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  • #16
    Originally posted by DavidE View Post
    You doubters need to consider what John Bedini cannot say. Also listen carefully to what he does say. The subtleties are there.
    Hillarious comment i would say... or how the saying goes like "believe and do not question"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by baroutologos View Post
      That Device is not producing any OU and cannot power anything...
      No. ^ That is a hilarious comment.

      Cannot power anything....lol. Anything is a very defining word.

      You have no understanding of what is being achieved here. The device is a prototype, with which people can direct their research in whatever way they choose. You cant put a rating or specification on that, because you have no way of knowing what each individual will choose to explore, and at what input voltage/amperage, because the results will be different for each.

      I tire of your negative approach. You obviously dont see any merit in this technology, so why bother commenting?

      Mart has a point too, $4k could get a decent chunk of solar etc running right now. So its not for the faint of heart, bottom line, its still an experimental device, you dont really know how far it can be taken yet.

      Ive yet to see many people push any sort of significant voltage through these machines. Im talking 100v plus, which this machine could handle.

      Have a look at this video I made of the 3 pole on 36v.

      YouTube - 3 pole Monopole 36v

      Now imagine the 10 pole doing that, with 10 generator coils.
      "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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      • #18
        I've been outta this forum for a while. Mostly because I no longer have expendable money to purchase supplies and follow everyones experiments and findings. And lemme say a HUGE THANK YOU to everyone that continues to spend their time and money to simply share what they have learned so that one day I and anyone else can open one of these threads and say, "I'm gonna build this here device to provide energy for my home and vehicles and anything else I may need or want it for." THANK YOU. It's so enjoyable to build and learn from all of you. Yet the commitment of money required is really quite a commitment. So I really wanna say it again, THANK YOU EVERYONE.



        The 10 coil looks magnificant, "need a more thorough vocab", so smooth and professional looking. If only I could talk my family into spending some money to take us off the grids energy system. This would definately be something worth looking very deeply at. One could have power whenever one wanted. No need for sun nor wind nor fuel. Just go over to the device and give it a spin to get it going. "If it is a simple spin to get it started. From all the small ones I made from fans that's how I got em going anyhow." And I am really liking the idea of the battery bank. One would only need to run the energizer when needed. I reach a stone wall when trying to convince the family to purchasing supplies to take us off grid and be independent with our energy needs. But I'll keep trying.

        To be totally honest what I would love to build or see is a window motor that only needs a single battery. It would use the single battery to run and then it would use the collapsed field to charge that same battery. Then I would like to use the mechinical output to make an induction generator. Or hook up in an electric car. Or..... anything. "not to run too far OT, but if anyone has some info on this idea here plz point me back in the right direction. My uncle has an electric RC plane that would be awesome to make a small motor which could do just that and keep it aloft for hours on end."


        Anywho. Awesome energizer. I would always look at the original that bedini made and would daydream about how I would have the battery banks to run everything I need and then use the mechinical output to spin an induction motor and sell that surplus back to the power company.
        If you've made it this far then I've finally quit rambling.

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        • #19
          for whatever use someone wants

          Originally posted by ren View Post
          The device is a prototype, with which people can direct their research in whatever way they choose. You cant put a rating or specification on that, because you have no way of knowing what each individual will choose to explore, and at what input voltage/amperage, because the results will be different for each.
          Exactly - it isn't sold as a home power unit. It is a kit that people can build.
          Custom support can help someone with the build but everyone has to
          figure out their own application as everyone's will be different.
          Sincerely,
          Aaron Murakami

          Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
          Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
          RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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          • #20
            - message removed due to politeness -
            Last edited by baroutologos; 02-14-2010, 11:48 AM.

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            • #21
              RE: 10 coiler

              Originally posted by Aaron View Post
              Exactly - it isn't sold as a home power unit. It is a kit that people can build.
              Custom support can help someone with the build but everyone has to
              figure out their own application as everyone's will be different.
              Aaron, I know you live fairly close to Bedini, have you seen this first hand?

              I look forward to hearing from those who have purchased the unit how it works out for them.
              See my experiments here...
              http://www.youtube.com/marthale7

              You do not have to prove something for it to be true. However, you do have to prove something for others to believe it true.

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              • #22
                10 coiler

                Mart, I remember when the first 10 coiler was built and Peter and John
                were killing their hands winding those things. I have seen it run countless
                times and it was able to charge a battery bank that weighs probably 2 tons,
                literally. I've seen one bank power thousands of watts of incandescent bulbs
                and then have seen the 10 coiler charge up that bank from the other bank
                to full charge and have seen both banks charged to the top all without
                drawing power from the grid.

                I've also seen one of the kits Rick put together and it is a beautiful setup.

                So, yes, I've seen it countless times. The 6 coiler, the hotdog machine,
                you name it.
                Sincerely,
                Aaron Murakami

                Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ren View Post
                  I tire of your negative approach. You obviously don't see any merit in this technology, so why bother commenting?
                  There is zero reason for going Mechanical and Spinning a Shaft; unless you just like to pay to make NOISE.

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                  • #24
                    thanks Aaron

                    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                    Mart, I remember when the first 10 coiler was built and Peter and John
                    were killing their hands winding those things. I have seen it run countless
                    times and it was able to charge a battery bank that weighs probably 2 tons,
                    literally. I've seen one bank power thousands of watts of incandescent bulbs
                    and then have seen the 10 coiler charge up that bank from the other bank
                    to full charge and have seen both banks charged to the top all without
                    drawing power from the grid.

                    I've also seen one of the kits Rick put together and it is a beautiful setup.

                    So, yes, I've seen it countless times. The 6 coiler, the hotdog machine,
                    you name it.
                    so here is the interesting part.... when tuned correctly the 10 coiler will charge up both banks of batteries. run from one to charge the second, and back and forth, exactly what you would expect from an aether pump. I will be getting one of these, you can charge huge amounts of batts. this would be an integral part of a solar charging system, to keep you 20k in batteries happpy. even with solar you need to replace batts every 7 to 10 years. with this monopole you can expect your batteries to last at least twice as long.

                    the small amount of current this unit draws (10 amps) will be easily supplied by a decent sized solar array. so run off your solar inverter in the day, your monopole charged batteries at night. you only need 1 bank. and you double the life of your batteries at least
                    http://www.teslagenx.com

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                    • #25
                      mechanical oscillator

                      Originally posted by Schpankme View Post
                      There is zero reason for going Mechanical and Spinning a Shaft; unless you just like to pay to make NOISE.
                      With mechanical, it is a mechanical oscillator and is a different machine
                      than the solid state oscillator.

                      There is a difference in the timing of the battery pulses, etc... and the
                      wheel turns for free.

                      You may only see noise but I know it is something different.
                      Sincerely,
                      Aaron Murakami

                      Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                      Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                      RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Schpankme View Post
                        There is zero reason for going Mechanical and Spinning a Shaft; unless you just like to pay to make NOISE.
                        No.

                        YOU see zero reason for spinning the shaft.

                        I dont.

                        Ive already seen what can be done by spinning the shaft, and the results arent the same as a solidstate unit. You can make it do work, at no extra cost on the input, often for LESS on the input. There is another sweet spot which can be found when the rotor is slightly loaded mechanically where charging ability actually increases, for a decrease in input current.

                        This is without even starting on generator coils. Or any other form of mechanical load suitable.

                        Seriously....some people have no imagination....
                        Last edited by ren; 02-15-2010, 06:03 AM.
                        "Once you've come to the conclusion that what what you know already is all you need to know, then you have a degree in disinterest." - John Dobson

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ren View Post
                          Seriously....some people have no imagination....


                          Classic!
                          You can view my vids here

                          http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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                          • #28
                            RE: 10 amps...

                            Originally posted by stonewater View Post
                            so here is the interesting part.... when tuned correctly the 10 coiler will charge up both banks of batteries. run from one to charge the second, and back and forth, exactly what you would expect from an aether pump. I will be getting one of these, you can charge huge amounts of batts. this would be an integral part of a solar charging system, to keep you 20k in batteries happpy. even with solar you need to replace batts every 7 to 10 years. with this monopole you can expect your batteries to last at least twice as long.

                            the small amount of current this unit draws (10 amps) will be easily supplied by a decent sized solar array. so run off your solar inverter in the day, your monopole charged batteries at night. you only need 1 bank. and you double the life of your batteries at least

                            It is a nice thought, and I have tried that.....

                            There is a problem with this.... it is called clouds. If you try to run a energizer with sunlight the first cloud that comes over will throw your momentum of charge all out of whack.

                            What I have found that works is to trickle charge batteries up with solar ( thus not killing them with amps ) then using this to run the energizer. This has the advantage of having a constant flow to the energizer.

                            To me my front set of batteries are my large capacitor to smooth out the bumps of solar called clouds...
                            See my experiments here...
                            http://www.youtube.com/marthale7

                            You do not have to prove something for it to be true. However, you do have to prove something for others to believe it true.

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                            • #29
                              I am sort of puzzled. Isn't this supposed to be a commercial unit, this 10 coiler?

                              So why does it need "tuning" when people are just supposed to buy it, assemble it and voila?! Or is this another experimental unit for people to play with?
                              Are the ravings of a lunatic signs of a genius?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by amigo View Post
                                I am sort of puzzled. Isn't this supposed to be a commercial unit, this 10 coiler?

                                So why does it need "tuning" when people are just supposed to buy it, assemble it and voila?! Or is this another experimental unit for people to play with?
                                I hope that this unit shows the real principle involved in a Bedini Energizer.

                                Hmmm ... lets see

                                10 coils, about 20Kg of Copper ... 250$
                                10 circuits, ... 100$
                                A perfect rotor with magnets ... 50$
                                Perfectly cut plexiglasses ... 100$
                                Labor for building the coils and circuits: 500$
                                ----------------------------------------
                                Total: 1000$

                                So, we are not obliged to buy the kits, because Bedini, seems to have released every bit of knowledge required to build this machine, and we can build it ourselves for a maximum of 500$ not including the labor, if we don't want to pay 4000$.

                                If Bedini wants to reduce the 4000$ price tag, he needs to start a factory. So I find 4000$ reasonable, as there is not obligation to it, and one can build it for 500$ if he wants to.
                                Last edited by elias; 02-16-2010, 07:43 AM.
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