Bedini 10-coil

[aussieaussieaussie]

10 coil Bits Setup Current specs

Hi Bits,

Dont take this the wrong way, I have read everything you have said and watched all you videos. I think your setup is great and you idea of many systems is the right way to go.

I justed wanted to know how many watts have you been able to take out of your complete system continuously (say into the grid tie inverter or a series of lights etc)
without seeing a drop in batt voltage in primary or charge batts?
(You know work!)

Are you also willing to speculate with further modification say the coils redone and a bigger batt bank what sort of output you may get in watts?

Many Thanks,

Ozy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi Bits,

Dont take this the wrong way, I have read everything you have said and watched all you videos. I think your setup is great and you idea of many systems is the right way to go.

I justed wanted to know how many watts have you been able to take out of your complete system continuously (say into the grid tie inverter or a series of lights etc)
without seeing a drop in batt voltage in primary or charge batts?
(You know work!)

Are you also willing to speculate with further modification say the coils redone and a bigger batt bank what sort of output you may get in watts?

Many Thanks,

Ozy

Ozy, do you have Skype (voice)? So you if I understand you, you are wanting to draw a load from the battery bank while having the 10 coiler maintain the battery voltage to a specific voltage, correct?

Jeff

[aussieaussieaussie]

Sorry no skype at this time...
Yes you are correct thats what I want to do, and I am just asking if you have done it and what were your average results????

Thanks,

ozy

[electricity]

question

sorry to offend you, but you still have not provided a simple answer.

I have a bank of 12v 928 ah or configured in 24v, 464 ah drained to 70%.

How long will it take to charge this bank with the 10 coil?.

If Radiant charge don't see battery capacity, will I get the same charge rate with a bank 10 times this size?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Sorry no skype at this time...
Yes you are correct thats what I want to do, and I am just asking if you have done it and what were your average results????

Thanks,

ozy

Ok, I now know what you are asking and yes I have done it. Don't do it. Here is the reason why. The drive batts will be drained do to transformer action of the coils. Have you heard of "Coupling"? When you draw current off of the batts being charged, you get a transfer coupling from the drive batts to the load batts. Best thing to do is only charge the load batts while NOT having a load on them, then switch them to go do a load.

[electricity]

Ok, I now know what you are asking and yes I have done it. Don't do it. Here is the reason why. The drive batts will be drained do to transformer action of the coils. Have you heard of "Coupling"? When you draw current off of the batts being charged, you get a transfer coupling from the drive batts to the load batts. Best thing to do is only charge the load batts while NOT having a load on them, then switch them to go do a load.

Ok, so it's best to only charge.

Then how long will it take to charge the batteries?.

What size bank etc, or my bank specs above.

[aussieaussieaussie]

so if you put another batt swapper on the charge end as well, so you were only charging the lowest batt and the AC load was been taken off the rest of the charge bank etc

have you done this and if so what where the results?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Ok, so it's best to only charge.

Then how long will it take to charge the batteries?.

What size bank etc, or my bank specs above.

Ok, so it's best to only charge. (Yes, only then will your batts respond to a charge)

Then how long will it take to charge the batteries? (This is a loaded question).

A fully charged 12V battery, should rest at about 12.5 volts and a fully discharged healthy battery should rest at 12.2. That said, and with the 10 coiler, I am able to recover the battery to a fully charged state in about 2 hrs. I am going to caveate this statement by saying "No 2 batts are the same" your results "Will" vary.

[aussieaussieaussie]

Also,
So are you saying that in the grid tie video what you did was incorrect??
You should of isolated that charge bank from the 10 coil before running the AC Inverter?
Are you saying that you were unable to run the AC inverter at 1/2 amp continuously like the video states???

Thanks

[electricity]

Ok, so it's best to only charge. (Yes, only then will your batts respond to a charge)

Then how long will it take to charge the batteries? (This is a loaded question).

A fully charged 12V battery, should rest at about 12.5 volts and a fully discharged healthy battery should rest at 12.2. That said, and with the 10 coiler, I am able to recover the battery to a fully charged state in about 2 hrs. I am going to caveate this statement by saying "No 2 batts are the same" your results "Will" vary.

please be more specific.

what was the amplicity of the battery that was charged in 2 hrs?.

each battery has it's own unique chemistry, true.

so give us full detail on your charged batteries.

What was the capacity of your bank, voltage.

Charge time, start voltage, end v.

this is important so that people will get a good idea of the monopole.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Also,
So are you saying that in the grid tie video what you did was incorrect??
You should of isolated that charge bank from the 10 coil before running the AC Inverter?
Are you saying that you were unable to run the AC inverter at 1/2 amp continuously like the video states???

Thanks

I was illustrating that you could run the 10 coiler is this manner to charge the battery bank that was then using a grid tie to supply a load to the house. The reason I devolped the battery swapper was to manage the process of switching the charge batts in and out of this load which amounts to a continuously feed grid tie. I hope that did become miss leading.

Jeff

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

please be more specific.

what was the amplicity of the battery that was charged in 2 hrs?.

each battery has it's own unique chemistry, true.

so give us full detail on your charged batteries.

What was the capacity of your bank, voltage.

Charge time, start voltage, end v.

this is important so that people will get a good idea of the monopole.

225Ah, now it is time that you go and experiment. You have all of the tools, setups, test scenairos, etc. You'll be able to answer all of your own questions.

[aussieaussieaussie]

Maybe its just electricity interjecting, but I thought this was a very simple question....

So you HAVE taken work from the complete system in the form of 1/2amp 110AC continuously without draining all the batts????

Do you speculate if you will be able to improve on this???
say with improved coils or bigger batts???

Its a simple question, and if correctly answered will get Rick a flood of 10 coil sales.

We all believe John and Rick we just want a forum guy to say yep I did it too so we can start going bigger then fan kits etc.

Your help will be greatly appreciated!

Ozy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Maybe its just electricity interjecting, but I thought this was a very simple question....

So you HAVE taken work from the complete system in the form of 1/2amp 110AC continuously without draining all the batts????

Do you speculate if you will be able to improve on this???
say with improved coils or bigger batts???

Its a simple question, and if correctly answered will get Rick a flood of 10 coil sales.

We all believe John and Rick we just want a forum guy to say yep I did it too so we can start going bigger then fan kits etc.

Your help will be greatly appreciated!

Ozy

The answer is yes. I use the 10 coiler to charge mulitple banks of batteries (Not at the same time) and move the grid tie between banks. I call this the "Duty cycle" of the battery bank. The grid tie that I am using (Albeit smalll) usually last about 6hrs with the banks I have. This is more than enough time for 10 coiler to recharge the discharged bank in prep for the next "duty cycle". Does this run my whole house, hell no, but it trims about $40.00 a month off of the electric bill. It's a start. As you know, I am involved in many projects so tesing time, fact gathering, etc. leaves me with limited figures. Together we will get there.

Jeff

[blackchisel97]

Maybe its just electricity interjecting, but I thought this was a very simple question....

So you HAVE taken work from the complete system in the form of 1/2amp 110AC continuously without draining all the batts????

Do you speculate if you will be able to improve on this???
say with improved coils or bigger batts???

Its a simple question, and if correctly answered will get Rick a flood of 10 coil sales.

We all believe John and Rick we just want a forum guy to say yep I did it too so we can start going bigger then fan kits etc.

Your help will be greatly appreciated!

Ozy

Hi Ozy,

I hope you don't mind me trying to clarify, It was my understanding that this was just one modified coil output measured at the time. If multiplied by number of coils and perhaps more ccw windings on each the output could be in 500W range (10 coils). This is the output from separate windings on each of 10/20/30 coils.

I hope I'm correct

Vtech