Bedini 10-coil

[electricity]

Real P not experimental E

225Ah, now it is time that you go and experiment. You have all of the tools, setups, test scenairos, etc. You'll be able to answer all of your own questions.

thanks bit

I have abandoned the SSG, in a nut shell, it's a scaled up LED driver, proportioned scaled up to drive 2 light bulbs, may be more?

It is impossible to collect Real World usable P from back EMF, I have moved on to more practical solution such as Tesla pancake bi-filar coil driven oscillator. I'm almost there. I don't need your help thank you very much.

I just wanted to clear up the Hype about the Monopole, 20 years of development to light 2 light bulbs.

Heck, I can light 4 light bulbs with cheap JT perpetually with my 5 gallon captret self charging a 12v Lead Acid. This is a Motionless passive charger, and it only costs $25 to build.

Anyhow, God Sped

[Mark]

The answer is yes. I use the 10 coiler to charge mulitple banks of batteries (Not at the same time) and move the grid tie between banks. I call this the "Duty cycle" of the battery bank. The grid tie that I am using (Albeit smalll) usually last about 6hrs with the banks I have. This is more than enough time for 10 coiler to recharge the discharged bank in prep for the next "duty cycle". Does this run my whole house, hell no, but it trims about $40.00 a month off of the electric bill. It's a start. As you know, I am involved in many projects so tesing time, fact gathering, etc. leaves me with limited figures. Together we will get there.

Jeff

Hi Bits I asked you a similiar question a while back and you never answered, glad to see your response. I just pulled out some of my electric bills and found one that was for $39.77 and I used 294KWH of electricty. So your saying that with your setup a person should be able to pull around 300KWH of electricity in a month or 10KWH a day? I even included all the taxes and services charges in my $39.77 bill.

Thanks Mark

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi Bits I asked you a similiar question a while back and you never answered, glad to see your response. I just pulled out some of my electric bills and found one that was for $39.77 and I used 294KWH of electricty. So your saying that with your setup a person should be able to pull around 300KWH of electricity in a month or 10KWH a day? I even included all the taxes and services charges in my $39.77 bill.

Thanks Mark

Here is my usage so far this year


Reading Date Days KW Used Total KW KW Per Day
Jan-Feb 1/18 - 2/17 29 68340 - 75375 7035 243
Feb-Mar 2/17 - 3/18 31 75375 - 79946 4571 152
Mar-Apr 3/18 - 4/16 29 79946 - 82193 2247 75
Apr-May 4/16 - 5/17 29 82193 - 83536 1343 44
May-Jun 5/17 - 6/16 29 83536 - 85216 1680 56
Jun-Jul 6/16 - 7/16 30 85216 - 87506 2290 76
Jul-Aug 7/16 - 8/17 29 90512 - 92121 1609 54

[aussieaussieaussie]

Thanks for the answer Bits,

Even thought you are not powering your house, you have built essentially a OU machine and that my friend is something you should be very proud of!

I am sure over the next months or years you will increase that output to something more respectable.

I do wish you would speculate like Vtech on the 10 coils potential output though
500watts u think vtech hey?

So I look forward to your videos bits and the latest load tests with the new coils.


So has anyone else here got a 10 coiler that is self running? If so, have you been able to get some useful work out of the system in watts???????????

As for 'electricity' if all you say is true and you can do better, then please show us! Make a video with the device powering a load and then post exactly how to build it with the diagrams on here. By the sounds of it we could all replicate and confirm in a week and the world would forever remember electricity the man who changed the world

If however you don't have an OU device then please treat those people that do have Ou device with a little respect and understand your glass is very much still empty like the rest of us..... Listen, Learn then TEACH!

Thanks Folks,

Ozy


P.S. I was also wondering batt bank size? Does a bigger batt take longer to charge or the same amount of time. If its the same does this translate to more watts been able to use out off a large batt vs. small batt?
Basically I wonder what the differences in the process occur for:
1x 12V Batt Charging
3x 12V Batt Charging
1x Massive 12V Charging
3x Massive 12V Charging
20 x 12V Charging

Any tests???? Avg Times????

[aussieaussieaussie]

Woo Hoo!

I am excited too! I have dusted off the 10inch fan and have started to reclaim some old 12v truck batteries. I cant wait to throw 10k at a nice big replication of one of these machines...

But as I did not attend the conference I am a little confused on the details.
Well mainly the actual specifications....

Bedini said there was two 'OU' devices at the conference...

Bits 10 Coil Setup: Output = ? (Last youtube vid 0.5 amp @ 120AC = 60watts) $40 off monthly power bill was also claimed but

Bedini Ferris Wheel: Output = 1.3 million joules? I think... = usable watts???


Then there's the devices that were talked about but not shown...

Lockridge device: Output = ??????

30 Coil Kit from Rick: Output = ???????


If anyone can fill in the blanks here it would be greatly appreciated.
Just looking for a little direction so I spend my money on a OU device not another expensive toy.

Ozy

Cant wait to buy Bits batt swapper! Or find an Open source version.
I have been wasting money on diesel for 27 years please so me the light!

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Bits 10 Coil Setup: Output = ? (Last youtube vid 0.5 amp @ 120AC = 60watts) $40 off monthly power bill was also claimed but

Bedini Ferris Wheel: Output = 1.3 million joules? I think... = usable watts???


Then there's the devices that were talked about but not shown...

Lockridge device: Output = ??????

30 Coil Kit from Rick: Output = ???????


If anyone can fill in the blanks here it would be greatly appreciated.
Just looking for a little direction so I spend my money on a OU device not another expensive toy.

Ozy

Cant wait to buy Bits batt swapper! Or find an Open source version.
I have been wasting money on diesel for 27 years please so me the light!

Ok Ozy, I know you were not at the conference and you want hard and fast calculations and figures. Here is the same message that I told folks asking the same questions as you are seeking. First you cannot take these systems and put a hard figure to what they will output. It is true I illustrated about .5 amps going back to the grid in my vid. Did you happen to see what size batts I had in that illustration? They were very small but it showed just a hint of what the 10 coiler could do. That said, in my setup at the conference and the questions I answered, if you take 2 battery banks, consisting of 4 ea 12V batterys in series then you now have 2 banks capable of producing 48V @ "your total amapacity" figured at a C5 or C20 rate. You'll note that I said "YOUR" meaning everyones setup will be different. Continuing on with this illustration, 1 bank is under load (Grid Tie) the other is being charged (from the 10 coiler). How fast can the 10 coiler recover the charge for the batts being charged? Who knows. Depends on the health of your batts, temp, etc., etc. The optimal setup is that your Grid Tie will be sized to your battery banks at the proper C? rating, and the 10 coiler recovers the drained bank in that same period. I'll call this the "Charge" and "Discharge" window. Properly configured, it has been my testing experience, the 10 coiler will recover a healthy battery bank in 2 - 5 hours. I am going to caveat this statement by saying that I am not allowing a discharge cycle of the batts to fall below 12.2 volts / batt. This is the fully discharged cycle resting voltage. So the batt swapper is brought in to control the load / charge process to insure that you have properly charged batteries and also to provide a continous load setup. With this said, "YOUR" battery bank / Grid Tie setup is the numbers you need to use in your Calc. to determine "How much can the 10 coiler output". Make sense?

Jeff

[aussieaussieaussie]

I completely understand Jeff, many many variables...
I think you multi device system is the way to go.

I am going to purchase a kit from Rick (10,12,20,30 coil)
just wanted some advice on my choice.
Thought someone such as yourself might speculate what these devices are capable of with large batt banks and auto batt switching systems.

I have 20 100AH 12V deep cycles to play with and about 10k in $ for kits etc.

Thanks,

Ozy

[Mark]

Hello Bits

I am not trying to offend you in any way just trying to get a better understanding of your set up and what its currently capabilities are.

You stated that your set up saves you about $40.00 a month on your electricity bill. $40 a month is around 300KWH of electricity which is equivelent to around 400 watts ouput 24 hours a day for 30 days. So is your set up able to output 400 watts continously while maintaining its input or is it 60 watts. Maybe your guestimate of $40 a month was off or there is something else figured in that I dont understand. Could you please fill me in on what I dont understand?

Thanks Mark

[minoly]

There's gold in them darn hills!

Ok, you guys that ask these input output questions – believe me, I’ve been there! In the beginning – that was a big part of what I wanted to know. I quickly learned, however, that that was a big stumbling block for our learning curve, a break in the ointment. For some, this is a gigantic hurtle they will never be able to clear.
Now the last thing I want to do is discourage you from sending lots of $$$ Rick’s way, however, if your desire to get over unity by way of $$’s exceeds your desire to learn how to do it. I just hope you have enough $$’s for some bionic legs.
There are a few of these types of hurtles along the way, please take my advise and remove this one – set your mind to learn how and why it

ALL!!

works, remove the over unity goal for a while. Experiment w/ each component, it is not enough to know why a book says it is so. This machine has many balance points, if one does not learn the “how, what, why, when, where” of each point, it will be impossible to reach an educated end. Bit’s stated it very eloquently in post 335 –

"This conference is to Teach this technology and if we give in to the status quo, then we are just repeating the very mess that we are in today".

Bottom line if you have $$ burning a hole in your pocket, and I mean lots of extra $$$ then get the 10 coil kit – it will be an excellent starting bench. If you have a few $ get the 3pole monopole kit. If you’re on a budget, join the monopole 3 group on yahoo and
STICK TO THE SPECS ON THE FRONT PAGE
(Another hurtle I will not get into now as I have already typed too much.)
Thanks,
Patrick -

PS - we are still learning over here.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hello Bits

I am not trying to offend you in any way just trying to get a better understanding of your set up and what its currently capabilities are.

You stated that your set up saves you about $40.00 a month on your electricity bill. $40 a month is around 300KWH of electricity which is equivelent to around 400 watts ouput 24 hours a day for 30 days. So is your set up able to output 400 watts continously while maintaining its input or is it 60 watts. Maybe your guestimate of $40 a month was off or there is something else figured in that I dont understand. Could you please fill me in on what I dont understand?

Thanks Mark

Mark, I just tried to illustrate in my last comment to Ozy that their are many varibles. The first mistake that everyone is making is trying to wrap a math problem around this. Without giving you the answer, can you verify your cost per KWH is exactly the same as mine? Of course not! Then how can you equate a $40.00 a month saving from my bill to a 300KWH delta. Quit trying to apply convential means to this non-convential energy. Build a setup just like I illustrated at the conference, size the battery banks to fit your needs and you my friend will have savings, WHICH WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN MINE.

And just as a side note, my grid tie, the one I illustrated to you in the video put's out anywhere from .5 to 1.2 amps. It senses the "Availble Voltage" and ramps up or down as necessary. Once again, your assumption was a fixed .5amps.

Jeff

[Mark]

Mark, I just tried to illustrate in my last comment to Ozy that their are many varibles. The first mistake that everyone is making is trying to wrap a math problem around this. Without giving you the answer, can you verify your cost per KWH is exactly the same as mine? Of course not! Then how can you equate a $40.00 a month saving from my bill to a 300KWH delta. Quit trying to apply convential means to this non-convential energy. Build a setup just like I illustrated at the conference, size the battery banks to fit your needs and you my friend will have savings, WHICH WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN MINE.

And just as a side note, my grid tie, the one I illustrated to you in the video put's out anywhere from .5 to 1.2 amps. It senses the "Availble Voltage" and ramps up or down as necessary. Once again, your assumption was a fixed .5amps.

Jeff

Jeff

Your grid tie inverter IS putting out convential power. I realise there are a lot of variables. I'm sure there is probably a difference in what you and I pay for electricity but $40 a month does not add up to 60-150 watts of output unless your paying 4 to 10 more for electricity than I am. Thats all I'm saying. I believe that you have access power from your set up. I just think that your monthly savings is not as high as you think. At least not with the current configuation you have. I'd love to see you hook up huge battery banks to your set up and go off grid. Nothing would make me happier.

I'm a numbers cruncher and the numbers just aren't adding up, sorry to upset you.

[Aaron]

no more disruptions or disrespect to members

ok, more messages.

Bearden, Bedini and Lindermann are all Agents.

No wonder we never got free energy for over 30+ years now with this movement.

Insulting my friends in such a manner is unacceptable. I posted the
forum posting rules and signing up for another account to post under
another user name is unacceptable as is your inflammatory posts.

Faka‘au ā ē

[aussieaussieaussie]

Things don't add up...

Hey All,

I was close to ordering one of the kits, but I think I may hold off for another year or two.

This lack of information regarding the potential of these machines is causing me concern.

People go to great lengths to explain that my results will be different... duh! (Obvious u fool) What retard would ever think they will be the same?

But they will never speculate about what THERE machine is actually producing. Many claim success but don't have anytime to make a quick test to prove it. Frankly, if you are going to claim something u should have rough numbers of what you have achieved. Otherwise it's just Hot Air.

All these things have made me realize I don't want to invest any money into something that has the same kind of sales pitch as Magniwork etc. 'Trust us'

I really believe that bedini/ bits way is the right way to go about getting free energy - but there actions and replies to my posts makes me believe that either they are masters of the bait and switch technique.
(Thats not an insult thats what is happening!)
or they have something worth while but ego is getting in the way of full disclosure.

I have build the bedini fan kit, I have studied it, I find it very interesting. Why is it so hard to get information about the next step and what to expect.

I am been treated like an idiot, when my questions are just the normal questions anyone would ask before buying something.

If I buy a boat they tell me it will go 7 knots hull speed, that means it's designed to do a maximum of 7 knots - when I buy it it will only do 5 knots because of dirty hull - I don't get mad I understand the difference between performance and potential performance and all the many variables that go along with it. Same with these kits - should be any different.

The naysayers and the people yelling 'bedini scam' aren't doing it for no reason. Riddles and lack of basic information will always lead to good honest people screaming BUNK!

I hope things clear up in the near future and those of us on the 10 coil fence can get to work.

Thanks,

Ozy

@Bits:
Whats wrong with a little math? Scientists seem to like math? We understand that there are variables just like as soon as you stated $40 saving in electricity - I thought he hasn't taken into account that he is spending all his time playing with a toy that doesn't require energy...
Thats why is bills are cheaper!
Time for a new vid Bits, and show us what your setup can do!

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

[QUOTE=aussieaussieaussie;118073]I really believe that bedini/ bits way is the right way to go about getting free energy - but there actions and replies to my posts makes me believe that either they are masters of the bait and switch technique.
(Thats not an insult thats what is happening!)
or they have something worth while but ego is getting in the way of full disclosure.Thanks,

Ozy

I am a very honest person, so is John. Ozy, have a very nice adventure in seeking "Your" truth. I am done trying to help you.

Jeff

[aussieaussieaussie]

Geez!

This is the problem bits, you all get upset when someone asks a normal question!

I was not trying to find MY Truth, I already know my truth, I was trying to discover YOURS. I want to believe you and John but do I have to go on complete faith - when did a 10 coil become a South West Preacher????

Don't take offense to the bait and switch thing - that is a just observation. Rick releases these kits with no info about them, then a few months later there is a bigger kit with no info about it or the previous ones. This my friend is called bait and switch. I am hoping it's an accident and not like all the other scams.

So your done helping me? You never even helped? I have been posting normal basic questions regarding your system and you feel the need to give a lecture on how I am out of line asking such questions.. Give me a break!

Loose the ego my friend! I thought you may have been the answer! Someone to decode the Bedini riddles and give us a working device that we have a hope of replicating and then understanding fully.

But alas you have drunk the ego kool-aid, and this is why we don't have 1000s of free energy devices around the world today. Because people like you who are in the know always think that everyone else is idiots and they don't deserve to know. The government doesn't need to try to cover this stuff up - you make it so hard to get answers, speak in so many riddles and always speak down to anyone who doesn't swallow the whole story hook, line and sinker. - That most people think your a scammer.

In my honest opinion, I think you are all evil. What honest good person would keep the truth and knowledge capable of saving this planet to themselves? Why wouldn't they share it in a clear and concise manner?
Do you think the people starving give a **** whether you make any $$$?
What is wrong with the world, you are my friend, you only see $$$, not what you and people like you are doing to this society.

I honestly think it's a power trip, while we don't know you hold the power. When we find out how it's done or thats it a scam you loose all your power. That is what you are afraid of and you will do anything to keep us from the truth.

God damm you egotistical yanks, why couldn't you just of replied with the answer instead of the lecture.

"My device produces 60-120 watts of excess power and I hope to get some more out of it soon with improvements."

Thats what someone NORMAL would say, so why are you acting so much like a snake oil salesman?

Ozy