Bedini motor high torque?

[Shamus]

Here's a picture of my four-pole monopole to illustrate the concept: The coils are positioned so that two coils are always firing in-between the travel of one magnet to the next, from the POV of a stator coil. In other words, with eight magnets around a rotor, you normally have 45 degrees of travel between magnets. But by putting a pair of coils (or a single coil for that matter) at 22.5 degrees, you double the kick that the rotor would normally get from a standard configuration. By extending this concept you can develop even more torque. You might want to draw your rotor/stator configuration with the magnets aligned with various coils to get an idea of exactly when things will be firing to know what to expect with that configuration.

Of course you can get good torque from a properly built window motor, but where's the challenge in that?

[Cyrus]

This is my setup.

The yellow circles, except the middle one, are the cores of the coils. Rotor has 6 magnets each and stator has 8 coils.
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And this image is the side view showing how the 2 rotors are connected to a shaft and between them are the coil spools on the stator.

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Then all goes in a pretty housing like so:

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[Shamus]

Interesting design; it should deliver some pretty good torque in this configuration. Interesting to note that while the wheel turns counterclockwise, the coil firing pattern will be clockwise. Let us know how it works out for you.

[Cyrus]

Has anyone tried connecting the radiant output to something that collects the energy fast like a capacitor and feeding back that energy into powering the power coil?

Any positive results?

[Cyrus]

I have ran a test to see what i could do with the radiant output from the bedini circuit. I took the positive from the output and connected it to the positive wire on the power coil. What happened was the amp reading suddenly dropped from .40amps to .09amps and the rotor slowed down a bit (not much at all).

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

[elias]

Hi

I think that a Bedini/Muller Combination would have high torque. You can use two wheels, to utilize the magnetic fields of the both ends of the coils, ie. the south and north poles simultaneously. Mine broke and I am going to reconstruct it. I was using an aluminum shaft and the neo magnets broke the shaft at high speed. I have plans for reconstructing it in the coming weeks.

Good Luck

[Joit]

I have ran a test to see what i could do with the radiant output from the bedini circuit. I took the positive from the output and connected it to the positive wire on the power coil. What happened was the amp reading suddenly dropped from .40amps to .09amps and the rotor slowed down a bit (not much at all).

Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

Just guessing,
that the fluxfields faceing now to eachother, or your 2 Coils summarize Lenz law.
And connecting a thin wire to a Thick works like a Transformator.
You could try to switch the Ends your 2nd Coil, maybe it changes back to 0,4 Amps.

[Cyrus]

k thanks for the input.


Ive also spent some time thinking of the relationship between magnet strength and coil cores. I'll need some confirmation on this if possible. Ive come up with a conclusion that since the bedini motor is an attraction motor. Most of the actual torque comes from the magnet attraction force on the core of the coil when the rotor rotates the magnets by the coil core. And that the pulse we push through the coil is only making a neutral effect on that magnet attraction so the rotor wont slow down. In this case will it benefit more if the magnets are stronger and the core is bigger so that the attraction force is greater and thus more torque? The power to the coil will have to also be stepped up but since it is only used to turn the attraction to neutral it wont use up much power.

Would anyone like to tell me if my conclusion is accurate?

[Shamus]

That certainly sounds reasonable; but there's only one way to know for sure.

Also, when the coil is pushing away the north facing magnet it's also simultaneously attracting in the scalar south, so that coil pulse isn't really a neutral effect.

[tjnlsn255]

If you are looking for torque check out theDaftman's latest youtube video...

Is there a Newman motor thread?

Torque is a good thing but requires amps........

Todd