Bedini Solid State Oscillators

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, just want to let you folks know how well the charging tests of these primary cells are doing, duracell copper tops alkaline C cells. They remain stone cold when charging and using my led flashlight to discharge them I'm getting the same capacity one would expect from freshly store bought ones. My flashlight discharges at C/10 rate and flashlight lasted 8 hours with about 7 hours at near to full brightness. I remember in Joseph Newman's manual how he described these non rechargeable cells to be more ideal for this type of charging. Maybe that's why they put such fear in us of recharging them.
peace love light
Tyson

[sucahyo]

Congratulation for charging success Tyson . I think the key is just what Vtech mention, the right waveform .

After reading two people on different forum mention that their radiant capacitor has become an electret (self charging) I decide to try it with battery since my capacitor also become an electret too although at much lower voltage (10V). If the requirement of capacitor to become an electret is by utilizing them in capacitor dumping circuit then I should try battery act as capacitor.

Currently charging the battery in best cooling mode and 0.5 second discharging on every 30 seconds by switching the negative to 24V motorcycle rear lamp. The charging is faster now, I may change it to be equal where charging time make the same voltage differencial as discharging time.

[blackchisel97]

Hi folks.

Thanks for sharing good news Tyson Yesterday I got a brilliant idea - actually I'm making fun of myself- to do tuning, using decent battery instead of a dead one. Quite a difference! I used two 2MF 400V DC caps in parallel. I can hear them singing or chirping depending of frequency. I checked the wave over the cap. "Cleaner" sound means nicer wave and better charging. I tried with 25 - 22.5 -20 -17.6 - 15V on the cap. Best charging rate I've got was near 17V with clean wave, single pulses without a "ghosts". Battery is the same hd 1000CCA as the sulfated one which I've been testing previously. I put back diode parallel with duty cycle pot. I found tuning being easier this way. I also added 100uF cap between 4&8 and ground of 555. I think that stabilizing 10nF cap from 5 to ground will prevent from false triggering. Leg 5 of 555 is a comparator input. It's easier to tune with 100k pot being 10 turn rheostat. Base resistance has to be adjustable (for tuning) and no less than 2k.


Vtech

[blackchisel97]

Scope across charging battery






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[BobBrown]

H11d4

Hello !

Hope you can help. Enybody know the switching speed, of the H11D4 ?
Is it as fast as the 555 timer ( 100ns ) ? Can it stand a frequency of say 68K hz ?

Just wondering how far I can push this unit. And the Data sheets I've read do not seem to indicate eny switching speeds.

Thankyou
Andrew T
PATHS ~ Mind Energetics

[blackchisel97]

Optocoupler speed

Hi Andrew,

I'm pretty sure H11 opto can handle such speed.


Vtech

[sucahyo]

I can hear them singing or chirping depending of frequency. I checked the wave over the cap. "Cleaner" sound means nicer wave and better charging.

Thanks for this. This confirm that transformer sound can be used to tune without the scope, very useful for me .

Hope you can help. Enybody know the switching speed, of the H11D4 ?
Is it as fast as the 555 timer ( 100ns ) ? Can it stand a frequency of say 68K hz ?

I got Fairchild spec that mention 5000 nano seconds. Since 68KHz need 14000 nano seconds. It work. But the signal is less sharp than 555. Different sharpness will have different result.

[blackchisel97]

Visual Analyzer

Hi sucahyo.

Before I got my scope I was using Visual Analyzer software. My version is 10.0.5 and I was able to see something rather than guessing. Software has 2 channel scope, frequency meter and DMM, also signal function generator, which can be combined with car amplifier. Visual Analyser details I made simple probe with 10M resistor in series to protect my PC.


Vtech

[sucahyo]

Thanks I will look into Visual Analyser.

[sucahyo]

Just done reading this:
http://freenrg.info/Bedini/SSG_STARTERS_GUIDE-Two.pdf

It is interesting it mentioned that 12V 7Ah need to be charged at 280mA while nicad mentioned by Bedini at 300mAh. I guess same circuit do not need to be modified at all for charging both type of battery. And the charging rate should be counted from 1 cell from whatever number of cell or battery in series.

[citfta]

Starters Guide

Thanks Sucahyo, that is great document!! I have been studying Bedini for over a year now and have built several variations of his radiant chargers. I have reconditioned a lot of batteries also using his technology. But I have never seen that document before. Where did you find it and are there any more? Thanks, citfta

P.S. I just looked at the site address. Duh!! I'm still asleep I guess.

[sucahyo]

I have document for a while after downloading panacea document, I regret I don't read it right away, it would save me from doing a lot of thinkering...

The part one link:
http://freenrg.info/Bedini/SSG_STARTERS_GUIDE-One.pdf

BTW, here is video showing me recent test with core type:
YouTube - Coil core voltage measurement

Showing that air core give the best radiant output voltage. A little bit of iron reduce the voltage significantly, just as small ferrite. But iron and ferrite give more induction to surrounding. Without core the secondary receive less induction.

I think air core is the choice if we utilize only the primary. If we must use core because we utilize the secondary, ferrite is better choice than iron.

[sucahyo]

Different result with load

I found out that with load, having core is actually better. It charge the capacitor faster.

YouTube - Loaded coil core voltage measurement, revised conclusion

Oops, I forgot that faster charging may not be better.....

[theremart]

RE: starters guide.

I have document for a while after downloading panacea document, I regret I don't read it right away, it would save me from doing a lot of thinkering...

The part one link:
http://freenrg.info/Bedini/SSG_STARTERS_GUIDE-One.pdf

BTW, here is video showing me recent test with core type:
YouTube - Coil core voltage measurement

Showing that air core give the best radiant output voltage. A little bit of iron reduce the voltage significantly, just as small ferrite. But iron and ferrite give more induction to surrounding. Without core the secondary receive less induction.

I think air core is the choice if we utilize only the primary. If we must use core because we utilize the secondary, ferrite is better choice than iron.

Be sure to google for part 2 of the guide. It has even more info.

The guide came from the old yahoo SG group now defunct. John posted much info on that group before he left it to goto the other groups.

Cheers

[sucahyo]

Be sure to google for part 2 of the guide. It has even more info.

Yes, I post the second part first. There is also other good Bedini material at panaceauniversity like:
JohnBedini_SG_posts.pdf
Bedini-interview-06-Apr-2008.pdf

siteanaceauniversity.org filetypedf bedini - Google



BTW, I implemented magnet to make the coil core neutral magnetic zone, and it seems to increase the capacitor self charging property. Currently experimenting on battery. Based from:

What we actually want to do, Dr. Bob, is make that magnet become nonlinear. So we pulse the coil to make it nonlinear. What we’re actually doing is opening a window in the magnet which is termed the “Bloch Wall.” The Bloch Wall is the space where the two poles come together in the center of the magnet. That’s where the energy comes from, from this zero field that’s in the center of the magnet, where the two poles – top and bottom – are in balance.

Anyone has picture of core coil in between two magnetic pole, I remember seeing it in this forum? Maybe MEG?