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  • Sg Osc to cap dump

    Hello everyone

    Here is a video of me using the Sg Oscillators for your review.


    http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEl9R6W0rbI

    Notice my progress on the big bank of caps rated at 250vdc that is my new discharge circuit pulsing at 90vdc at 20amps or better if I add.

    Mike

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    • Originally posted by kcarring View Post
      @John_K

      John,

      Regarding your advice, I haven't change resistors yet, but, lack had it that I found a free 30A Schumaker Charger, that was blown, so I gutted it, and in doing so "beefed" up a lot of the connections, as you advised.

      Have a peek if you have a moment and feel free to comment, or set me straight... my comments are only my opinions, naturally I may be totally wrong on some stuff!

      Boxed! TSO SS SSG 4T Aluminum Air Core Solar Desulphator - YouTube
      Hey Kyle, sorry for the delayed response. I don't get on this forum much these days. Anyway, that's looking pretty good. Have you got it running yet?

      John K.
      http://teslagenx.com

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      • BroMikey's Beast Oscillator

        Beast Oscillator

        SG Osc Solid State John Bedini SSSG oscillator build

        Mike
        Last edited by BroMikey; 06-08-2014, 11:13 PM.

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        • Mike
          Are you not on energy science any more.
          I was looking for a link you had posted and it appears, your post are gone or I am not doing something right

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          • Nice to see you found this forum mike, bromikey's beast charger rises from the ashes. Aln

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            • BroMikey's Web Page construction

              Hello Sawt2 and ALMAN

              Here is my new place to put my science work on. My own website
              BroMikey's Science Projects

              Some folks lose their work and this is why they use image shack and tiny Url to share with the people on the internet.

              I spent 1 year typing in documents on a site and it is very hard to reorganize it somewhere else and still keep my day job.

              I am a serious minded experimenter who likes to share for free how things work and money is not my goal.

              That makes people mad who are trying to make lots of money off of what I show in a step by step process for free.

              I am aware that folks need to make a living so in order to protect my work when sharing on forums worldwide I have chosen to provide them with a free website that only I can delete.

              I want to give a special thanks to all of the people who are angry with my posts that kicked me off their website so I was forced to come to terms.

              I am not upset nor do I hold any ill feelings.

              Making money as an agenda is in direct conflict with pure experimentation.

              Who knows maybe I will be making the green backs someday on the web huh?

              BroMikey
              Last edited by BroMikey; 02-02-2014, 09:34 AM.

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              • Hi Bromikey
                Do you have some pictures of the waveforms(from dutycycle,cap,coil)
                How many batteries do you charge with one.
                Thanks

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                • Wave Shapes

                  Hi Forelle

                  Yes I am in the process of re-assembling all of my data, I have the shapes somewhere and they will be part of the new site.

                  With a single 4 channel SgOsc using 14awg wire I can dump to battery bank anywhere from 330ah @12vdc to 600ah @12vdc. I energize using 24vdc input @5 amps Max but normally only run at just under around 4Amps.

                  I am almost done with my 36vdc discharging unit so I can get more punch.

                  Right now as we speak I dump at 55vdc 2-3 times per second if I crank her up.

                  I will be updating my page BroMikey's Science Projects


                  BroMikey

                  Originally posted by forelle View Post
                  Hi Bromikey
                  Do you have some pictures of the waveforms(from dutycycle,cap,coil)
                  How many batteries do you charge with one.
                  Thanks

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                  • The "h" waveform is not unique, in fact it is a common result of an "Unclamped Inductive Test" for semiconductor switches.
                    When the switch is tuned off and the current interrupted the coil releases it's
                    inductive energy, as shown in the Data sheet of the IRFPG50 Mosfet.
                    See diagram attached. The circuit that produced the waveform is shown. A
                    basic low side switch.

                    The same wave form is inherent to switching a coil with a low side switch, same as in a boost converter.



                    Datasheet.
                    IRFPG50 pdf, IRFPG50 description, IRFPG50 datasheets, IRFPG50 view ::: ALLDATASHEET :::

                    Cheers
                    Attached Files

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                    • Project updated

                      BroMikey's Science Projects

                      a few more shots in beast osc and cap dump pictures so far

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                      • Luckliy I always print a copy of the things I come across that I want to replicate, as I have learned that many things get deleted from the net. You will keep on going. You cold look a little happier when someone snaps your picture Saw your new pics of the new and improved beast cap dump. If I remember right you had a transformer in the old schematic. Aln

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                        • Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                          Hi Forelle

                          Yes I am in the process of re-assembling all of my data, I have the shapes somewhere and they will be part of the new site.

                          With a single 4 channel SgOsc using 14awg wire I can dump to battery bank anywhere from 330ah @12vdc to 600ah @12vdc. I energize using 24vdc input @5 amps Max but normally only run at just under around 4Amps.

                          I am almost done with my 36vdc discharging unit so I can get more punch.

                          Right now as we speak I dump at 55vdc 2-3 times per second if I crank her up.

                          I will be updating my page BroMikey's Science Projects


                          BroMikey
                          It might be helpful to look at the power in and power out figures. Energy in v energy out.

                          If you use 24 volts at 5 amps that is 120 Watts input or 120 Joules per second input.
                          Then if you dump 55 volts from a 15000 uF capacitor 3 times a second then
                          that is 22.7 joules per discharge, so 22.7 x 3 = 68 joules per second output.

                          In that situation the efficiency is 57%.

                          Where is the heat/sound, vibration and EM radiation developed, there is the losses.

                          Cheers

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                          • Transformer

                            Originally posted by alman View Post
                            Luckliy I always print a copy of the things I come across that I want to replicate, as I have learned that many things get deleted from the net. You will keep on going. You cold look a little happier when someone snaps your picture Saw your new pics of the new and improved beast cap dump. If I remember right you had a transformer in the old
                            schematic. Aln
                            Hi Aln

                            Quite truth I look bad in that shot

                            The transformer can go between the cap dump and the sg osc. I have not uploaded that picture yet, however I have uploaded more so look when you get time.

                            I have been busy creating web pages and will have my text there some day.

                            The Sg Osc is a converter from steady state current to pulsing radiant forms.

                            Magnets passing between poles control the timing and duration of pulses that can be done other ways.

                            The most important thing about the Bedini energizer is that a battery can double it's capacity. In the the case of conventional dc current charging battery capacity is lower than factory specs weeks after new.

                            Moving ions makes batteries live forever and produce more power.

                            Mode 1 is voltage spike mode, mode two is G-Field current pulses that is another form of energy we are not accustom to.

                            The G-filed or genmode is the same hook up as a joule thief.

                            Go look at Joule-Mode.

                            In the early yahoo forums the Bedini monopole moderators forbid anyone hook up their SSG in Joule-Mode. The monopole was to only be connected one way.

                            12 years later John bedini is offering a DVD with great teaching facts showing the other way of using the Sg Oscillator.

                            Joule-Mode is the pulsating G-field MODE or G-Mode.

                            I can't make it any clearer. Look for muggzez picture.

                            Brother Michael Rowland
                            Attached Files

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                            • Good points Farmhand.

                              From what I understand, the energy manifest itself in the batteries. Looking at the energy here and there in the circuit from conventional analysis, the Bedini machine is nothing "special".... unless you add the possibly 23% mechanical gain in the wheel - but that obviously is missing in the solid state version.

                              By manifesting in the battery, you could for instance take one full battery and charge up 12 dead ones. This is where the energy gain is seen. At least that is how I understand it from John's site.

                              Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

                              Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                              It might be helpful to look at the power in and power out figures. Energy in v energy out.

                              If you use 24 volts at 5 amps that is 120 Watts input or 120 Joules per second input.
                              Then if you dump 55 volts from a 15000 uF capacitor 3 times a second then
                              that is 22.7 joules per discharge, so 22.7 x 3 = 68 joules per second output.

                              In that situation the efficiency is 57%.

                              Where is the heat/sound, vibration and EM radiation developed, there is the losses.

                              Cheers

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                              • Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                                It might be helpful to look at the power in and power out figures. Energy in v energy out.

                                If you use 24 volts at 5 amps that is 120 Watts input or 120 Joules per second input.
                                Then if you dump 55 volts from a 15000 uF capacitor 3 times a second then
                                that is 22.7 joules per discharge, so 22.7 x 3 = 68 joules per second output.

                                In that situation the efficiency is 57%.

                                Where is the heat/sound, vibration and EM radiation developed, there is the losses.

                                Cheers

                                No! No! Hi farmhand
                                Thx 4 the info and calculations except you forgot one very important thing that shows you are unaware of many aspects of Bedini systems.

                                I am not going to skip words and play any favorites for or against this system.

                                It works believe me it works and you forgot one very important thing.

                                You must be unaware of the ringing that the circuit creates and if you had done what I do you would know that the run battery does not discharge normally into all 12 of the other batteries.

                                Think about that annoying ringing sound coming from your circuit. (Hypothetically I will assume you have one?)

                                Conventional battery charges do not ring and so let's take a small charger boiling a battery for 10-20 hours at say 2-7 amps raw dc current.

                                Even taking a low amp figure say 3amps X 12vdc = 36watts the battery is about 3/4 charged when it stops. maybe 40 percent efficiency.

                                take the same battery at 1amp X 12vdc input for 12watts to do the same job only the battery just cold boils up to 16vdc.

                                Consider the idea and try it first.

                                Now back to the ringing, you forgot what the ringing in these systems do.

                                All Tesla did was setup circuits to recycle electricity.

                                Bedini systems do just that. The ringing in these systems can be shown on scope.

                                The run battery receives ringing oscillations at higher voltage levels than 12vdc and ringings all of the way back around to the energized battery and round again.

                                The run battery gets charged as it feeds the drive portion of this converter or energizer whatever you prefer.

                                No the Osc is not a 10X energy store house of free energy that can save the planet.

                                However I did think it would someday run itself.

                                The run battery lasts far longer and does not discharge on a normal curve like a resistive load does.

                                Build one today and set it up to run power out of batteries and you will never go back to the old way of charging.

                                The efficiencies or often very low around 100 percent for the serious experimenter.

                                The calculation for the entire system efficiency requires the strict evaluation of both run and charging batteries.

                                Most people are unable to figure this out. Not saying you are not smart enough.

                                We are missing another very important fact. These systems were originally setup to show some extra energy gains as compared to the block transformer style raw current charger.

                                No contest. I suggest everyone build something alone these lines first.

                                Even my joule thief setup to charge small batteries is far more efficient than our 150 year old conventional systems.

                                Don't forget that ringing and the way it circulates around and around the entire circuit during operation.

                                The system efficiencies can be much higher than 50 percent if the guidelines are followed.

                                Remember it is only a proof of the idea, not an endless well of limitless power that would take you off the grid for a few bucks.

                                BroMikey

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