Bedini's "Free Energy Generation" machine aka "1984" aka "Watson"

[baroutologos]

Today, i understood why Mr Bedini utilizes a heavy flywheel in his FEG.

It has nothing to do with energy extraction from gravity or such as far as my observations conclude.

It has to do with motion smooting via vibrations elimination. We have discussed earlier that Bedini's FEG has all coils in phase. That means simultaneously all coils face magnets which result in moments of great rotor stress leading to inevitable vibrations, leading in turn to bearings stress, friction and noise.

Flywheel addition, is a clever move to eliminate those side effects.

Regards,
Baroutologos

[nvisser]

The flywheel does smooth it all out. The faster the better

[darkwizard]

Read the comments posted by Bedini, Read free energy generation book, a piece of cake

[baroutologos]

i do not think its a piece of cake the successful setup of FEG.

I have the firm belief that the vast majority of FEG replicators had never attained OU.
Again i think, the 1984 handbook is not sufficient in making it right if instructions are followed blindly.

i ask.

Have you made it as claimed? i.e self runner? If so, will you get in the trouble of alluminate all the rest of us?

Regards,
Baroutologos

[baroutologos]

Hi @ all.

I know i talk more than i make, but resources are scarce whereas reading and ralking is cheap. :P By the way, my work in progress towards FEG-SSG motor projects can be encapsulated in those photos

Regards,
Baroutologos

[nvisser]

Very nice!
I see 6 magnets. Are you not going to try 7 magnets with 6 coils like in the wind generators to reduce drag? Somebody mentioned it on this thread.
What is the wheels made of and do they also act as the flywheel?
They keep me so busy at work that I got no time. Even working the whole weekend. Busy installing the card readers at the staduims for the big soccer that is coming.
My new coils are finished . I need to build the diode plug circuit to test the concept and extract part of the resonance. If that does not work I think I have to go to the Tri filar coils and the read switch method.
Is this the way to make the coils? Found it somewhere and tested a coil like that. It does work like that.

[elias]

Hi everyone,

I am in the process of building a Muller/Bedini/Adams/Watson Hybrid, and I am hoping to get good amount of energy out of it. My initial tests were not so bad, but I need to test with more coils and different configurations. I managed to charge a 10000uF cap upto 25 volts in 5 secs, which means around 0.6W of energy, the same setup charged a 220uF cap upto 300V in 15 seconds. My machine is using around 6W for its input and is spinning at 2000RPM. It didn't seem to put much drag on my motor yet but yet I am not so sure if I could add around 10 such coils and achieve self running. I need to experiment with different coils and different switching positions. I currently seem to be getting the maximum output when the magnet is leaving my coil.

I suppose that the energy output increases considerably as my RPM increases. I have to increase my RPMs upto 3000-4000 by using higher voltage on the input and adding one more coils to make it three.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Elias

[baroutologos]

@ nVISSER,

I mentioned it the odd-even numbers of magnets stator coils. and yes i will try 5 coils for 6 magnets.
Note that the energizer part is composed of Nd 1'' double stacked magnets that have an very good (put it mildy) attractive force.

This way i can afford having my cores 1cm away from magnets with quite good results at electricity generation. (no solid data measured so far)

By the way, my whole project has stall in the SSG pulse motor section. Whereas the radial design with rectangular magnets is quite good at speed/torque etc the axial one seems defficient. Trying...


If proggress made,
I will post it here.

Regards,
Baroutologos

[nvisser]

Hi Elias
The Muller/Bedini/Adams/Watson Hybrid surely sound very impressive and with all that techniques involved can only be a success.
I haven’t studied Adams or even read about Muller yet.
Please post some photos and explanations in how you are attracting the energy from the coils and what type of switching you use. If we know more about your setup we can try to give some suggestions.
Regards
Vissie

[cody]

This is turning out to be an interesting thread, i hope some videos come up soon of everyones work. From playing with the generator coils a bit i have some things that yall might look into and play with. I noticed a relation between the coil output and drag on the motor from varying the capacitance. I didnt show that on my video, but i was shorting the coil through a capacitor to get my best results. However that was at low speeds, im sure no capacitor would be necessary at high rpms, however i think switch duration is going to be critical. I believe these coils have saturation points just like regular motor coils, so there should be a specific shorting switch duration or frequency which will give you max output with least drag. It may work good with a 555 circuit to chop the pulse up. If you have been following jetijs's work you know what im talking about. When i get some time ill get back to work on my latest motor to help contribute here. Keep up the great work everyone!

[nvisser]

Hi Cody
I would like to know what you think the best method is to extract the energy from this type of generator? Resonance with the diode plug method like in the trans/roto- verter method that we all know works or by using the method that you suggest in your video. It seems like nobody knows or do not want to tell as soon as they know
Vissie

[cody]

hi nvisser,
I think your right, most dont know and the ones that do arnt saying. Personally, when i get back to work on it, im going to start by trying to figure out how to hook up my o-scope to my generator coils to view the current waveform. More info on that can be found in peters electric motor secrets thread. So by doing this you should be able to view the current rising in the coil when it is shorted. If the waveform plateaus then you will know that the switch duration is to long and the core cant saturate any further and you are wasting energy and putting unnecessary drag on the drive motor. I believe your right about resonance, but to understand how to get to that resonant frequency you will probably have to understand about the cores saturation point and how to set up the switch to not oversaturate. With that said, my best suggestion would be to just get in there and play with the thing and do whatever you feel like to get a feel for it. Good luck

[nvisser]

Thanks Cody
I will look into peters electric motor secrets. A lot of pages to read!
Is there any pages of importance that you know of that describes this current waveform measurement that you are talking about?
Vissie

[baroutologos]

Hello all,

I put together my SSG-FEG combo and test it. I must admit its a failure..

With 40 volts and 3 axial coils max out 1100 rpm only with the finest lubrication.
I intended at achieving some 3000 rmp. Not such luck tho
For others to know, axial SSG is MUCH more defficient than radial in terms of speed/torque. Anyway, ssg does not fit the purpose as originally thought.

I am dissapointed.
Nevertheless, i will pursue the FEG cause with pulsed permanent magnet motor or rotorverter.

Can anyone suggests a source for high torque permanent magnet motors for FEg?
Or rotoverter. Have anyone experience from such units?


Regards,
Baroutologos

[baroutologos]

@ nVISSER

I have put myself together and made some experiments in my Perepiteia-FEG setup. The results can be viewed at Thane Heins Perepiteia Replications

Sorry for that :P ( posting to a rival forum)

@ The fellow FEG pursuers.

I do not think FEG has something unsual in contrast to Adam's motor or Mueller alternators or Hein's regenarative accelaration geny.

You can view my findings from initial experiments there and under a different light from Bedini's more or less mystical explainations to try to understand what is happening to thoses genys.

regards,
Baroutologos