Bedini Solid State Oscillators

[kcarring]

Aluminum Magnet Wire Air Core Experiment

Just an update, first trial run on the 4T SS SSG, with a 5 filar Aluminum Magnet Wire coil, no core. In this build i added a "coil sniffer" wind to the standard Air Core transformer. It was wound on with 30 AWG, 21-22 turns, then taped, and the letz'd 5 filar on top. Worked out pretty close to plan (hopes). The filar ended up being about 148 turns, the wires were 100' in length, equal trigger gauge. Thanks for the help, 49'er, Blackchisel and all, all of your tips helped a lot, she fired up first try, this time.

No big conlcusions on the aluminum wire, other than it works, it was cheap, and the savings more than paid for all of the other components of the build. As 49'er had pointed out (but unfortunately I had bought it already... might have been better to buy a bigger gauge, slightly.. say 16 or 14 AWG, to negate higher resistance factors). It's all an experiment!

SSG Aluminum Air Core Experiment PT. 3 - YouTube

[minoly]

Just an update, first trial run on the 4T SS SSG, with a 5 filar Aluminum Magnet Wire coil, no core. In this build i added a "coil sniffer" wind to the standard Air Core transformer. It was wound on with 30 AWG, 21-22 turns, then taped, and the letz'd 5 filar on top. Worked out pretty close to plan (hopes). The filar ended up being about 148 turns, the wires were 100' in length, equal trigger gauge. Thanks for the help, 49'er, Blackchisel and all, all of your tips helped a lot, she fired up first try, this time.

No big conlcusions on the aluminum wire, other than it works, it was cheap, and the savings more than paid for all of the other components of the build. As 49'er had pointed out (but unfortunately I had bought it already... might have been better to buy a bigger gauge, slightly.. say 16 or 14 AWG, to negate higher resistance factors). It's all an experiment!

SSG Aluminum Air Core Experiment PT. 3 - YouTube

IMHO the higher resistance w/o a core is preferable - this is what I find most interesting about your build
I think your charger will outdo mine.
put a large FLAB bank on the charging side.
were did you get your wire?
Thanks,
Patrick

[ZeropointEnergy]

Mods

Kyle,
You’re doing really well so far. I’m very interested in your results with the aluminum.
The diode – you’re not the first to wonder why I like the diode. Others have flat out said it does nothing for them and they remove it. Here is a small thing you can do with it that should shed a tiny bit of light:

SS SSG multiple spke per on time.divx - YouTube

you have to get through the sniffer coil stuff.
Is your coil charging up to its fullest potential?
Do your transistors have enough “ON” time?
You can adjust the “ON” time by adjusting the cap size across your pot. You’re asking the right questions… keep on keeping on :-)

Patrick

Hey Patrick,

I have a 5k 50W rheostat on order since the 5W potentiometer does heat up when I'm pushing double that through it
I have played around with a few different variables of resistance and capacitance to the base of the transistor to control on/off time, more experimentation is needed. (I'm using leads to clip on the mods to the trigger circuit in parallel)

I had not used a trigger as large as 18 gauge but will order a large roll to give a new 7 transistor SS SSG circuit a 100% effort, with the CPD mod and 2W or larger resistors. My aim is simple, eliminate all heat while fully saturating the coil.
In the past 2 SS SSG circuit I have heat in the coil or pot that needs to be rectified, larger gauge output leads has eliminated most of the issue in the smaller builds, pushing 1-2A @ 12-24V is going to a new senario.

Then can build a voltage regulator circuit/cap bank combo to hook up to a solar panel in place of the primary. Thus far, battery to battery is more efficient

Regards
Zero

[totoalas]

LAN Cable SS SSG - No resonance 240312

Hi to all

Using a 4 pair LAN cable, no resonance on my crt toroid either its loose or the wires too thin input 12 . 30 output 12.04 even I increase the current fromm 200 to 2 Amps.... need to go back to magnet wire

From another area I was able to raise the voltage from a converted ALUMINUM battery 70 AH from 12.20 standing voltage now is 13.4 v dc with aluminum electrolyte

Win some loose some

totoalas

[totoalas]

How is the schematic exactly cause I cannot understand what you guys did here?
Did you charge a cap from an SS and then running the SS with the cap?
Thanks

tHi
the schematic is from the joule ringer Yes when I switched off the load the the voltage rise in the battery

[minoly]

Hi Patrick,
I think that what you show with multiple spikes then a rest period, repeated over and over like you show is a very efficient way to charge a battery. The way you do it is way slicker than how I have been doing it. I've been using a seperate timer circuit to gate it on and off, I'll have to try your setup. Have you put a scope on JB's "10 Amp 12V Battery Charger (AC Power Input)" ? (+_+)

Mike Klimesh

Hi Mike,
I came "this" close to purchasing that charger. then I started getting some fantastic results w/ my own chargers... I am curious though, I would love to see as much on the scope of that charger as you are willing to upload... :-)

[minoly]

Hey Patrick,

I have a 5k 50W rheostat on order since the 5W potentiometer does heat up when I'm pushing double that through it
I have played around with a few different variables of resistance and capacitance to the base of the transistor to control on/off time, more experimentation is needed. (I'm using leads to clip on the mods to the trigger circuit in parallel)

I had not used a trigger as large as 18 gauge but will order a large roll to give a new 7 transistor SS SSG circuit a 100% effort, with the CPD mod and 2W or larger resistors. My aim is simple, eliminate all heat while fully saturating the coil.
In the past 2 SS SSG circuit I have heat in the coil or pot that needs to be rectified, larger gauge output leads has eliminated most of the issue in the smaller builds, pushing 1-2A @ 12-24V is going to a new senario.

Then can build a voltage regulator circuit/cap bank combo to hook up to a solar panel in place of the primary. Thus far, battery to battery is more efficient

Regards
Zero

hey there Zero :-)
I had some heat on my primary transistor and my pot with my 18 gauge 100' coil build, I added another 100' - no more heat. I'm still trying to find the balance, it's coming more clear each day.

Guy's there is a spot where your coil and cap want to resonate naturally.
if you remove the diode and get your pot close to the natural resonance, then remove the pot (no resistance parallel to cap) your cap and coil will resonate.
this is not necessarily the ideal spot, you still have to have the right cap prior to the trigger ie the best "ON" time for your battery bank. once you get in this zone, however, put the diode back, drop the freq a bit and you're there.

Patrick

can anyone tell me where to get some of that enamel coated aluminum wire?

[blackchisel97]

hey there Zero :-)
I had some heat on my primary transistor and my pot with my 18 gauge 100' coil build, I added another 100' - no more heat. I'm still trying to find the balance, it's coming more clear each day.

Guy's there is a spot where your coil and cap want to resonate naturally.
if you remove the diode and get your pot close to the natural resonance, then remove the pot (no resistance parallel to cap) your cap and coil will resonate.
this is not necessarily the ideal spot, you still have to have the right cap prior to the trigger ie the best "ON" time for your battery bank. once you get in this zone, however, put the diode back, drop the freq a bit and you're there.

Patrick

can anyone tell me where to get some of that enamel coated aluminum wire?

Patrick, this is Canadian seller, also has smaller quantities - 100, 200ft - 18 AWG Magnet Wire (Enameled Insulated Wire) 4.5 lb (2 kg), 1 mm diam, 3000 ft | eBay

Vtech

[kcarring]

Patrick, this is Canadian seller, also has smaller quantities - 100, 200ft - 18 AWG Magnet Wire (Enameled Insulated Wire) 4.5 lb (2 kg), 1 mm diam, 3000 ft | eBay

Vtech

This is the same aluminum wire as I used, same vendor. He also says 7500+ ft. or so for around $100 delivered. one thing that is nice about the aluminum is, when you letz it, it's stronger than you'd think. I imagined it snapping during the process, being AL and not CU. But it did letz pretty tight actually, and no breaks.

My roll was a bit short and he was very apologetic and said he would more than double make up for it next order, so I figured that was good enough.

One thing I learned though, if you want to use smaller spools like I did, you need to know how much is going to fit, and I would never order "1000 ft. for 10 * 100 ft. winds" again, in other words, I was 50 ft short, and the entire screw up forced me to go from 9 transistors to 4, because I thought I'd have 5 filar on coil, and another 5 filar on another... no such luck, ended up with 5 on one, and 4 on the other, (which changed the LETz'd gauage number of turns, impedence, inductance... everything...)so I just built a 5 filar 4T instead.

Moral of the story; buy at least an additional 100 ft or so when doing large builds. And try to have some kind of idea how much is going to fit on your spool before you wind it.

Live and Learn

[blackchisel97]

This is the same aluminum wire as I used, same vendor. He also says 7500+ ft. or so for around $100 delivered. one thing that is nice about the aluminum is, when you letz it, it's stronger than you'd think. I imagined it snapping during the process, being AL and not CU. But it did letz pretty tight actually, and no breaks.

My roll was a bit short and he was very apologetic and said he would more than double make up for it next order, so I figured that was good enough.

One thing I learned though, if you want to use smaller spools like I did, you need to know how much is going to fit, and I would never order "1000 ft. for 10 * 100 ft. winds" again, in other words, I was 50 ft short, and the entire screw up forced me to go from 9 transistors to 4, because I thought I'd have 5 filar on coil, and another 5 filar on another... no such luck, ended up with 5 on one, and 4 on the other, (which changed the LETz'd gauage number of turns, impedence, inductance... everything...)so I just built a 5 filar 4T instead.

Moral of the story; buy at least an additional 100 ft or so when doing large builds. And try to have some kind of idea how much is going to fit on your spool before you wind it.

Live and Learn

You got me thinking... I have unfinished 6 coiler with 6" rotor mainly because the cost of copper. I was planning to have 6 + 1 strands of AWG 18 on each. That's over 4,000' of copper.
Maybe I'll get just enough to make one coil and compare with the one I already have

Thanks
Vtech

[kcarring]

I think it's worth a try. I'm glad I did. Haven't really built enough copper oscillators to truly know / compare. I'll have a look at the sniffer coil and C/E on the AC side tonight and make a short vid, have a look at the spike. Seems to charge good though, runs cool. i used all mechanical connections so I can't really tell you how it solders up.

[kcarring]

Aluminum Air Core SS (MSG) Tesla Switch Oscillator 3T

I finally got my head wrapped around the Tesla Switch variant by (Ossie Callanan is it?). Very nice mod to SS SSG. Can't see going back after this initial test.

SSG TS (SS MSG 3T) Aluminum Air Core Experiment Pt. 5 - YouTube

[totoalas]

Ritalie Hv Hho / Radiant Charger

hI TO ALL

Just want to know if someone had tried this circuit with off the shelf components

thanks

totoalas

[blackchisel97]

I think it's worth a try. I'm glad I did. Haven't really built enough copper oscillators to truly know / compare. I'll have a look at the sniffer coil and C/E on the AC side tonight and make a short vid, have a look at the spike. Seems to charge good though, runs cool. i used all mechanical connections so I can't really tell you how it solders up.

It will not solder. No matter how well you clean aluminum it will attract an oxygen and form thin layer of oxide on the surface. It can be welded but in argon shield.
The only way is to connect in screw terminals.

Thanks for sharing vid

Vtech

[kcarring]

@blackchisel

Thank you, too, for all the assistance you have offered in the last couple of months, most helpful!