not clear let me know.
peace love light
Tyson

[blackchisel97]

My understanding of this:

THIS IS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR!!
ARE THIS PULSES THE RADIANT PULSES FROM THE BEMF OR PULSES FROM A CAP THAT IS CHARGED WITH THE RADIANT AND DISCHARGED WITH INTERVALS AT A CERTAIN VOLTAGE?

Where cap is converting into positive charge, therefore allowing to swap primary with charging. We want to utilize the pulse from sharply collapsing field.

V

[blackchisel97]

Hi SkyWatcher, I'm happy you have a positive results!

Vheers

V

[SkyWatcher]

Update on battery revival

Hi folks, thanks for words blackchisel. For anyone that may be interested, I am now getting 5 hours and 30 minutes on only the 3rd charge/discharge condition cycle from this 6V-4.5AH SLA using the same load. That is about 35% of the rated capacity of this battery, so its coming along well. It's looking like maybe around 10 cycles may bring this battery to full capacity based on the results of the 3 cycles so far, we will see.
peace love light
Tyson

[blackchisel97]

Sla

Way to go SkyWatcher!

I found SLA really not dependable to do any tests. Unfortunately, they represent 95% of my batt. testing inventory at the moment. I'm hoping to get a few Surette's from Solar/Wind company. They would be my prime choice for powering home grid. With manuf. warranty from 84 -100 months and careful treatment they could last very long time. I need to get good rotor and replace my other pulser/charger's wheel. I have couple mechanical setups running continuously (since March) in my bedroom - I feel energized all the time This time I will go with superpoles.

Cheers
Vtech

[nvisser]

I noticed that Skywatcher has got another interesting thread on battery recovery
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...pe-method.html

[sucahyo]

my test video

Just want to share the video I made to convice some people about the difference of Bedini radiant vs HV pulsed circuit.

170 seconds charge at 2.65V made motor run 30 seconds. Should have increase the transistor base resistor value but I find it easier to use HHO cells as current limiter,
YouTube - Low voltage charging with radiant charger

Showing 19V initial voltage that climbing down:
YouTube - Behaviour of radiant charger charging 12V SLA

[blackchisel97]

Solid State Bedini + Rodin's Coil

Hi Everyone,
During my experiments with different Rodin's coils I decided to give a try with my Solid State Charger. I used 2x18 AWG#26 toroid. I connected one coil in series with positive of charging battery and noticed voltage climbed 0.3V instantly. Then, I connected second coil in series with negative and voltage went up another 0.3V within seconds. Just wondering if I'm matching impedance of battery or there is something else going on. Any suggestions? Actually I found partial answer today; my DMM was connected before Rodin's Coil, not at the battery terminals. I apologize for confusion.


Cheers

Vtech

[shubhamforme]

best and simple solid state radiant charger

Bedini Solid State Oscillators discussion. Basically any Bedini circuit that doesn't use a rotor as a trigger. Self-triggering using any variation of the schematics.

this is one of the very best and simple yet very effective and cheap solid state self triggring radiant oscillator or charger...
please give me your feed feed back and views...
i had recently desulphated 3 of my 5 years old 12v 80amp lead acid car battery...now they hold a charger quite properly....
and i had simply use a 1amp 9v pus or power supply for input...
heres the link to circuit.....
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thanks
shubh!!!!

[pvar06]

Hi All,

Further to my post 277 on page 10 my progress is as below.

So far I have made up around 5-6 circuits and in most of the circuit I have got input / output power ratio between 1 to 4. I had a doubt on the spurious component so recently I ordered components from mouser.com but on making the circuit using those component i received the following results.

1. Input - 12 volts with 0.23 Amps i.e. 2.76 Watts
2. Output - 170-180 volts with 0.03 Amps i.e. 5.1 Watts

In my circuit i have used 3 nos 10 mfd 440 volts motor starter capacitors. The winding is done on 1/2 inch pvc pipe around 3.5-4 inch long. The iron core is being made using welding electrodes.

Earlier i had one BD243C, which has drawn around 1 amps at input side with 12 volts. But at the output side the voltage dropped to 70 volts and 0.2 amps. so again the input power is 12 watts and output power is 14 watts.

Capcitors are making good noise and I can hear the charging and discharging of the capacitor. The megnatic field generated on the coil is good, as i have checked it using neo magnet.

I dont know where i am missing in the whole concept. I request the members to let me know following

1. What should be ideal input and output power ration for Bedini SS....

2. Is there any issue in the coil winding....

3. What is the voltage and current observed by other members on input and output side of the circuit....

Regards

Praveen