One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

[Lidmotor]

Solar Top-----self running

I put together a rig using JonnyDavro's cylinder magnet, my top charger circuit, and then added a solar cell. It all runs on one AA rechargable. I eliminated the charge battery because of the solar charging aspect. In the video I say that it runs at 10 milliamps but it is really more like 5 to 8.

@JonnyBlade---I played around with the Peltier module a little and decided that it took too much temperature difference to make it work on my projects. The induction aspect that I experienced was inconclusive so I gave up on that.

@Xenomorph----That is an interesting circuit that you posted. Back when I was using the snake egg and running it on AA's, I did try putting the juice coming off a third winding straight back into the source. I used a voltage doubler before I went back to the source. I don't know if it helped or not. On the circuit that I am now using I finally just got the amp draw down as best as I could and then made up the difference with light energy.

Here is the video of my Solar Top ---

YouTube - Lidmotor SOLAR TOP--- self charging

Lidmotor

[Vortex]

@ Lidmotor
As usual you keep us all thinking and wondering ..

Then, Wondering how many Maggie Circuits could be lit off of one master rotor without building the circuits to figure that out ..
I ask the following questions...

Does moving a satellite magnet into the FLUX field of the master rotor cause a torque upon the master rotor resulting in a slowing down or current draw?
Would using your Radio allow you to detect a slow down of the master rotor if not able to detect current draw?

Will the larger satellite sphere spin at a further away distance than a smaller satellite sphere from the master rotor?

Using the rotor used in your "Lidmotor SOLAR TOP--- self charging"
How does Maggie work with the LARGE sphere magnet or is it too large
to fit inside the coil? Will it run upon a lid place upon the Maggie coil?
Can the larger sphere be driven (spun) as a satellite further away in distance than the smaller sphere?

Just

[Lidmotor]

Maggie and the Solar Top

@ Lidmotor
As usual you keep us all thinking and wondering ..

Then, Wondering how many Maggie Circuits could be lit off of one master rotor without building the circuits to figure that out ..
I ask the following questions...

Does moving a satellite magnet into the FLUX field of the master rotor cause a torque upon the master rotor resulting in a slowing down or current draw?
Would using your Radio allow you to detect a slow down of the master rotor if not able to detect current draw?

Will the larger satellite sphere spin at a further away distance than a smaller satellite sphere from the master rotor?

Using the rotor used in your "Lidmotor SOLAR TOP--- self charging"
How does Maggie work with the LARGE sphere magnet or is it too large
to fit inside the coil? Will it run upon a lid place upon the Maggie coil?
Can the larger sphere be driven (spun) as a satellite further away in distance than the smaller sphere?

Just

Vortex----I played around with Maggie and the Solar Top and was going to use her in the video but it would have made the video too long. Maggie works well with the Solar Top but not with the little 3/8" sphere in her mouth. The Solar Top spins too fast. She works off pure induction with a stand off of an inch or two. The Flux Field Generator is a much better way to transmit energy at a distance. I think that it is the paddle wheel effect of that Saturn magnet and the slow speed that can spin up the 3/8" sphere in Maggie's mouth.
I tried many things with the Solar Top before settling on the final design.
One thing was to take the energy that Maggie produced and feed it back to the Solar Top rather than light her eyes. It worked but it slowed the top down. I was thinking: Ah!! I'll just feed Maggie's gathered energy back into the main system and it will self run that way. It wasn't enough. So I turned to the solar cell to get the extra energy that I needed and then I didn't have to turn Maggie's eyes off.
Your question about the larger sphere magnet being used as a satellite is a good one and the answer is it doesn't work. The little satellites move fast enough to not effect the main rotor but a large one kills it.

@ JonnyD and Xenomorph I'm still pondering the reed switch with an orbiting magnet idea. It sounds like you could fill a cap up and pulse charge SOMETHING using that method. Maybe a separate JT light.

Lidmotor

[JohnnBlade]

Parts ordered

Hi All,

i ordered some copperwire from Conrad, and i hope its the right one for me to use
2 x KOPER EMAILLEDR. 0,20 MM 607568-8A
1 x KOPER EMAILLEDR. 0,15 607541-8B

and this is what i already ordered from another shop

1 crocodile cable set
1 Breadboard standaard
1 140 contactwires for breadboards.
1 solarcel 4.5 volt 100ma
3 Transistor 2N3055
4 Transistor 2n2222
2 Batteryholder 2 x AA
1 casing 72x50x63
1 Diode type: 1N4001
1 Diode type: 1N4007
1 rectifier B40C5000
10 resistor (680 ohm)
10 resistor (1 k ohm)
10 resistor (10 k ohm)
1 Light sensitive resistor


Greets JB

[el-tigre]

here is my homemade reedswitch that i build from simple materials
that i still have to test more and adjust it, but it does it work

YouTube - homemade reedswitch Bedini neo magnet motor 2 batteries part 2 JB


Greets JB

An excellent way I have found to make a good extra heavy duty switch is to buy a set of ignition points for a lawnmower and glue a small neo to the appropriate spot. You can rig it for either normally open or normally closed and either attraction or repulsion activated. Cheap and very reliable. The contacts are made for millions of spark gaps before wearing out and they come with nice mounting holes to screw them down where you need them. I hate those flimsy glass tube reed switches, they fail too fast and in too many ways.

[jonnydavro]

@Lidmotor.Hi.Nice job with your solar top.I think that solar energy is the best way of adding extra energy to the run battery and what your experiment shows is it is possible to feed back to source with the motor running as long as you have both volts and amps.It is great you are also using your own circuit to do this as it makes it more original and gives us something else to try.I will replicate your circuit as i would like to compare it to the bedini but from what i can see it is as good.
Regarding the orbiting sphere/switch.When i did it.I replaced the charging battery with a cap.I only connected the diode off the collector to the cap + and the cap - went to the run battery negative.I used a change over reed switch which disconected the run battery+ and connected the cap + to the run battery +.
I found that the time it took the sphere to rotate through 360 degree's,the cap voltage was above the battery voltage so there may be something worth exploring there.
I think we may be able to use this switching method to utilise the bemf,collected from the relay as i have been wondering what to do with that.
Your satturn motor should be ideal to test this as the rpm's arn't that high.
Thanks for sharing regards jonny.
@jonnyblade. i would add a neon and a small 6v or 12v relay and are any of those resistors you ordered variable or have you already got some.I would get a 1k,10k and 100k variable.You will be able to do a lot more things and quicker now you have a breadboard so i look forward to seeing your future experiments. Regards jonny

[retrod]

Tonight I have been spinning various magnets with a function generator & a degaussing coil. I recorded just one of several configurations that work.
YouTube - Sphere Magnet Spinning with Degaussing coil & function generator
If I energize the Bedini coil as configured in the video then I can control the speed of the magnet with the function generator frequency, nice interactions with the Bedini coil as the magnet moves to the center and stays there! In this video the Bedini circuit is shut off (no power to it).

Dave

[Pirate88179]

@ All:

I am going to continue my research on running this device from my earth battery. I am also going to follow along what Lidmotor is doing and add solar into the mix. I just want free energy and I don't really care where it comes from. More later.

Bill

[jonnydavro]

@Retrod.Hi Dave.I have just watched your vid and i think it is quite amazing.What is going on i have no idea but i thought running this from a pulse generator was not going to happen as others have tried but it seems like with the right coil it can be done.Great find.The fact that you can also run the Bedini circuit at the same time is really interesting and i think i speak for us all when i say "please show us more".You have opened another direction for research and i look forward to see where you go with this next.Great job Regards jonny
@Pirate.Hi Bill.I totally agree.Solar energy is available for a good part of the day and it seems pretty free to me as i don't include costs of solar cells etc in the equation.
I have a solar garden light that will charge a 2.7v supercap up in 10 mins or less and i am pretty sure this will run my motor all night,ready for the sun again in the morning.You could even charge a bunch of caps as why only use 10 mins of suntime and switch them with a battery swapper so i think Lidmotor could maybe switch his 1.2v battery from his solar top and maybe it would just run of a cap.
The Earth battery is also free energy as far as i am concerned so a mix of solar and EB sounds like the ideal solution as they compliment each other with the EB supplying juice when the sun don't shine so i am with you on this Bill. Regards jonny

[Vortex]

Wondering

retrod's Bedini / Davro one magnet motor & Aluminum Ball got me thinking ...

If a sphere magnet spun fast enough on a sheet of copper or sheet of aluminum would the sphere magnet levitate?

See these links.
Web page: All-mechanical magnetic levitation with neodymium magnet.
Video: YouTube - Dangerous High-speed Magnetic Levitation Maglev

[fusionchip]

My 1 Milli amp Coil

Hello everyone after 5 days of trying to replicate the jonnydavro bedini i also most gave up . I have been following the thread over at ou . here are some picture of my wobble motor using an egg magnet , it spin wobbles at about 100 rpm ,Slow but the output charges up very fast to 100 volts . i an running it on 2,6 volts and 1 ma charging a 6 volt sla :i am using two pots one resistor a coil from a 110 volt relay a tip3055 transistor and this particular coil is the secret . i originally wound the coil you see on a 1/4 piece of pvc pipe with two cut out circles of Lucite for the ends of the coil . i only wound one wire . 500 feet of # 24 / i was using this coil as a pickup coil only on a rotor bedini . Well i wound just 350 turns around that coil the other night and used it for a trigger . The egg magnet wobbles and spins SLOW but the output is fed in to two 50 volt caps in series on the output side of the circuit so it charges up very quick to over 100 volts fast and that is fed to the 6volt battery. i t is running on 2 nimh batterys .I have tried 12 volts and did not get the magnet to spin any faster .the reason is there is like only a thin tiny layer of trigger on that big spool of wire . the distance of the trigger coil is about the length of the egg magnet so it like to wobble right on the edge of that trigger wire . look the green is the original 500 feet and the red is 350 turns . Its a limited trigger area. and its spinning with no noticeable drop running it for over two days and playing with different magnets . It likes to ride on the trigger so you can get an idea of the wobble spin height. i run it all night and day . so far so good . Its spins a few satellite good but slow .I set a pot on each leg of the relay coil and the resistor is at the base .i could only get it to wobble spin on one side of this coil but it is steady and i have a cone of silence on it now Now i was playing with that big sphere neo 1 inch n48 and it will spin fast on the edge of the red and green but it spins so fast it eventually starts to dig in and run away . i am sure the current draw is high with it spinning so fast .I even tried oil on the bowl but i think i saw smoke and it eventually burns it away and then fires off the bowl like a buck shot from hell ! the Egg on this one is a jewel .It purrrrs with its slow wobble . I am making another one and leaving this one to do its thing . i will probably mount the electronics and coil in a nice container and let it run as is and charge away . I will work on that swapper circuit of mine with the 555 timer and make it flop two sets of batteries . My next coil will be made just for this project . 4 wires litz .
Gadget
aka fusionchip

[Xenomorph]

@Vortex:

I had seen that video too before. It is a cool experiment.
If you do it like in the video you need an energy input into the rotating tubes, so the benefit of having the rotor levitate is neglected by the additional energy cost of the rotation. And the exact counterdirectional rotation of the tubes are the principles of his experiment.

Using the spheres own rotation even if that would work somehow is close to impossible because:

- How will you start it up to reach the rotational speed necessary to lift?
- That speed is much much higher than the rotations of the one magnet motor
- Where would you put the main coil?

Stronger Diamagnetics just work fine without energy input.
Unfortunately the materials are insanely pricey and therefore out of my current budget.
The main rotor might be too heavy even to be levitated. I have seen it work only with very tiny magnets because
you cant boost up the diamagnetic strength.

[Vortex]

@Vortex:

I had seen that video too before. It is a cool experiment.
If you do it like in the video you need an energy input into the rotating tubes, so the benefit of having the rotor levitate is neglected by the additional energy cost of the rotation. And the exact counterdirectional rotation of the tubes are the principles of his experiment.

Using the spheres own rotation even if that would work somehow is close to impossible because:

- How will you start it up to reach the rotational speed necessary to lift?
- That speed is much much higher than the rotations of the one magnet motor
- Where would you put the main coil?



Stronger Diamagnetics just work fine without energy input.
Unfortunately the materials are insanely pricey and therefore out of my current budget.
The main rotor might be too heavy even to be levitated. I have seen it work only with very tiny magnets because
you cant boost up the diamagnetic strength.

I failed to mention the thought was to levitate a satellite magnet on a copper plate.
Speed of the copper tubes in that video were 6,000 rpm .. that is not very fast...

Diamagnetic material is not required, besides you then have to worry about balancing the opposing forces to get levitation and then keep it adjusted.

The video used just copper tubes and that created a perfectly balanced opposing force for levitation and the magnet did not spin/move.

Reverse that, magnets that move, so the copper/aluminum will be stationary.
Flip-flop that using a dish wrapped in aluminum foil and spinning sattilite.

The question becomes, how fast is fast enough?

fusionchip

[Xenomorph]

Feedback to source quantified

Comwarrior69 has found a way to squeeze a lot of energy out of the circuit back to the source via clever positioning of diodes even tapping it from the primary winding.
I applied it to the one magnet motor and the diode isolated capacitor
allows a comparison between the battery running and the capacitor running.
The low source voltage required the usage of germanium diodes because they have a lower breakdown voltage.

I am running at 2.4 Volt at 3 mA with the feedback capacitor and only on battery it runs at 6mA. I need a better ampmeter with such low currents hehe.



YouTube - Feedback Source 3


EDIT: I have to make clear that 90% of the current reduction is due to the feedback from the first 2 windings. The one wire thing does work but it goes much slower.

Nice one Bodkins! Cant wait to see your video!

[Bodkins]

I can get the same effect with the sg and clf back the the power battery with one wire charging a cap in parral to the battery, again i cant see if the draw is lower But i have no HV around the setup.
I have two videos uploading of the earth battery charging a cap with single wire, this is free energy that needs a switch to get the true potenial out of it.