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  • Output resonance.

    I have my twin bifilar Spiral Coil wired in series, as an output coil, sandwiched between the Spiral power Coil and the 2" spinner. The output coil delivers between 12 and 20 volts rectifed d.c. depending on the r.p.m. The twin wrap charges a large 12 volt 1 farad capacitor like a plug in wall charger. This size cap is just right to feedback to source from. This coil and feedback loop are independent of the power circuit.

    I have included the 12 volt relay pots and resistors, to help curf the pulse width and save input power jonnydavro style. Next, I plan to wire the high voltage bemf through 4, 1200 volt rectifier diodes, and try and light those 120 volt Led's like Magnetman12003. The feedback loop reduces input to a real penny pinched amount of pulse power.

    Tesla pointed out that his bifilar in resonance looses its normal resistance. In that range, the system can really begin to coast on it's own. I am running my coils taped together, and the 1 & 1/2" neo sphere induces resonance along with an increased chargeing rate. I'm waiting to see what this will do for the new lamp circuit.

    I noticed that Jiffycoil is spinning over a flat pancake. My Spral won't spin a sphere lying flat, it has to be upright. My question is: Would the pancake coil spin a diametric tube positioned through the center like an axel? Just imagine how powerful a pulse motor could grow with rows of spiral pancake power coils wired in series around a 1' long industrial diametric tube magnet. Half the pancake coils could be designated for output, or dual purposed for power as well. This combination could provide very low cost lighting in the selfloop mode and do very meaningful work under full load, with all the coils for power. Circuitry could meter the load to task for peak efficency, as it does for our advaned a.c. motor counterparts.

    A stack of bifilar spiral pancakes wired for hi-voltage, and in series, with a diametric neo tube through the centers, and wired also in series with a simple reed switch and relay would provide competative sports level torque.
    Last edited by synchro; 11-06-2010, 07:41 PM.

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    • Spiral pancake.

      I wound a quick Spiral Pancake Coil from about 20 feet of left over bi-conductor speaker wire and found the pancake works just like the spiral knot. This tiny 2" I.D. aircore CD size pancake coil won't spin the tube through the middle or the sphere laying flat, although it works fine on the perpendicular just like the Spiral Knot. Jiffycoi'ls sphere must be skidding sideways on his pvc holder. This coil has an incredible amount of power for the paltry amount of wire and construction time. This Speaker wire is insulated side by side for a flat winding wire that you can take around easy and tape as you go with small sections. The pancaker really packs a wallop for economy of size. The output's very strong too, about 9 volts comming from this puppy. However, for thickness and the additional power, I would adopt my Spiral Knot fashion. I believe it to be superior. The CD size pancake coil really eats up alot of power, at least four times what the 70' length big brother Spiral Knot consumes for a few thousand r.p.m. More wire wraps equal more magnetic strength per Watt of input power. Magnetman12003's power coil is over 700 feet. Ten times the length and probably ten times the power per watt of input then my much smaller Spiral Knot. A 741' length Spiral Knot would look like a large Rodin Coil when done, and be much more powerful than the single pole power solenoid type. I may have to try and wrap a very large one this size.

      In the mean time I succeeded in wiring the twin bifilar in parallel to act as one power coil. Gee Wiz! It' really souped up now! This should run for half the input as the single. This was a bit tricky to get wired correctly, there're 8 seperate wires. I'll test this more tomorrow. This makes 140' of bifilar.
      Last edited by synchro; 11-07-2010, 04:24 AM.

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      • synchro.....videos videos videos !!!!!!

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        • Overunity.

          I wired the twin bifilar Spiral Knot in parallel for double power. I have it spinning the 1 & 1/2" neo sphere in the air core center of the two paired Spiral Knots. The Spiral output coil is series wired for high voltage. The Spiral bifilar and power twin are taped back to back. The output is looped back to the run battery through a full wave bridge rectifier, and charging it handsomely! I am well OU>1. I have the 12 volt relay and extras Jonnydavro adds to the SSG, and keep the pulse width tapered back. The second charge battery gained nicely too.

          All the pieces added up to more then the whole. The extra magnetic force from the additional wire in the linked power coils was enough to push it over the top. The posative charge rate back to source is inversely about the same as the negative drain from the one power coil with no feedback. Time to pop the corks on this version. Overwhelming success!

          @rave154:

          I just emailed the JVC repair shop. The camera should be close to finished with the repair work. I really came through with something special to video now. This is not a hoax. Anyone should be able to replicate this setup. I plan to install this unit in my Honda Insight Hybrid as a permanent after market upgrade.
          Last edited by synchro; 11-07-2010, 07:59 PM.

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          • That's great.

            Hi Synchro,


            That is great! I have been following all your improvements and have been really impressed by your intuitive skill. I am really looking forward to your videos and hope you will post a schematic of how it all goes together. I don't remember if you said whether you were going to the conference or not. I sure hope you are. I would sure like to meet you and congratulate you in person. I already have some neos I ordered after seeing what you were doing. I just haven't gotten as far as you. I have seen some really good charging though using a neo just sitting on top of a Bedini coil and circuit. Thanks for sharing all your hard work.

            Thanks, Carroll
            Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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            • toroid coil.

              @cifta,

              Thank you for your kind words. I'll post schematics and a video soon. I want to point a few things out to begin with.

              Firstly:

              The toroid has the same advantage over the linear coil that a horseshoe magnet has over a bar magnet. The horseshoe is two magnets!

              The toroid coil has two poles, one on each side of the inner air core rim. Both poles help power the neo sphere. Jonnydavro has an early video where he demonstrates the doubling of mechanical power by pulsing a second rotor with the unused end of his solenoid style coil, at no increased cost to input.

              The toroid coil will double the power, and Tesla's bifilar series wrap doubles the voltage of a bifilar coil and doubles it's magnetic strength, with no additional input as well. The hi voltage bifilar toroid has 4 times the power of a single wrap solenoid, for the same amount of wire and input power.

              The realization that voltage alone can increase magnetic strength, is the key to understanding how overunity is achievable. This understanding helped turn Joseph Newman into a fervent messianic messenger. We can create magnetic field force without costing any power, just by transforming the potential. These are two of the tricks involved. Now for the Quadfilar:

              My Spiral Knot bifilar twin has the start and end of each same wire connected together. That leaves four ends for the Bedini connections. All the wires in the coil are included in the power circuit. Perhaps this is the secret behind any hidden voltage? More testing is under way. This new power coil and wiring arrangement pushed the setup beyond the threshold of unity. I really have no idea what's actually taking place inside the coil. I was shocked when it fired up re-wired this way. My best guesses failed. I measured strong inductance across all the leads after sitting still with the neo sphere inside. None of those wires are connected! That's a mystery for now. How can this coil work with what amounts to 4 short circuits? Where's the ground for the power pulse? How can current travel through a closed loop of wire? Attach a hot lead to a closed loop of wire, does the wire loop charge or remain inert? This test poses many more riddles then it helps clear up. Perhaps the powerful neo magnet increases inductance, and helps create a wireless ground between the tight wraps? Does a very powerful high voltage potential develop between the charged closed loop spiral wraps? Maybe this power coil is not useing any power! It may just charge up and spin the sphere through an oscillation harmonic. The amount of sheer output it delivers back to source would seem to bear the oscillation theory out. How can a coil of four closed loops consume power? This may be an important advance. I welcome input from anyone who cares to offer any additional explanation.

              Secondly:

              The third and fourth applications involve narrowing pulse width and eliminating coil resistance running in resonant range. This involves matching the proper magnet strength with the correct number of power wraps, and tailoring the transistor base resistance.

              Wesley Gary's pole reversing magnet motor can increase power by either adding more magnets or more electo-wire turns. Neither of these upgrades raise the input. Naturally, increasing current will increase power, along with input cost. Raising voltage will increase power too, up to a limit, with voltage sharing the savings advantage of additional magnets and copper wraps.
              Last edited by synchro; 11-08-2010, 04:59 AM.

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              • Intercom wire.

                I wound a Spiral pancake quadfilar coil from a 20 foot 4 strand spool of Radio Shack Intercom wire. This broad strip of white black red and green 26 gauge wire winds very easily into a CD size pancake coil with 8 ends. This is a 5 minute job. This comes out twice the thickness, and is the same as stacking a twin. I believe this coil can drive a non bearing rotor with a harmonic resonance that draws practicly no amount of power, like it's Quadfilar Spiral Knot counterpart. The 24 gauge bifilar CD size pancake does a pretty good job. Remember, connect the opposite ends of the same wire. Same color to same color with the intercom wire. This leaves four loops of matching colored pairs for the circuit. Now we have four identical spiral coils, one on top of the other.

                The base and emiter of the transister are connected to the same wire, on different ends of the coil in the customary Bedini style bifilar circuit. No longer so in the Quadfilar. The base and the emiter and ground are now connected to seperate coils. The collector and the posative pole of the battery are connected end to end through the same wire too. In the Quad, they're connected to seperate coils. The coils operate differently with these non connected loops. The magnet brings the coils into resonance, input's then reduced to the mere minimal level of mere maintenance of magnetic field strength.

                I awakened this morning, and once again got a fierce rate of loopback charge to the run battery from this strange kind of power wrap, coupled with hi voltage Spiral Knot output coil. I may have to send this off to Stephan Hartmann to challenge or compete for the overunity prize. My video camera is scheduled to arrive Friday, so I'll have some very exciting videos uploaded in another week.
                Last edited by synchro; 11-09-2010, 04:18 AM.

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                • Video

                  Here's the link to my youtube channel and the first videos of my Spiral Knots in action:

                  YouTube - zebok3's Channel

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                  • joule thief light spinner.

                    My next video will feature the power Spiral wired Joule thief style with candalabra Led's and a loopback to source circuit from the other quadfilar twin. I plan to compare watts of input to watts in bemf Lumens of output. Waiting on bulb shipment. This video of Lidmotors is useig the same kind of wire. The Twin Spiral should light the candelabra and loopback to source too.

                    YouTube - Lidmotor's Channel
                    Last edited by synchro; 11-20-2010, 09:15 PM.

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                    • Flywheel battery.

                      The new Porsche 911 Hybrid includes a flywheel battery that's powered by two induction motors on the front wheels. The power from regenerative braking spins a magnet rotor flywheel that generates power as it decelerates to re-power the motors, exactly like the Spiral Knot Neo Sphere.

                      This Spiral Knot Neo Sphere self regenerator acts just like a rapid recovery storage battery as well as the costly Porsche one, combined with any induction motor. A recumbant bicycle could store down hill braking power in a high velocity spinning magnet sphere, by switching the induction motor into a brake powering generator. The Neo Sphere inertia would then be available to help power the vehicle up the next hill or down a straight away. This is currently the highest state of Hybrid Technology Art. This setup replaces a heavy and very costly battery. Compare the dollar amount and weight size advantage. I think we've already out engineered Porsche with the non bearing version. There's an over view schematic attached. The flywheel's positioned in the center of gravity, labled #4 in the attachment and helps provide inertial stability as well. You can see the larger area the rotor diameter requires. It requires very expensive precision ceramic bearings too. I don't think a frictionless non bearing magnet sphere can be beat. Properly seated, the Sphere can be made to ride on a pressure cushion of air.
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                      Last edited by synchro; 11-20-2010, 09:12 PM.

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                      • A novel coil

                        I made a short video showing an easy to make compact spiral bifilar coil in action.
                        YouTube - Bedini / Davro no bearing motor re-visited with spiral wound coil

                        Have fun,
                        Dave

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                        • Originally posted by retrod View Post
                          I made a short video showing an easy to make compact spiral bifilar coil in action.
                          YouTube - Bedini / Davro no bearing motor re-visited with spiral wound coil

                          Have fun,
                          Dave
                          I moved the same coil to a vertical position and tested it.
                          YouTube - Bedini / Davro Spiral Coil Follow Up Showing Vertical Polarization

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                          • These videos and post are a year late. I did everything here last year but for some reason I was delaying to post this.

                            Anyway. On this video I show an interesting effect, the spinning magnet spins around the opposite way when power is removed, also, I show off my wireless piano. I found that for every 5 K of ohmage increase you give the Base, you go up a note, so I made a resistor array and fashioned a kind of wireless piano. Unlike a real piano, you can't do chords, as adding multiple base resistors in parallel simply drop the resistance and you get a lower note.
                            YouTube - One Magnet Bedini Spinner - WIRELESS Piano -

                            Ok the second video is the first attempt with my friend who has a recording studio named Status Check Entertainment. He was working a myriad of delay pedals and I was playing around with the device. This music reminds me of Klaus Schultze, but the Klaus has got alot more skill then I.
                            YouTube - Magnetic Radionics Generator

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                            • Magnet core output coil.

                              "leon dragone" - Google Search

                              I came by the work of Leon Dragone, a physicist who experimented with stationary magnet core output coils. His theory is basicly the same as Nicolay Zaev's: A nuclear heat exchange within the magnet material that results in cooling and generation of elecric power.

                              Those of us who have kept up with this thread, remember how The Maggie effect demonstrated by Jonnydavro and Lidmotor in their Light Multiplier videos led me to experiment with magnet core output coils. I now believe Dragone's theories better explain the overunity effect I described and hypothesized about.

                              Dragone simply pulsed the magnet core coil windings, then recoverd the current running out through the same wires. He reported an OU> 20. I am setting up to test for this effect right now. I am wireing a DPDT switch into the circuit to allow for a seperate pathway for the output. I plan to pulse the Spiral Knot coil with the 2" neo in the core. This coil field is strong enough to hoist this Leviathon Sphere in the center. Dragone says everything works; Changing magnet polarity or reversing current etc. I should get results with this setup.
                              Last edited by synchro; 12-20-2010, 08:13 PM.

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                              • Dragone.

                                Here's a different link to Leon's work:

                                I wonder if a capacitor with a switch and diode between the coil leads would return the charge to itself from a pulsed coil of copper wires with a magnet core? JLN has a seconday on his ferrite toroid 2SGen which won't work without the magnets. Maybe just the coil wraped magnets alone will work even better than the nanoperm core and magnets combined, as Leon Dragone describes?

                                I think twin capacitors of equal value on each side of the DPDT switch, wired to split coil leads, with a diode between one side of the recovery cap and the coil, should very simply and conclusively prove a gain or not by comparison of pulse charge and recovery charge to the recovery side after just one pulse.
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                                Last edited by synchro; 12-21-2010, 08:27 PM.

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