One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

[synchro]

Magnet pulse test.

The first Dragone test yielded about half the power back in the recovery cap. 8 volts back for the 16 in the power cap. The twin 16 volt 6800 mf caps wired power in series to one side of the DPDT the center poles shorted and the recovery cap and diode in parallel on the other side.

The switch has to go through the off position, that's when the power appears. The coil was the old single wrap 32 gauge 3/4 inch aircore with the same two 3/4 inch diametric neos end to end. The spool's 1 1/2 inchs high.

I have three additional test coils set up to try. The hi voltage bifilar is next. This may double the magnetic force and balance the ratio.

My next test will pulse one coil of a magnet core bifilar by reed switch, and moniter the seconday for output.

[jonnydavro]

Nice vids Retrod and Cosmic .Thanks for posting them and funny enough,Dave's vid shows similar behavior to Cosmicfarmers when power is removed.
@cosmicfarmer.Very interesting observation.If you still have your setup handy,you could try spinning the magnet anticlockwise and see how it behaves,also turn the coil through 180 degrees and pulse with a different magnetic pole and see if it changes rotation.
When you remove power,the spinning magnet induces a current in the coil which turns the coil back into an electromagnet,pole orientation unknown which must have an influence on the magnet along with lenz drag so many forces at work.Try removing power by switching in a diode and you will see a negative amp draw as your device has changed from a motor to a generator and your battery may charge a bit.
The electronic piano is also very interesting especially as it is due to a magnetic field.Have you tried a stronger cylinder magnet for your piano?Jonny
@Synchro.Loved your vids of your spiral coil and your new experiments sound interesting.My laptop has decided not to open pdf's so I am not to sure what you are doing but I will rectify this asap.Happy xmas.Jonny

[synchro]

Dragone

I sandwiched a series connected 3" high, 300 turns of dual 28 gauge magnet wire aircore bifilar coil between 2 very powerfull 3 1/2" disk neo's in attraction. I am working on Leon's principles, and pulseing the coil in series with the battery and reed switch at 12 volts and 880 r.p.m.. Two counter balanced 1/4 inch neo disk trigger magnets handle the timing. I am captureing huge jumps in voltage gain through the split wires running from the coil to a diode and capacitor. The pulse width needs plenty of OFF time according to Leon, which I control with the position of the trigger magnets on the timing wheel. The ON time's around 20%, based on the ratio of the diameter of the trigger magnets to the circumfrence of the timing wheel.

The coil leaps when charged while placed over one of these disks, and while sanwiched, makes a small thumping noise. I'm really getting field compression now. The collapsing field is augmented by the magnt force, one powerfull side clapping down forcefully yet motionless, and together sending powerfull current back out from the dual purpose hi-voltage pulse output coil. I have two 1/8 inch thick circular copper plate spacers between the huge disk magnets and the pulse coil. These magnets are so powerfull, they adhere to each other through the copper spacers and the thickness of the coil. This is a a no monkey buisness set up, and more in line with Leon's work. The output appears to be really awesome at this point. Dragone had a name for this Dynamo, and claimed COP's of over 20 with it. This the finished design. A no frills generator. I'll try and loop it back to source and see if it charges the run battery like the magnet core output coil did with the spinning rotor. I'll post a video soon.

[synchro]

OU

Not counting the timer circuit power consumption, from a 4 pack of AA's to a small toy d.c. motor, the pulse output is charging the run battery looped back to source, just like it's magnet core spinner output sister coil did. Switch costs can be argued at this point, but the rise in run battery voltage looks to be alot greater.

I think this simple Dragone dynamo could win the Hartmann overunity prize with no problem. Next thing for me to do is to check for magnet cooling.

I realized that technically this magnet placement makes it more like a Floyd Sweet VTA configuration with roof and floor placement. Dragone's design uses an axially magnatized cylinder core. That makes it a VTA hybrid with Leon's simple circuit. A seperate tiny coil along side the main coil to power the switch. That's where the comparison stops. The Space Quantum Modulator circuitry is very elaborate, whereas Leon's is merely a simple arc switch.

A Stubblefield battery could spin the timer for free.

[synchro]

Dragone components video.

I posted a new video of the Dragone Dynamo components. The cathode of the diode goes to the posative side of the capacitor:

YouTube - zebok3's Channel

The output from the capacitor loops back to the run battery from the posative between the diode and capacitor and the negative of the capacitor directly to the posative and negative of the battery.

[synchro]

Dpdt

I plan to replace the single reed switch with a special order DPDT reed switch I have on hand and tested. I realized the existing circuit, wired as simply as it is, can inadvertantly charge the output loop with the power pulse directly. This has to lead to a false reading. By isolating the two circuits with the DPDT reed switch, the output circuit will be completely disconnected when the other side of the switch is closed to deliver the pulse. Only then can an uncontaminated output be measured with accuracy.

[synchro]

Spiral 2" bungee charger

I thought of a cool generator involving the 2 1/2 inch air core Quadfilar Spiral and the 2 inch Neo Sphere Magnet nested in the middle between several strong enough rubber bands. The massive 2 inch sphere neo has plenty of inertial strength to supply it a good bounce to the elastic support mesh.

The Spiral Coil with bungee magnet core can sit lashed to a couple of chop sticks, driven through the bottem section of a barrel shaped Quaker Oats container. I measured tremendous power from the spiral coil by just imparting small movement to this very powerfull magnet.

I see room for a magnetic shock absorber manufacturing sector with matching pressure magnetic repulsion tube generator coils. I plan to try and design one to replace a Nissan Leaf's for testing in a few months.

In the meantime we have the "Spiral knot Bungee Ball" generator to place on the floor or in the trunk.

Imagine a small tow trailer with crates of these things stacked on. What if the wheel hubs had an eliptic gear cam that would engage and make the trailer crates bounce up and down on an internal frame? This feature cold help slow the vehicle down and act as a secondary brake generator. This setup could be designed to fit inside the vehicle and help augment the fly wheel battery. Naturally these units would bounce on their own just from the natural uneveness of the road.

A recumbant bicycle with an electric induction motor could have a neo sphere bungy'd inside a spiral knot on gyroscope gimbles, so it can either spin upright on retractable lock pins when powered by downhill braking as a flywheel battery or bounce on the straight away, simply by turning the knot 90 degrees on it's axis to select the mode of operation. This could work dual purposed this way in a motor vehicle too. This needs to tie into a dry cell battery, and would constitue 2 batteries and an elastic bounceing generator all rolled into one. Two Spiral coils on the perpendiclar would reduce the mechanisem to merely rotating the gimble alone to change from storage battery to oscillating generator. I think it would work without the adjustment with the two hemi Spirals.

[synchro]

Magnetic shock absorber flywheel battery.

This just turned into a great idea. The magnetic shock absorber will have output coils that have shake battery magnet cylinders. Axial polarized magnet plugs could be coupled to diametrics, and could spin as flywheel batteries pulsed by the recovery coils, from regenerative breaking power.

I remember a brake recovery system that involved a levitating flywheel magnet rotor cylinder attached to the wheel hubs through the axel shafts. It caused major problems, related to steering, but alot of reaserch money was invested in the project. The Magnetic Shock Absorber weds the two systems into a dual purpose unit contained within the four shock absorbers, not the wheel hubs.

Here again we see a single magnet Bedini theme resurface through all these meanderings. Thanks to Jonnydavro for allowing us this broad a latitude.

[twinbeard]

FlowerPower Update

Hi All,

New FlowerPower device video and info here:
YouTube - December 2010 Pirate Broadcast Show

Cheers,
Twinbeard

[synchro]

DPDT Dragone

The DPDT switch has 6 contacts. The two in the center run to the battery, and the other 4 constitute simply two on off switchs. This is a current reversing switch. I believe the Bedini Cole circuit does it with solid state components.

I shorted the two battery electrodes, and ran the battery in series through the two ends of one side of the switch. The other side has the charge cap in series with the coil. This generates the clean arc switch square wave flip flop Leon felt was critical. I had to scale up the trigger magnets to 3/4 inch neo tubes. This DPDT is a large industrial motor switch that delivers alot of power. The Magnet Pump coil responds audibly to to the pulses. Two singular pulses can be heard from the switch as the powerfull 3/4 inch trigger neos are drawn near. Power appears in the charge cap in regular increments with each pulse. The coil generates no power whatsoever when pulsed with no magnets in place while wired this way.

This output is not BEMF. The power pulse has gone and left the coil clean. It would be possible to recover the BEMF with a secondary. That kind of BEMF recovery is instantaneous, and would appear as output when pulsed with no magnets if it was present. I purchased matching capacitors to test for input to output ratio, but they proved too small; However, this experiment seems to prove at least that the magnets help generate the electric power.

I posted a new video now that I have it working this well. It's stormy, please forgive the poor lighting.

YouTube - zebok3's Channel

[synchro]

2nd clip

I added some spacers and uploaded a better lighted short segment. I tested the coil again imediately after removing the huge magnets, and it began to generate even more power then it did with the magnets attached. Last time I tested the coil alone, it showed hardly any charging but that was after sitting overnight with the magnets removed. This is not first time the Tesla serial wound coil seems to have taken on a life of its own. The winding can store a charge as a capacitor, and I think based on these few experiments that it may have the capability of retaining and storing it's own magntic field as well. The pulse is sub hertz. It needs to sync with the natural oscillating frequency of magnatisem at 200hz, or 12,000 r.p.m for the timing to reach resonance and maximum output. Proper spacing for coil strength and magnet force balance is critical.

It looks as though it may be possible to magnatize the hi-voltage coil itself, and use it as pump alone.

YouTube - zebok3's Channel

[synchro]

Shock charged spring dampener.

The Flywheel battery magnetic repulsion shock absorber can Dragone pulse the magnets at red lights for a third generating feature.

[twinbeard]

FlowerPower v2

Hi All,

I have made another FlowerPower device... a few changes tot he configuration.
Some video of it is in this month's Pirate Broadcast Show:
YouTube - March 2011 Pirate Broadcast Show

Cheers,
Twinbeard

[raadel]

You can do fun things with the coil Bedini.
Look at this link:

YouTube - Motor Bedini, fácil y divertido - Bedini Motor, easy and fun

Thanks to all

[h4y6d2e]

i'm new here but work with magnets quite a bit... i have a question i am hoping someone can answer.

a few years ago i saw the Depew videos - the one's we've all seen. my question isn't how they work - but what exactly he made the spinning tops from?

does anyone recognize what they are made from/of? can someone post some pics/instructions on making one? is Depew machining them himself or making them out of specific parts?