One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

[JohnnBlade]

Hi All,

i know its off subject, but here is my version of my CFL light
im already using it as an night/mood light

@Lidmotor, and others, Thank you for the inspiration
YouTube - Lighting up CFL fluorescent light with disposeable camera from 1 x 1.5v AA battery part 3 JB

i have already tested the saturn sphere, and its a nice to look at
but ill keep on testing

Greets JB

[JohnnBlade]

@JonnDavro, Lidmotor -

With all my Respects, just an experiment, is it possible for you to show me how much voltage or amps you can get of an receiving coil, without any circuit connected to it
purely the most millivoltage or more purely from any coil that you have
with any magnet


(my biggest sphere, and bigger then the core does not produce as much voltage/amps as a sphere that is almost the size of the core of the coil)


Greets JB

[jonnydavro]

Hi all.Been away on my hols but i am back refreshed now but with a bit of catching up to do with whats been going on here at energetic forum as there are some great threads here at the moment
At first glance,Lidmotor has done some neat stuff with his hall sensor motor and i would love to know how the rpms compare with a transistor ie can the same high speed be obtained?I have some hall effects so i may explore that aspect if lid does not have that info.
@Xenomorph.Regarding the coil resonance.The one magnet Bedini is the only bedini motor i know off which runs best as a motor with such high Base resistance.My 6mm sphere motor can run fast at 101100 ohms.Max Speed was probably between 90000ohms-100000ohms and minamum amp draw, still with high speed-101100ohms.The fact that the coil is in resonance and the 6mm sphere is spinning so fast tells me that the small sphere is spinning in sync with the coil without triggering being necessary.The circuit does not even know the sphere is there.This is radically different to standard Bedini motor operation but with the use of such high base resistances comes an upside and a down side.The upside is the current draw of the motor is miniscule for the rpm's which we can achieve but with this reduced current draw comes the downside with the charging as the coil will not be energised to the same level if a higher current was flowing so the result is a smaller collapsing magnetic field so smaller spike but this is happening a lot faster so you will get more of them all be it smaller.These are just my thoughts so don't take it as gospel as i don't have a scope and i have not tried charging 12v batteries and load testing them so the charging problem is news to me but if so,it may be or maybe not due to the above.
Did we get resonance with a darlington like a TIP 120?I can't remember.
If charging is your goal and i see that you have eliminated the resonance via coil design so if it charges and spins good,thats great but if you still have no joy,maybe a one magnet bedini motor built around a proven solid state charger design could be the answer.I think Jetis and theremart have both built good ones and i see no reason why 6mm sphere's would not spin on one of these.
@Jonnyblade.I see you have got some new magnets so i expect you will be busy building your next motor and i hope you carry on using your own circuits as this is where interesting things are found.
Regarding your pickup coil question.If you look back in the posts,both I and xeno have posted pickup coil outputs but this was loading a cap up.You want to know what the output is accross a 1ohm resistor.I will try and do this for you soon but i am setup at the moment doing a test off an idea Electricme from OU had which from what i can gather,resulted in a self running Bedini motor.It is quite an interesting idea and his post is here if anyone's interested.Regards jonny
Jule Thief

[JohnnBlade]

Hi All,

@JonnDavro: Thnx, only thing i changed in my circuit
is using the caps from a disposeable camera, and from the circuit of a CFL - Greets JB


@All,

ive been doing some small new tests, and i still have to upload more vids
but here are the latest 2 vids,

here im using a bigger sphere 8mm, the 9mm was givin a little less voltage
then the 8mm, but atleast i got a new personal voltage record 66v
YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor different setups 66v N38 8mm sphere part 1

and in this vid, im doing the test Like JonnDavro
a big rotor, with the satelites, but nnow my satelite is using its own tube
and it can still produce more voltage then i thought with setup
YouTube - One magnet No Bearing Bedini motor different setups Big Rotor With Satelites in coil tube part 2

i still have to upload some other vids, but my internet keeps on loosing connections
in the other vids i do the Saturn bedini with satelite sphere test, and the double spinning sphere's, and 2 tubes above eachother
and im considering covering and filming when i use the big rotor and the slowly add ferrofluid to it

thnx

Greets JB

[synchro]

Mach magnet speed at low amp resonance.

@Jonnydavro. I think your last video on the low amp high speed magnet test needs to be looked at more closely. You demonstrate clearly the suspension of the second law of thermodynamics in your experiment. I believe you are basicly accelerating the magnet on what amounts to radio waves. This discovery is awesome and groundbreaking. It makes no sense to waste power to accelerate the spinning magnet when it picks speed up magically on what amounts to broadcast energy. The power equation reverses itself when Hi frequency power reaches broadcast strength. The signal from your resonating coil has nearly infinite power and could be detected from all points in the universe over the course of time. Coverting this power into physical momentum as you do with your spinning magnet is an accomplishment of high historic significance. Resistence has virtually disappeared but the magnet is somehow getting traction from a hi voltage signal that just passes right through practically evrything else. Just what is really going on between the coil and the magnet may take decades of hard science to determine. Low back spike from Low amp draw is not a liability when the spinning magnet has the potential of generating perhaps thousands of times the input. You sounded pretty excited about wiring output coils to your setup, it appeared like you were on the verge of makeing Earth shaking energy history, I wonder if the consideration of the heavy social and economic consequences of that kind of success has weighted you down? You are the Atlas of Earth's free energy future. Don't loose sight of the awsome nature and importance of your mission, and the true value of your recent accomplishment. I'm hoping you'll retrench and forge ahead toward astounding success.

[Jaco]

Excited Newb have some questions

Hi Guys.

I've been reading up about bedini motors/chargers for almost a year and when I saw this I knew I had too start. I did my first one last weekend from a pc fan and its working ok'ish.

For this project though, I only have magnets for the wheel which I bought a year ago. Is there any way that I would be able to do this experiment with these other box magnets, since it appears that the spike is generated due to the alternating magnetic poles. If i can thus get the magnet to spin around its own axis, it should, in theory, work? Is the egg magnets the same thing in a housing or just an egg shaped magnet? (no need to argue about getting it centered, being dangerous ...)


If this is possible, I should be able to 'attach' two magnets to each other, side by side and and thus have a pulse on every rotation.

My other option is to use an old power supply fan, with the blades removed, as it is basically a circular magnet, with alternating poles.
I'll then have a perfectly balanced magnet with its own much smaller shaft to rotate on.
I know this is a weak magnet, but since I'm not going to spin up satellites should it not work? I'm especially interested in keeping the shaft, for another idea I'm brooding on, but need this one to work first.

I cannot afford new magnets as I am currently between jobs, so I'm trying to find alternatives with what I have.

Thank you all for the results, errors and vids. Without it this bug would not ever have caught me.

Ciao

Jaco

[el-tigre]

Hi Guys.


If this is possible, I should be able to 'attach' two magnets to each other, side by side and and thus have a pulse on every rotation.

Jaco

Hey Jaco, welcome aboard... If you want to build a Bedini top, start reading at post 117 on this thread and see the pictures etc. to see how to do it with rectangular magnets.

Good luck

[Bodkins]

important info

Secordary wire to be 144in lenght with a 22.5mm inch, we have been mislead about the lenght of the inch the primary needs to be the same weight as the secordary.
weights and linear dimensions are interchangeable the being said everthin goes!
185000 miles per second (speed of traversing currents) / 925 (frequency of circuit) = 200 miles (length of
stationary wave) X ¼ = 50 miles (length of secondary coil)
Play around with this formula until you have a secondary length of 144 inches. 144 inches should be based on a
22.5 mm inch.
144 inches = 0.227272727 miles (repeating sequences like these are important)
The number 144 is important because it forms a harmonic with 432. 432:144 = 3:1. 432 is the square root of
the speed of light, 186624.
why 24 mm can’t be used. Have a look at the following.
First Octave
1080 mm / 48 = 22.5 mm
1080 mm / 45 = 24 mm
1080 mm / 42 = 25.714286 mm
Second Octave
3240 mm / 48 = 67.5 mm
3240 mm / 45 = 72 mm
3240 mm / 42 = 77.142857 mm
1080 / 144 = 7.5 – This is no good as there is nothing in the octave first octave corresponding to this number.
3240 / 144 = 22.5 – Here it can be seen that by dividing the root of the second octave by the number
representing our wire length, we get a number which corresponds or resonates on the first octave. The
investigator should at this point
begin to understand that the energy we are trying to get in tune with is on
the second octave, and we must resonate with it on the first.

good luck
B X

[geminitric]

jumping into Bedini one-magnet discussion

Hello all,

First off - I am very happy and excited to find you all here, as I initially found this topic on YouTube and then to discover that you have expanded your discussions from there to here is wonderful. Look me up on youtube to see my 'contributions' to the bedini ssg and neodymium sphere experiments. I learned from you all - JD, lidmotor, seph, JB, and more, and I thank you for that.

I have seen the same behaviour with my haphazard SSG circuit and coil as that which is described here, the most notable of which are:

i) Resonance at high base resistance, incl. neon staying lit after power disconnected. With a 30K,5W power resistor my circuit hums and stays lit - the magnet will not spin at all, and I have to shut it down quickly because my transistor gets super hot.

ii) Higher RPMs on the magnet equate to lower charge on the capacitor.

iii) Higher input (source) voltage can make the motor/magnet "self-start" (not require a spin to get going).

iv) Adding a second coil on the B1/B2 output lines dramatically increases the charging voltage and the RPMs. Note - I don't have an ammeter so cannot determine the effect on Amp draw.

v) Rodin Coils have interesting effects when used in this device. I am still testing and cataloging these effects, and I may have inspired some others to experiment along these lines as well.

vi) Neodymium sphere magnets are frikkin' fun.

Please note that I did not wind my primary coil myself, I used the leftover from a bifilar spool I bought to create my Rodin Coils with. I was pleasantly surprised when it worked, and I believe it when Bedini says that the size and windings don't *really* matter - it's all the pieces together that matter.

Cheers, and thanks!

- Michael / Geminitric

**it is self-limiting to believe that everything you see is everything that is**

[JohnnBlade]

Hello all,

First off - I am very happy and excited to find you all here, as I initially found this topic on YouTube and then to discover that you have expanded your discussions from there to here is wonderful. Look me up on youtube to see my 'contributions' to the bedini ssg and neodymium sphere experiments. I learned from you all - JD, lidmotor, seph, JB, and more, and I thank you for that.

I have seen the same behaviour with my haphazard SSG circuit and coil as that which is described here, the most notable of which are:

i) Resonance at high base resistance, incl. neon staying lit after power disconnected. With a 30K,5W power resistor my circuit hums and stays lit - the magnet will not spin at all, and I have to shut it down quickly because my transistor gets super hot.

ii) Higher RPMs on the magnet equate to lower charge on the capacitor.

iii) Higher input (source) voltage can make the motor/magnet "self-start" (not require a spin to get going).

iv) Adding a second coil on the B1/B2 output lines dramatically increases the charging voltage and the RPMs. Note - I don't have an ammeter so cannot determine the effect on Amp draw.

v) Rodin Coils have interesting effects when used in this device. I am still testing and cataloging these effects, and I may have inspired some others to experiment along these lines as well.

vi) Neodymium sphere magnets are frikkin' fun.

Please note that I did not wind my primary coil myself, I used the leftover from a bifilar spool I bought to create my Rodin Coils with. I was pleasantly surprised when it worked, and I believe it when Bedini says that the size and windings don't *really* matter - it's all the pieces together that matter.

Cheers, and thanks!

- Michael / Geminitric

**it is self-limiting to believe that everything you see is everything that is**

Just wanted to you to know that your doing great work
Keep it up

Greets JB

[Vortex]

New Twist

Rodin coil is unaffected by satellite magnets,
drawing NO additional current to run 3 satellites.
See video at link http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=4587
The 1st "rodin coil" displayed in the video above does not appear to be wound
correctly, it is without empty spaces.

Please NOTE: the author of the video below has an instructional video which
is WRONG on how to wind the Rodin coil.
bedini ssg with rodin coil gives 250% boost
The author above has other "rodin coils" which are not correctly wonnd
Rodin coils.

[geminitric]

The 1st "rodin coil" displayed in the video above does not appear to be wound correctly, it is without empty spaces.

Just fyi - there is an equal amount of 'space' on that coil as there is on any other. The wires are not wound tightly against each other leaving a large gap at the end - the gaps appear between each wind of wire. Hence the appearance of no space, but in actual fact it has the same division into thirds as the other styles.

(edit - rest moved to Marko Rodin thread)

[Vortex]

Just fyi - there is an equal amount of 'space' on that coil as there is on any other. The wires are not wound tightly against each other leaving a large gap at the end - the gaps appear between each wind of wire. Hence the appearance of no space, but in actual fact it has the same division into thirds as the other styles.

(edit - rest moved to Marko Rodin thread)

You are probably correct and that would not be a Rodin Coil.
There's two wires: "A" & "B"
3 sets of pins, 12 in each set for a total of 36 pins can be used to lay out the winding of wires "A" and "B".
Each wire is wound separately.
Wire "A" is wound around the 1st set of 12 pins.
Wire "B" is wound around the 2nd set of 12 pins.
Wire "C" does not exist, the 3rd set of 12 pins is Empty space.

"A" and "B" are not wound at the same time.

"No appearance of space" means it IS WOUND WRONG.
The Rodin coil design requires the EMPTY space of the 3rd set that
creates a space for the flux fields to interact.

[CosmicFarmer]

Hello Friends

I just decided to pop in and ask... has anyone tried a Hamel spinner design ontop of the 1magnet rotor?

Bedini version of Hamel Spinner

If the hamel spinner sets up magnetic vortex to assist the spin of the magnet alone, then wouldn't that be a good thing to add to this? The only thing I can think of that might not work for this use would be the rotor magnet might spin too fast for the magnetic vortex to catch up. How fast do magnetic vortex's spin anyway? Lol who knows


Aside from that, I got to japan safely and unpacked my lab to find out my bifilar had shorts. I used nail polish to insulate the nicks in the magnetic wire and found out to my dismay that nail polish acts like a paintable resistor! about 1mm of nail polish equals 1 megOhm about. There was about 5 or 6 different types of aluminum powder in it... Really dissapointing for me, so I am rewinding the beast. Every layer (about 40 wraps) gets a plastic insulating layer, and now hot glue is my insulator if choice. This is the 3rd time I have rewound this coil. If it has a short after this I'm going to cry

Anyway my trifilar still works and I am planning on using that somehow. I will start a marathon once the beast is done being wound. Got some solar panels from GADGETMALL that were about 600% cheaper per watt then "The (radio) Shack". I cant wait.

Allright talk to yall later.

[jonnydavro]

Hi.After watching Lidmotors latest vid showing his motor running wirelessly,using his version of Dr Stifflers SEC,i thought i would try but using a different approach.I have long been fascinated by plasma globes and i am convinced that there is a lot more to these than it just being a fancy capasitor with the centre ball being one plate and the glass being the other and i have seen some strange sec like effects using plasma globes and i have not quite got my head round Dr Stifflers sec but I am slowly aquiring the parts as it looks great,anyway i found out that you can harvest quite a lot of energy from the air around a plasma globe and i tried it on the one magnet Bedini and it spins great.
This is how i did it.I placed some aluminium trays and a bit of tin foil as i ran out of trays around the plasma globe and fed the energy collected from the air,through a coil in series and then into a bridge rectifier ac input.I had a wire from my earthed kitchen sink going to the rectifiers other ac input.I also had a large cap attached to one of the trays which simulates me holding the tray which increases the voltage on the 1000uf run cap which is charged from the rectifier.The omnbb is then conected to the cap and of it goes.
I first ran the plasma globe from a 12v adapter and it worked great.I then removed that and used a 12v car battery and the results were the same.
I think this could be refined and someone with some knowledge of ariels may be able to help here.Here is a vid of it running.

YouTube - Wireless One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

@Synchro.Thanks for your kind comments and i share your exitement about the 6mm sphere motor.What i find realy interesting is that when it is running at full throttle,about 4-5mA,If i remove the sphere,the circuit still draws 4-5mA as it is in self oscilation as the base resistance is 101100ohms so is the spin for free?
I have continued to work on this motor and have found a few more interesting things which i hope to develop and will share as i work through them.
With regards to Marko Rodin.His Coil does seem to do some strange stuff with the monopoles and such and was blown away with his use off satellites and cylinder magnets.Do you think he has had a peek at what we are up to?
@geminitric.Welcome.I found your vids fascinating and i think you need to do a sound analysis of the rpms you are getting with your 1" sphere as they sound insane for such a large magnet.I hope to replicate your work but i will need some help with the coil winding etc.
Regards jonny