Need Help on 3 coil Bedini

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

I think you are right... 450 is very low and is most likely the problem... though remember having more windings on the trigger than the primary will have the effect of a step up transformer so ideally you would need to increase the power windings as well...

can't wait to see it going!

Here is the You tube url;

YouTube - MOV00956

[Peter Lindemann]

Great Work

Here is the You tube url;

YouTube - MOV00956

Dear Bits,

It looks like your model is working quite well, now. Congratulations! Keep up the great work.

Peter

[Mark]

GOOD JOB BITS, LOOKS GREAT!

[uusedman]

What kind of material did use for the rotor?

[selnet]

Mr Lindemann !
I read your usefull explainings about this theme; thank you for all of your helps
I would be very happy if I see the exact circuit of this 6 coil machine.Is the trigger winding at the top of the other
four windings in only one coil (to be the last fifth winding)? And which transistors and capacitors have you used?
I 'm about to buil a four coil system but yet I didn't have the result that I wished and I want to adapt this circuit
to my coils.The result I 'll send here Thanks in advance.

[nvisser]

Hi Peter
You mentioned that this 10 coiler draw 6 amps @24v
Can you give us any indication on what the output of this machine was and was it only used to charge batteries?

[Badger]

Great job, checking how it went

Success Guy's you are awesome. I changed the resistance as instructed by Peter, tuning one by one each transistor. Let me say that I am now down to about 3 amps "total draw" and have picked up RPM. I am going to implement further suggestions has time permits. I will be designing a method in which to "auto sense" two separate 24V battery banks that I use for my grid tie inverter and while being charged from this device, be able to "roll" the charging / load process. I built a data logger using a PICAXE 18x chip design for my wind gen's and will program this to monitor and log this process. Would it be safe to say that a cap should be installed on the outgoing charge terminals? If so, what should the uf and voltage rating be? I will provide more info on the finished product as I get to that point.

Thanks again

Bit's

Hi Bits,

I know its a while since you posted this message however I'm interested in the outcome and how many batterys can be charged of it.

Regards,
Badger

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi Bits,

I know its a while since you posted this message however I'm interested in the outcome and how many batterys can be charged of it.

Regards,
Badger

Indeed it's been a while since this post. Much has developed over this time. I have charged many batteries wiith this three coiler, but haven't stopped there. You might find interest in the 10 coiler thread or the many other discussions continuing with the great folks on this forum.

Bit's

[ZeropointEnergy]

Great 3 coiler set up

Hey Bits,

I just read the thread and seens the pics/youtube clip and is a
great design.

How are the improvements and modifications coming along
with the set up? and have you made the current draw more
efficient?

I'm going to make a 4 coiler as next SSG project with 2 triggers
and was thinking of using 8-10 transistors with AWG #22-23.
(have on hand)
Trigger will be #26 AWG (0.4mm)

After reading what Peter wrote about the difficulty with multiple
triggers I still want to see what I have learnt and looking forward
to the challenge of time the firing sequence.
Will be hours of watching 2 channels on the oscilloscope and moving
a coil slightly till correct phase and timing

Keep up the great work and thanks to all to posted here and
I will use all this amazing information to save time on my
upcoming 4 coiler.

Regards
Zero

[Bzar]

So let me get this straight....

To add more power coils to the bedini you just need 1 trigger? Does that mean every other coil except the master (trigger + power bifiler) is a single wire coil with rods in the middle?

Does each power coil add more RPM / Torque?

thanks.

[tachyoncatcher]

Could be

@Bzar,
I would put as many winding on a coil as possible. I have read of many different theories on coil winding. I just grabbed a group of wires the same length and wound them on a coil in parallel. I litzed my first trigger/power coil, 3 filar (3 wires). Then just wrapped the rest of my coils 5 filar, no litz. Each wire has its own transistor connected to that single trigger. Mount the transistors for each coil on the same heatsink or base plate. Use a good dielectric CONDUCTING grease between the trans and heatsink. Regular heatsink grease is non-conducting(don't use). This way you don't have to worry too much about one of the transistor taking all the abuse when a clip falls off the battery .
Yes, each coil adds power, torgue and RPM.
Good Luck!
Randy

[Bzar]

thanks for the reply tachyoncatcher.

Just to clarify before I buy some parts.....if I make a couple more 2 filar coils with awg 24 wire, and connect them as in this schem...
http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...achmentid=3023
space them and the magnets properly....I'd hopefully have a multi coil ssg?

cheers,

Great thread.

[tachyoncatcher]

You got it

Determine the best resistance value for your coil and battery you are charging, with your pot. Measure the resistance of that pot to determine the base resistance of the other coils. Add a 22 ohm resistor next to the pot. Also a grain of wheat bulb(12v 250-500ma). In serial, pot, 22 ohm resistor, grain of wheat bulb, then to other coil resistors as in the schem. Since your machine is horizontal, you can move the coil around for the best position, while running. Add one coil at a time.
I used a automotive, inductance timing light on the output of the primary coil to the charging battery. I can see the position of the magnets to the primary coil, while running, and just matched that up with the other coils to start my coil position tuning.
Good luck.
Randy

[Bzar]

right on, thanks for the tips. I'll post some pics and a vid once it's done
cheers.

[SHYMAN]

Bedini Charger with Ron Pugh point of view

I have used this forum very little, or any forum for that matter. I have a strong interest in building a machine similar to the Ron Pugh version of the Bedini charger. I also have an interest in the Adams Motor machine. (At this point...I believe in these two concepts. Tell me if I'm wrong!" ...is there something better?)

I go to this forum (and others) and find that the "serious" interest in both of these concepts happened 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, or more years ago. And for that matter all efforts seem to have been very feeble. Can I assume that throughout all these years that NOTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE has developed concerning these machines? Bottom line...are they a hoax?

It is an understatement to say that I'm a "newbie" but I have put hundreds of hours into evaluation of all matters relating to such concepts and the many many variables necessary before one can grasp the subtleties and possibilities inherent within these o/u (for lack of a better phrase) principles.

Should I be directing my interests in another direction? Is there a better concept that is replacing the Adams motor and Bedini charger. Be careful...everything seems to come back to the Adams principal.

I do have the capabilities to grasp whatever is out there, I am a "self-taught" mechanical and electrical engineer (I got paid for it for 25 years...now retired).

Is there anybody out there that can steer me in the right direction. I now have time to build and develop prototypes. But I want input from people smarter than I am. I want to build into something that has potential for advancement and success! And hey, I'm not dumb enough to think I'm going to get off the grid next week! Or anybody else for that matter.

I would like to hear from you!.

best regards,