Bedini's "Free Energy Generation" machine aka "1984" aka "Watson"

[sinergicus]

More about coils design

Hi guys ;I am interested too in building an Watson Machine;or some improved variant of this


I am working on my version of Ossie Callanan radiant energy circuit, with big red switch that I made my self ....no need big fly well like in jim watson unit, no need energizer;The power coils in conjunction with red switch will oscillate
like in Ossie Callanan circuit and so, will vary the impedance very many times per second and this will bring radiant energy in circuit to be collected more efficient...also, at the shaft you can put an auxiliary energizer or lenz less generator like in totalyamped site ...this will be in the same time an flywheel
if you want. http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/ SkyWatcher had mentioned this already .
at page 10 ;simple coil design lenz less drag , with explanations... practical stuff not just theoretical ;seems this guy had tried all this and the coils design
is working...

Instead an second battery to be charged, I am using an capacitor (1000 microfarad at 200 volts to be timed and dumped back in primary battery like in Jim Watson unit,using an relay at 12 volts ...

My problem is:my relay contacts will weld when that cap is discharged across my 45 amp our 12 v car battery (the battery is disconnected from the circuit in that moment)
I am not fully charging the cap;just at around 100 volts...

My relay what I have is double pole double throw with 2 moving arms with 2 contacts each arm (like common double pole double throw relay ).So we have 4 moving contacts on 2 moving arms( 2+2).So is a many contacts relay or an DOUBLE double pole double throw so to speak...

I connected these contacts in parallel to have bigger surface area to dissipate the condenser energy (4 mm diameter each contact ,in parallel will have 8 mm diameter surface to reducing the charge on every contact .The no moving contacts are connected the same in parallel.

The relay is activated ,at every 4-5 second to dump the charge...

How I say , in spite of the bigger surface area of the contacts one or other will weld....

What Kind of relay Jim Watson was used ?

How to eliminate this problem?In what kind of industry must search to find the proper relay to be resistant and not weld...

Mike

[nvisser]

You could use an scr triggered by the relay or commutator.
Just replace the ne2 with your switch

[john_g]

That's a great idea John. I will have to look into that. I will be searching junk yards starting tomorrow!

Right now I will be using Matt Jones' simple Motor to drive the device. I built a stand alone unit and Matt has been helping me to get it running correctly, although I still have a ways to go on that score. I took it apart this afternoon and am in the process of assembling it on the shaft of my Watson device. I have two coils, but I am thinking of waiting until the wire I ordered comes in so I can wind my coils like Matt said I should have in the first place. So hopefully in the next few days I will have it running. I have the motor on the shaft already and all I have to do is bolt down the coils and it will be ready to wire up and give it a go. Probably sometime early next week depending on when my wire gets here. I may need three or more coils to move the amount of weight I have on my shaft, although once you get it going it goes great.

Turion

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Regards
John

[sinergicus]

SCR parameter

You could use an scr triggered by the relay or commutator.
Just replace the ne2 with your switch

Thank you for your suggestion;I thought about this .I suppose the scr must be an high amp scr .The discharging the 1000 microfarad 200 v cap (at 100 V) across the battery is very powerful and the amperage going through scr will attain big value...and the high amp scr is very expensive (for me)

I don,t have too much experience in electronics;maybe you can give me some
specs about this kind of scr's and some models we can find on the market..

Thanks
Mike

[nvisser]

Try TYN612. They are very cheap.
Go google the datasheet. It will give you the pinouts. It is spec. 600V , 12A. If you pulse it , it will handle much higher current.
It is maybe not such a good idea to pulse 100V to a 12V battery.
I would rather use 24V pulses and not go more than 5 x battery voltage(60V) and pulse more frequently between drive motor pulses.
This is all speculation as I am still working on something similar but has not finished and tested it yet.

[Turion]

John,
Thanks for the link! I tried to buy it on E-Bay but the seller had something set up wrong and I was unable to. The good news is it gave me all the specs so I can find one for sale elsewhere.

Meanwhile, I will use the motor that Matt helped me build that runs on a circuit of his design. If it is not as successful as I'd like, that's ok, because I have the right size wire coming and will be building new coils for it as soon as the wire gets here. Hopefully I'll then be able to duplicate Matt's results.

I got my reed switches in the mail Saturday, so today I will be firing up my Watson device for the first time. I am not quite sure how to wire all my coils, but am going to connect them straight to the charge battery and see what happens. Hopefully nothing goes boom. I will have a gauge on the battery to monitor voltage so I don't overcharge with the sixteen coils I will have firing. If that doesn't seem to work I will hook them to a capacitor bank and then through a bridge rectifier to my charge battery. I will post video on my YouTube channel later today and post a link here. Will keep you all updated on the test results.

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You can either ask questions and look stupid or keep quiet and remain stupid.

[nvisser]

Hi Turion
What about using say a VW beetle dynamo and run it as a motor? It has wound fields and about 1/2 shaft. I got an old one the other day but one of the brushes is missing so haven't tried it.

Regards

John

Some facts about VW beetle dynamos
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[Turion]

Haven't been able to get my motor to power the Watson Device. Don't think I have enough coils to rotate the weight of the device. My wire has come in, so I will be winding more coils tomorrow and maybe then I can get it running. Sorry about that. Only have two coils and getting it properly "tuned" is a little tough when I can't get it running. But tomorrow is another day.

[saeed]

Free Energy generator

Dear All
in brief , is there a really free energy or overunity generator working well ?
if yes , is it available in the market ?
best regards

[boguslaw]

You could use an scr triggered by the relay or commutator.
Just replace the ne2 with your switch

Is this a proved way to discharge for example 1uF/400V cap ? How can I discharge such cap into battery using scr ?

[ourbobby]

Bedini FEG 1984

Hi guys,
Someone seems to have forgotten one of the important features of the FEG. That is, energy from the flywheel. As the battery is switched out, momentum allows the flywheel to continue pulsing through the coils. Charging the capacitor and then allowing this discharge to recharge the battery. John Bedini states that it required approximately five times the voltage of the battery fr this to work. The output from the FEG was Electrostatic. From the enegry contained in the momentum of the flywheel. This Electrostatic pulsing enables the capacitor to charge without current from the coils. Perhaps minimum current. Pulsing on the original FEG was at about 33%. Energy from thge flywheel was about 66%. This is the equation that demands some attention.

On a different note the Watson crib looks to have 12 coils and 13 magnets. IMHO, contrary to previous comments about magnets and coils opposing one another. Both methods will produce an output. Watsons will provide a more seamless output with a ripple The Bedini output will provide a definite pulsing action. IMHO, more suited to the task at hand - that is radiant charging of the capacitors.

Also important is the statement by John Bedini that Electrostaic charging of a Lead Acid battery is not harmful. This implies that the battery is being given a voltage potential with a limited amount of current. Too much current with the higher voltage will create heating problems within the battery - to be avoided.

The critical feature for the FEG, IMHO is matching of the switching and pulsing frequency, whether using one battery or two batteries switched. The power inherent in the FEG apparatus comes from tuning the flywheel rotation to the pulse oscillations. You then get the classic high Q minimum Z applicable to a resonant circuit. Remember too, That John Bedini believes that the power available through this techniques does not rely upon classical charge discharge methods generally thought to be the only way to use a battery.

Hope this helps

Rob

[nvisser]

A post by John Bedini himself

I want to re post this post from John Bedini here.
Lotsw of us tried different ways to make this machine working and i think the answer lies in the post below.
Non Linearity!!!
I do want to apply that to my old machine. Using 8 coils and 7 magnets.
He specificly spoke about that at the conference.

The watson Machine
Bit's,
I find nothing wrong in your work as I watched it work. I plan on making the machine that Watson did as Rick has said he is going to do this again.
Your good at your work as you have learned to take your time with things, excellent work in my book.

Also the lawnmower Rick had was a killer but nobody noticed the torque from that window motor running on one coil. I know you saw the coil that was equivalent to 5 gauge wire. The new Bedini/Cole switch is a killer as Rick pulled the front wheels right off the ground. Also the rotor in the machine was equivalent to ED's machine at the coral castle as I spoke of that machine in my talk. What is hidden to everybody is right in front of the eyes looking.Excellent work Jeff.

But this time we have 7 months to do it. I think I will make the whole Watson machine out of wood and change the geometry around. We will hook your battery swapper to it. Watson did not do anything special except use my 555 timer circuit and a starter button. Three things Controller switching and a non liner generator. Thanks Jeff for all your hard work and it did pay off.
John B

[wrtner]

Choosing a motor.

Should we avoid brushed DC motors? For some reason, i wonder
if the pulses will not be happy with them.

Are scooter motors a good starting point? (24v, 300watt, £20 delivered UK)
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[Turion]

As Peter has said, the motor should be one with a wound rotor and stator, so during off time there is no attraction between the rotor and stator to slow it down. A permanent magnet motor is NOT a good choice for this device.

[Zooty]

A Hall driven Window motor would be good for this