One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

[twinbeard]

Be careful with networking wires. I got a whole roll and it turned out to be magnetic... Like steel is. I thought it was copper and the guy who sold it to me said it was. Well it wasn't and it is magnetic. I haven't tried to wire any coils with it since my Rodin coil fiasco. Weird I have never seen wire that you could attach a magnet to without any power applied... Heh...

Ok, I will grant that there are probably some folks out there who "go cheap" on the materials in the manufacture of CAT5. I was astonished to discover when I visited Russia that the majority of the telephone and networking cables were made from lead. Ouch! For the quantities we are talking about, most folks (in the US anyway) can visit their local Home Depot or so and test the wire personally before buying.

On a side note, that wire may be pretty good for a flux only circuit path...

The multiple wires I was talking about is like monster cable for speakers with a huge bundle of wires clamped together by the end connectors. Radio Shack sells it or High end Audio shops for cars have it. The reason you want a lot of strands is that as a receiver it has many parallel conductors to receive more charges. With high frequencies it would not act like a whole copper conductor.

Indeed, the stranding may be pretty good for the skin effect.

I am very familiar with these cables, having owned a car stereo/mobile electronics shop in the past. In fact, I still have wholesale accounts with several manufacturers, one of which makes the best wire for mobile applications, IMHO. Each strand is individually tinned to prevent corrosion, which is handy, and they measure the wire gauge at the actual wire diameter, instead of that of the jacket like many manufacturers. I currently have spools of #4 and #8 laying around in case anyone wants some for a good price. They also have a very nice double jacketed oxygen free copper dual #12 finely stranded, and the two #12's are in a twisted pair arrangement. I use all of these cables as power cables in my SolarNetOne product.

Cheers,
Twinbeard

[synchro]

Sphere magnets.

I just got a shipment from K&M of all the spheres from 2" down to 1/8" in quantity. My first test involved spinning the 1&1/2" with a Bedini solenoid air core and droping a 3/4" neo sphere into the aircore of a solenoid ouput coil with a 3/4", core like Maggie. What I noticed and was testing for was the output from the stationary satellite magnet and it's effect on the prime mover. The voltage was around .2 and the net effect was to help the spinner.

I can feel the satellite magnet throbbing with power when held near enough to the spinner. What's at work here with the powerful 3/4" neo satellite magnet that relieves the work load from the main rotor and at the same time generates power while sitting motionless? This power is sufficient to charge the running battery, for a verifiable overunity factor. This was done with a capacitor fast diode loop back to source circuit. The satellite magnet must be doing work to amplify the power this way. This is a very important discovery, and extremely simple to replicate. I would really welcome input in explaining how these test results square with the second law of thermodynamics?

I have the 1" spinner under complete control inside a spice shaker cap. It needs to spin with the spiral coil in an upright position. My large PVC coil will be ready tomorrow. I have abandoned all my axel variations in favor of the non bearing spinning sphere. I'll try and clock it, but I already know from the sound of it that it can't be beat. The sphere is very stable with the Spiral Knot and has seemingly no upper limt at this time. I may need an oscilliscope to begin clock it now.

My JVC camcorder reached a technician for repair finally. May have some video soon!

[synchro]

New Coil

I just got back from the shop with the new coil. I ran the 1" neo sphere up inside a cup positioned in the center of the upright Spiral Knot. The Knot and sphere are nested down inside the PVC core. The coil is 318k resistence of #31 for 2444 feet, and a secondary of 70 feet of reverse wound #16 gauge in one single wrap top to bottem. This should place both coil poles the same way when wired in series. These two wraps output around 6 volts in series with the 1" neo sphere running at high speed.

The interesting aspect and what I've been testing for is the increase in r.p.m.'s when I connect the primary in series to the secondary, the coil begins to generate power and the neo sphere speeds up instead of slowing down from Lenz effect! This bears out the theory once again that the satellite rotor is being driven by the field shift it generates in the output coil around it. I'll get some pictures up from Gerald, but here it is again Folks, the same overunity backwards effect that I have coined the "Lenz Propulsion" effect, for want of anything better to refer to it as. It's working extremely well on this vastly scaled up version. Everything fit together just right for optimum performance. I'm thrilled.

[Jbignes5]

Hey..

It just dawned on me that a few questions never got asked about the satalites. Do they spin with the drive magnet or against it? Like in the same direction or opposite direction? This could give us a clue as to weather the satalites are spinning in a field or driven by a conduit connection.

[Jbignes5]

Ok, I will grant that there are probably some folks out there who "go cheap" on the materials in the manufacture of CAT5. I was astonished to discover when I visited Russia that the majority of the telephone and networking cables were made from lead. Ouch! For the quantities we are talking about, most folks (in the US anyway) can visit their local Home Depot or so and test the wire personally before buying.

On a side note, that wire may be pretty good for a flux only circuit path...



Indeed, the stranding may be pretty good for the skin effect.

I am very familiar with these cables, having owned a car stereo/mobile electronics shop in the past. In fact, I still have wholesale accounts with several manufacturers, one of which makes the best wire for mobile applications, IMHO. Each strand is individually tinned to prevent corrosion, which is handy, and they measure the wire gauge at the actual wire diameter, instead of that of the jacket like many manufacturers. I currently have spools of #4 and #8 laying around in case anyone wants some for a good price. They also have a very nice double jacketed oxygen free copper dual #12 finely stranded, and the two #12's are in a twisted pair arrangement. I use all of these cables as power cables in my SolarNetOne product.

Cheers,
Twinbeard

Not for the skin effect but to receive the charges with. Cutting many many parallel wires would generate tons more energy then solid core wires. I guess that was my point lol.

[synchro]

Spin direction.

@jbignes5,

I can say one thing with certainty; I know the direction the sphere's spinning inside my Spiral Knot. Magnets will only spin one way, in a 90 degree plane to the face of the knot. This is very important to be under complete control, as the spin has to be on a 90 degree plane to the output coil wraps. This direction control feature comes complete with this Spiral Knot configuration. It permits only unidirectional spin.

The satellite magnet's flux currents may not always line up well with the output coil wraps due to their dependence on the variations caused by a fickle prime mover.

[twinbeard]

Not for the skin effect but to receive the charges with. Cutting many many parallel wires would generate tons more energy then solid core wires. I guess that was my point lol.

Umm... right. More strands = More surface area = more skin effect = High frequency will travel in a helical pattern over the surface of a conductor, once the electrostatic potential grounds itself into the conductor. Oddly, 3 wraps of the #8AWG tinned stranded did not help my transformer output as compared to 15 wraps of #22. Funny, that.

Cutting a long length of small individually insulated wires generates a nice high voltage voltage tho, and if you couple it with a high enough frequency, you can phase shift the current release forward in time ever so slightly... just long enough to let your rotor get halfway around seems about right. Then the coil makes its field, and gives the rotor a little boost

There is a sweetspot somewhere in the ratio of frequency to coil impedence... "that old demon must live somewhere past the 2 on that mach meter." Time to go chase him with some new well tuned generator coils, I think.

Cheers,
He of two beards.

[synchro]

Lenz Booster Motor Alternator.

"Then the coil makes its field, and gives the rotor a little boost". Twinbeard. Then to paraphrase him: When current runs through the coil, the coil makes the field, then magnetic poles appear at opposite ends of the output coil. The rotor beats it half way further around, then the poles shift again, but they're laging. This motor alternator at least begins to partialy power itself when current is drawn from the output coils.

I think this is helping to power Lidmotor's Maggie. I'm calling this Boost "Lenz Propulsion". This force is a drag on the rotor from the other end. I settled on spinning a sphere in my Knot Bedini output core. It's traveling too fast for my laser tach to read.

Here are the pictures of my "Moby Maggie". One can see how the Knot and 1" neo sphere nest neatly inside the output coil. The 31 gauge and 16 gauge primary and seconday can be seen on the top of the coil wall. The Spiral knot is seated two ways, at 90 degrees from itself in the two left shots, and the Knot , cup and neo sphere lofted on top of the coil wall to the right. The speed and stability of the sphere are awesome! This is the highest state of the art for me so far, starting with the plumbers spool and traveling through that C.D. ceramic bearing job etc.

This one gets the "Little Boost" that Twinbeard refers to. This is the finished product for me. It even looks like some kind of "Mach-factor Overdrive Generator"! I'll be busy testing this one out for the forseeable future. My camcorder's being repaired, and I'll be able to upload videos soon. I'll try and get a scope shot set up. The core could seal and evacuate of air for further efficency. The rotor can start by remote spinner if required.

[twinbeard]

Hey Synchro,

That looks great. Well done.

"Then the coil makes its field, and gives the rotor a little boost". Twinbeard. Then to paraphrase him: When current runs through the coil, the coil makes the field, then magnetic poles appear at opposite ends of the output coil. The rotor beats it half way further around, then the poles shift again, but they're laging. This motor alternator at least begins to partialy power itself when current is drawn from the output coils.

Exactly... once the minimum frequency is reached. There is likely a top end on that as well. A bandpass of frequencies, to borrow an audio crossover term. At the top end, the phasing is too close to 0 from the high end to give the boost. I think defining these bands and their relationship to coil parameters could yield a set of "gearing" coils... such that when the band of one is maxed, it is disengaged and a lower resistance coil is engaged, drawing more current and requiring the higher frequency to match the lower capacitive effect. this would accelerate the rotor to the top of that band, where another coil would take over, until the target frequencies are finally reached.

I think this is helping to power Lidmotor's Maggie. I'm calling this Boost "Lenz Propulsion". This force is a drag on the rotor from the other end. I settled on spinning a sphere in my Knot Bedini output core. It's traveling too fast for my laser tach to read.

I bet the outer coil has some nice high voltage on it too.

Here are the pictures of my "Moby Maggie". One can see how the Knot and 1" neo sphere nest neatly inside the output coil. The 31 gauge and 16 gauge primary and seconday can be seen on the top of the coil wall. The Spiral knot is seated two ways, at 90 degrees from itself in the two left shots, and the Knot , cup and neo sphere lofted on top of the coil wall to the right. The speed and stability of the sphere are awesome! This is the highest state of the art for me so far, starting with the plumbers spool and traveling through that C.D. ceramic bearing job etc.

This one gets the "Little Boost" that Twinbeard refers to. This is the finished product for me. It even looks like some kind of "Mach-factor Overdrive Generator"! I'll be busy testing this one out for the forseeable future. My camcorder's being repaired, and I'll be able to upload videos soon. I'll try and get a scope shot set up. The core could seal and evacuate of air for further efficency. The rotor can start by remote spinner if required.

Its good you got the effect with the larger rotor. That should be a very powerful device!


Twinbeard

[penno64]

Spiral Knot Coil

Hi all,

Looking to wind Synchro's SPIRAL KNOT COIL

I couldn't find anything on youtube.

Any clues greatly appreciated.

Regards, Penno

[synchro]

The "Spifilar".

@penno64

@Rave154begin with

To start off, I use the Radio Shack 24 gauge 2 conductor 75 foot roll. This costs about $6.95. The Spiral Coil starts and ends in the same place. You may have to cut it to arrive there.

You have to wind the wire onto a stick, so you can lace the toroid core. After that choose a dimension, like a large coffee mug for a 2" I.D. toroid. Leave a little to begin with , then make three or four loops to start, then begin to spiral the wire to where it feels right. Don't worry too much about neatness. This produces four wires at the end as the speaker wire's bifilar.

Take a look at the size of the coil on the top in comparison to the objects in scale to get a general idea of the size. I had to cut about 10 or 20 feet off the skien because the hole began to grow too small. There's a close up of the coil too. You can see how the spiral looks under the tape. It's comming up and over at about a 45 degree angle. The turns are spread out more at the beginning. The brown speckeled magnet is 1" long.

Nothing on you tube so far. Here's a how to verbal description. It's the two "solid conductor" speaker wire. This coil wraps itself. Leave some to start for the first wire, then form a hoop of three or four wire loops, and begin the spiral, fewer turns per loop at first. Don't leave any space between the wires. Then it wires tighter as it thickens up with increasingly more wraps per loop. Strech it out as far as possible to begin with. Scale the core area to your spinner size. End where you started, and tape it up. Winding the wire from the spool to the threading stick is half the job. This spiral toroid coil produces a rotating bi-polar field on the inside rim of the air core. This spinning bi-polar field powers the rotor even more efficiently then Tesla's industrial field powering induction motors power theirs. This is a free style artsy kind of wrap project. Magnatisem benifits from organic anomoly, as domains are incongruous in nature. Enjoy yourself! Infuse the Zen! Tao!

The spiraling current is rotating the bi-polar field faster then the transistor triggers the power pulse. Mach 1 is around 258K r.p.m. for the 1" neo sphere. Twinbeard's up to Mach 1.67 with his 1/8". Twinbeard uses a Starship Coil, a bifilar toroid with angles and spaces. I believe both coils rotate the bi-polar fields at close to light speed. The question I have at this point is, will the alternator generate power if the magnet rotor's motionless, while adjacent to a remote spinner?

[twinbeard]

@penno64

The spiraling current is rotating the bi-polar field faster then the transistor triggers the power pulse. Mach 1 is around 258K r.p.m. for the 1" neo sphere. Twinbeard's up to Mach 1.67 with his 1/8". Twinbeard uses a Starship Coil, a bifilar toroid with angles and spaces. I believe both coils rotate the bi-polar fields at close to light speed. The question I have at this point is, will the alternator generate power if the magnet rotor's motionless, while adjacent to a remote spinner?

I concur with your hypothesis regarding the Rodin coil, the starship, and the celtic knot... the torsional effect is the key to the results, not the exact method of achieving such. Good science!

My setup will self resonate, and output goes through the roof without the work of moving the rotor. I have not tried it with satellites as the b field necessary to link the satellites to; that being the b field of the rotor, from my understanding, is too small with my 1/8" model to even consider driving satellites. I will be winding new coils for the 1" rotor models based on your results, and will be fooling with the satellites with that motor.

For an idea of what I think is happening with the satellites, have a google at "Flux Transfer Event." Scale that down in 4 dimensions, and there are the man and satellite rotors.

Cheers,
Twinbeard


Cheers,
Twinbeard

[synchro]

Magnet generation.

I just tested the large output core with a 2" Neo sphere seated motionless inside, and a remote 1" neo spinner. The large coil is generating 80 on the 200 a.c. volts scale. I imagine that would be 8 volts. This is the kind of output I ran back to source for my self runner. Looks like another windfall jackpot bonanza! Try not to get these spheres stuck together like I did this morning. Ouch. I had to stomp them apart while sandwiched in a drawer. I may be able to loop back to a 6 volt source. I think the same "Lenz Boost" power principle is at work pumping the field of the stationary magnet from inside the core, as when the magnet's spinning. This 2" Neo is too large to spin, but it's adding to the ouput by way of magnetic induction.

Update: I ran in on it's side with the spinner at the mouth and got over 120 on the 200 a.c. scale. I think that's over twelve volts now. Enough to handle my operating needs. I just have Spiral Knot standing in a piece of PVC, with the cup and spinner inside. This setup already went OU for me. I can sense the amplification in power. The spinner speeds up from work the output coil's doing, even though there's nothing moving over there. The addition of the twice the power sphere for satillite has already increased the output of the coil over the internal rotating one, even though it's not moving. If Lidmotor just plugged Maggies entire aircore with a 3/4 inch diametric neo, I bet his output could loop back like mine did, and charge his power battery too.

[synchro]

Self oscillation.

The Spiral Knot bifilar Bedini went into self oscillation with the 1&1/2" Neo inside the large output coil core. The charge battery rate began to soar, but what's more, the large output coils began to generate power. I Took a shock from the outer wraps, and charged a 1 Farad capacitor up to about 4&1/2 volts. Just what 's going on here? Anyone ever experience this effect? All I can think is that there's a three way oscillation that includes the magnet and output wraps too. I tried to loop back to source, the charge rate to primary failed to climb but held steady. This consumes alot of power from the primary, but it looked like it was being replaced. That leaves the accelerated charge battery rate for bonus if the run loop's a push. The other unexplained thing was that the primary and seconadry coils were not connected in series and should have produced nothing. I'm certain the whole area is alive with Spatial Energy Coherence. Lidmotor's latest Joulini has a SEC primary wired in between the source and power coil on his bifilar pulse coil that activates his thin wire tower secondary. Maybe this connection's unescessary.

I think if Lidmotor were to house his oscillating Joulini magnet and coil inside his SEC tower, he could dispense with the wire connection. Jonnydavro brought out the first Bedini SEC oscillation video. I envision a spiral knot coil in oscillation over a magnet sphere inside the base of a Slayer SEC tower with no connection, maybe wired as simply as Lidmotor's Joulini. I think the Joulini can even get rid of the magnet too. One can envision the bifilar Spiral Knot as a Joule thief toroid with out the ferrite ring. This is basicly what I came with at this point with my oversized Maggie. Another question remains; Is there an SEC energy generated by the magnet plug output coil?

The bifilar knot at the inside base of the Slayer SEC tower, with the primary wraped around the outside and wired as a Joule thief would make a pretty slick package. One loop of bifilar wire would probably work as a joule thief resonator at the base. I want to try and wire the bifilar Spiral Knot into the primary and secondary of the output coil through an MPSA06 transistor, Joule thief style, and try a spinner inside the new SEC. I see no reason why the output coils can't be dual purposed as an SEC transmitter and spinner output coil. The spin rate has to be a harmonic of the SEC frequency. The additional output should get a high voltage boost through the feedback loop.

Imagine that Lidmotor looped his Maggie current back to his Joulini SEC circuit. We don't need those lights. Now what if we just placed the Maggie wrap around the SEC tower, and ran the spinner inside. The same power's gonna be available, and we can loop it back the same way if we choose. One can see how all that might take place on it's own with no new Maggie wrap on the SEC tower. I'm trying to farm this experimet out as usual.

[synchro]

Cop>1

The 1" neo sphere at top end is charging both a 1 Farad capacitor, the run and a charge battery. The Capacitor & Primary are wired to the 16 guage output wrap alone through a full wave bridge rectifier. The "boost" must be enough to compensate for all the input and operating losses. It helped to lower the input with the potentiometer. I can cut input even more with the addition of Jonnydavro's 12 volt relay in the trigger circuit. It's doing what I designed it to do, so I'm calling it a success so far. I may be forced to return to the ceramic bearings, because the friction is wearing the neo sphere's nickle surface away faster then I anticipated.