Bedini 10-coil

[Plazma]

Intent . . .

Sounds an interesting setup. I assume that ultimately you plan on using the 5,000 odd AH of batteries to power your house. Are you just planning on using the 10-coiler to maintain them and the solar panel to charge them via the Tesla switch ?

I'd be very interested in your results

Thanks

Greetings faramog,

Powering my house would be nice (some day) but that is not the primary intent at present. I have 2 and maybe 3 other projects that could benefit from longitudinal Tesla waves that could scale up (if PROVEN) to provide serious power sufficient to power a house. The 6400 amp hours of batteries I have is enough to provide 'excitation' for a much more powerful system, but not nearly enough to directly take a good-sized home with today's energy-hog devices in that home, off the grid, per se. The 10-coiler should provide a window into that higher-energy domain, and a very promissing window, but I do not expect it to be the determinant all by itself. Rather, a key piece in a cascade of interlocking parts or steps to a more evolved system. However, all POSITIVE surprises are most welcome!

The 10-coiler, I hope, will be a rich source of Tesla waves that I can apply to my other crazy schemes. The challenge at hand is to use the infrastructure now in place to learn the 10-coiler and apply it properly. As that effort progresses, I'll be sure to share the results, if any. And, thanks for a great question - hope my answer is not too disappointing.

Cheers,

Plazma

[Plazma]

Smoke gets in your eyes . . .

I don't have a 10 coil device...I built a 12 coil master/slave machine....I presently use a 60 watt pot in the trigger....I exceed the wattage rating of this pot at least two fold for very brief periods...I lost three of these things doing that, you think I would have learned my lesson after the second one went up in a cloud of smoke.....that tends to happen when you pump over 200 watts into this circuit.

I'm looking for 500watt 1K Ohm rheostats, I am also seeking 500watt 1K Ohm tandem rheostats. If anyone has a tip where I can locate either of these at a price that an unemployed man can pay...please PM me....

Regards

erfinder, thanks for the info. Let me get this straight - you 'smoked' a 60 watt pot in the trigger circuit?! WOW! No, 3 of them - I'd have probably blown a bushel basket full as stubborn as I am

I saw a tandem pot similar to what you've suggested on one of the surplus sights yesterday. Now that I have a tentative target, let me see if I can find that one as well as find a solution for my rig. Stay tuned . . .

Thanks,

Plazma

[iankoglin]

Koggs

Not be able to charge over 24.5 volts? That's not good at all. Can you charge them higher with a conventional charger?

G'Day Mark
When the primary needs Charging I use my 1- 24v solar setup with a normal solar charger to charge it up to 27.?volts
I use JB's 12 volt spanker to charge them also after reconfiguring them to 12volts they also charge rested about 25.7 - 26v it is a big job to alter the configuration each time I want to charge them.

Regards Kogs

[Plazma]

Elusive . . .

@erfinder . . .

Thought I had a candidate rheostat on a used components site - 400 ohm/300 watt but when I went back today it had been sold. Spent some time browsing Mouser Electronics - pretty expensive - found 500 ohm @ 100 watt and 750 ohm at 150 watt. A few at 200 ohm @100 watts, or so. Prices from $50-$80 but no tandem units. There were others but not in stock. Seems these units in general are a 'specialty' item for the bigger supply houses. I'll continue looking . . .

Plazma

[iankoglin]

@erfinder . . .

Thought I had a candidate rheostat on a used components site - 400 ohm/300 watt but when I went back today it had been sold. Spent some time browsing Mouser Electronics - pretty expensive - found 500 ohm @ 100 watt and 750 ohm at 150 watt. A few at 200 ohm @100 watts, or so. Prices from $50-$80 but no tandem units. There were others but not in stock. Seems these units in general are a 'specialty' item for the bigger supply houses. I'll continue looking . . .

Plazma

G'Day Plazma
I purchased 1 100ohm 50 watt Pot here for $28.00
"http://www.tedss.com/specSearch.asp?pn=R10050W38X12FWS&ct=Rheostat&em=y "

There is one here also "http://www.tedss.com/item.asp?id=2022003139"
another here "http://www.tedss.com/item.asp?id=2022003701"


Regards Kogs

[Plazma]

G'Day Plazma
I purchased 1 100ohm 50 watt Pot here for $28.00
"http://www.tedss.com/specSearch.asp?pn=R10050W38X12FWS&ct=Rheostat&em=y "

There is one here also "http://www.tedss.com/item.asp?id=2022003139"
another here "http://www.tedss.com/item.asp?id=2022003701"


Regards Kogs

Hi Kogs,

Lots of interesting items on the Tedss site - thanks for the link. Just after my earlier post I went ahead and ordered from Mouser. I get really fast delivery with standard UPS as they are just up the road from me in Dallas.

If the Mouser unit does not work out I will try the Tedss units - so, thanks again for the help.

All the Best,

Plazma

PS - Taking a 10-coiler break at the moment . . . what a stinker to work on . . . too many thumbs and biggerer fingers to get into all the nooks and crannies.

[Plazma]

Build Continues . . .

Too many XMas Treats . . . Time for penance. So, what's left . . . ah yes, the trigger circuit. Finished terminating all of the coil groups to the + Buss Bar yesterday and to the circuit boards. The Dremel/diamond tool combo was superb in stripping the coil ends - just terrific! Rest of the necessary SS screws to finish the assembly should be in today (I hope) so this week we'll start checkout and testing albeit on smaller batteries before tackling the big ones. Should be interesting (if not a bit scary).

Cheers,

Plazma

[faramog]

Not at all Plazma... just interested. There are no short cuts but there are things to learn to avaoid the same errors.

Certainly having some interesting results looking at power into my system vs the power I am getting out. But need to build a couple more gadgets to dig further.

Thanks for the reply
G

Greetings faramog,

Powering my house would be nice (some day) but that is not the primary intent at present. I have 2 and maybe 3 other projects that could benefit from longitudinal Tesla waves that could scale up (if PROVEN) to provide serious power sufficient to power a house. The 6400 amp hours of batteries I have is enough to provide 'excitation' for a much more powerful system, but not nearly enough to directly take a good-sized home with today's energy-hog devices in that home, off the grid, per se. The 10-coiler should provide a window into that higher-energy domain, and a very promissing window, but I do not expect it to be the determinant all by itself. Rather, a key piece in a cascade of interlocking parts or steps to a more evolved system. However, all POSITIVE surprises are most welcome!

The 10-coiler, I hope, will be a rich source of Tesla waves that I can apply to my other crazy schemes. The challenge at hand is to use the infrastructure now in place to learn the 10-coiler and apply it properly. As that effort progresses, I'll be sure to share the results, if any. And, thanks for a great question - hope my answer is not too disappointing.

Cheers,

Plazma

[Mark]

Hey Plazma

One thing I would highly recommend you do if you haven't already is to put an inline fuse on the input, 5 amps or so.
Just in case there's a problem ya don't want to let the smoke out.

Mark

[Plazma]

Hey Plazma

One thing I would highly recommend you do if you haven't already is to put an inline fuse on the input, 5 amps or so.
Just in case there's a problem ya don't want to let the smoke out.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Great suggestion. While the big brute batteries have knife switches and fuse blocks, there are other places that merit more protection. Some of these are covered and others (like excitation +) are still in work. Thanks for the reminder . . .

Plazma

[Plazma]

Trigger Suggestions?

@All;

For those more experienced 10-coiler mavens, does anyone have any suggestions for starter values for the resistor network in the trigger circuit. My setup will be 24 Volt supply and 24 Volt on the charging side.

Thanks for any advice - and, Happy New Year to Everyone.

Plazma

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

@All;

For those more experienced 10-coiler mavens, does anyone have any suggestions for starter values for the resistor network in the trigger circuit. My setup will be 24 Volt supply and 24 Volt on the charging side.

Thanks for any advice - and, Happy New Year to Everyone.

Plazma

Hi Plazma, this should help you out. As a side note, use 100 ohm on the bases.

Thanks

Bit's

[Plazma]

Hi Plazma, this should help you out. As a side note, use 100 ohm on the bases.

Thanks

Bit's

Hi Bits,

Thanks for the speedy reply - and, for a very nice pictorial. I had all of the boards installed with the 100 Ohm base resistors as you suggested. The pots I have on hand are bigger than 100 Ohm but I can make one of them work. Should be fun. I'm very close to lunch - aaagh - launch . . . that's it, launch.

Cheers,

Plazma

[Plazma]

Spinning Under the Southern Cross . . .

An Open Question -

I spent most of last night reading and studying the 14-ft Bedini Wheel Thread. First, BIG Congrats to John Koorn for his successful build and Kudos to all the great posts there.

Here's the issue that comes to mind ref the 10-coiler build: Great attention was paid on the 'Big Wheel' Center Coil Core length and position - that is, in the Northern Hemisphere the coil core was extended below the bottom edge of the coil carrier/bobbin about an inch or so, maybe 2 inches. In the Southern Hemisphere, like in John Koorn's build done in Australia, the coil core was extended UPWARDS towards the wheel (and magnets) by a similar distance. This has to do with the magnetic current(s) streaming and shape and the associated timing, if I understand correctly, as such is affected on the 'Big Wheel' by one's location by hemisphere.

What prompts my question is that the 10-coiler kits have the coil cores extended outwards, away from the wheel, and that the extended core surface serves as a clamping site for helping hold the coil bobbin in the carrier. That is all well and good if one lives in the Northern Hemisphere. However, does this outward extension of the coil cores on the 10-coiler have any affects that must be otherwise compensated for if the kit builder happens to live in the Southern Hemisphere?

Of course, there are major differences between the 2 machines. However, magnetics are involved in both machines - so, is there a latent (hidden) Hemispherical issue with the 10-coiler that could affect its tuning and/or performance?

Just curious

Plazma

[John_K]

Hi Plazma,

That's a great question, one which I have pondered for many times.

BTW, thanks for the appreciation of my build.

I have always traditionally cut my R60 cores the same length of the coil, without any overlap extending from either end of the coil. However, I did notice that John B usually extends his rods out of the magnet facing end of the coil/s.

I do wonder if extending the ends of the core out from the coil does or does not not affect the amount of "pumping" of the Bloch wall, or not. It can probably only be proved or dis-proved by experiments on the bench, but my gut does tell me that extending the cores would have a bigger effect of creating a non-linear scenario where the Bloch wall can be "pumped" more than if the core was the same length as the coil.

Whether the effect translates to the 10-coiler or not is again, a matter for experimentation, but my feeling is that if the coils surround the circumference of the rotor, as with the 10-coiler, then it may not matter whereas the Big Bedini Machine has the coils in only one portion of the rotor.

I'm purely speculating though and have no hard data to prove these theories as yet.


John K.

An Open Question -

I spent most of last night reading and studying the 14-ft Bedini Wheel Thread. First, BIG Congrats to John Koorn for his successful build and Kudos to all the great posts there.

Here's the issue that comes to mind ref the 10-coiler build: Great attention was paid on the 'Big Wheel' Center Coil Core length and position - that is, in the Northern Hemisphere the coil core was extended below the bottom edge of the coil carrier/bobbin about an inch or so, maybe 2 inches. In the Southern Hemisphere, like in John Koorn's build done in Australia, the coil core was extended UPWARDS towards the wheel (and magnets) by a similar distance. This has to do with the magnetic current(s) streaming and shape and the associated timing, if I understand correctly, as such is affected on the 'Big Wheel' by one's location by hemisphere.

What prompts my question is that the 10-coiler kits have the coil cores extended outwards, away from the wheel, and that the extended core surface serves as a clamping site for helping hold the coil bobbin in the carrier. That is all well and good if one lives in the Northern Hemisphere. However, does this outward extension of the coil cores on the 10-coiler have any affects that must be otherwise compensated for if the kit builder happens to live in the Southern Hemisphere?

Of course, there are major differences between the 2 machines. However, magnetics are involved in both machines - so, is there a latent (hidden) Hemispherical issue with the 10-coiler that could affect its tuning and/or performance?

Just curious

Plazma