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  • #46
    Originally posted by Jules Tresor View Post
    Looks more and more interesting man !
    Are you pulsing in the big caps then in the battery ?

    Scratchrobot latest YouTube - TS_PVA_BigCap
    Just charging the big cap's in parallel then disconnecting the input and discharging to the battery in series. I used the 7 transistor circuit from StefanC.

    Did you recieve your TS already?
    scratchrobot

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    • #47
      Tesla Solar Power Amplifier - Early Test Results

      Hi All,

      I received my 10A Tesla Solar Power Amplifier a couple of weeks ago. (RC-S10A 12/24). I ran it for a while on a lab power supply to see what it does and was pretty impressed with the charge rate. The TSPA was drawing around 7A @ 32V in pulses. I had a 12V 130Ah Trojan SCS-225 Marine Deep Cycle as the charge battery and the TSPA had it cold-boiling in a few hours at over 14.5V. I then had the TSPA charging up 2 banks of 6 x SCS-225's in parallel. I would charge one bank and load the other bank and then swap.
      I could tell that each time the banks were taking less time to charge and I was getting longer run times as well.

      I now have the 10A TSPA connected to a 200W 24V solar panel. My charging banks are the same 6 x 12V 130Ah in parallel. The TSPA is doing a nice job of charging these banks, but the best thing is that the TSPA will charge these batteries from dawn until dusk! As long as it is daylight, the TSPA is charging the batteries. Obviously it charges better in full sun, but I am amazed that I am getting more out of the solar panel than a conventional charge controller.

      If anyone is interested in trying one of these revolutionary solar chargers, I am also an authorized Australian dealer for Renaissance Charge. Please visit my website for more details


      John K.
      http://teslagenx.com

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      • #48
        Great report John! Have you tried to use a battery for the input yet instead of the solar panel? You could use one battery bank to run an inverter, plug in your power supply to run the TSPA and charge the other bank of batteries. Then rotate the battery banks as needed. Will both banks charge up or will the eventually run down?

        Thanks, Mark
        Last edited by Mark; 08-18-2010, 11:53 AM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Mark View Post
          Great report John! Have you tried to use a battery for the input yet instead of the solar panel? You could use one battery bank to run an inverter, plug in your power supply to run the TSPA and charge the other bank of batteries. Then rotate the battery banks as needed. Will both banks charge up or will the eventually run down?

          Thanks, Mark
          Hi Mark,

          No I haven't tried a battery yet. I didn't want to test out the 10A circuit breaker or potentially damage the unit.

          I like your idea but think there would be too many losses in the inverter and power supply and the batteries would eventually run down.

          I think one of the major benefits is the ability to be able to charge (and rejuvenate) a battery bank in marginal light conditions. I could not believe it when I saw that the batteries were still being charged 1/2 an hour after the sun went down yesterday. Then I went out this morning and the TSPA was charging before the sun got up. It's winter where I live (in Melbourne) and we are lucky to get 10 hours of daylight this time of year. It's nice to know that I'm still generating power in these conditions. And I haven't even mounted my solar panel on the roof yet, it's just leaning against the shed wall.

          I'm pretty confident that once I buy a decent PSW inverter, I can run my whole workshop off a 200W panel - including my other Renaissance Charge battery rejuvenators.


          John K.
          http://teslagenx.com

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          • #50
            Hi John

            Thanks for the quick response. I don't see how you would blow the 10 amp fuse or hurt the unit since you would be using the same power supply to power the TSPA. I know there would be loses with the inverter but if you, or someone could test this and both battery banks charged up, what do you think would happen with sales of the TSPA? This needs to be tested!

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            • #51
              Oh one other question, can you run a load off the charging batteries while using the TSPA?

              Mark

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              • #52
                You could run it from 2 series batteries @ 24V and charge 2 parallel batteries.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by John_K View Post
                  Hi Mark,

                  No I haven't tried a battery yet. I didn't want to test out the 10A circuit breaker or potentially damage the unit.

                  I like your idea but think there would be too many losses in the inverter and power supply and the batteries would eventually run down.

                  I think one of the major benefits is the ability to be able to charge (and rejuvenate) a battery bank in marginal light conditions. I could not believe it when I saw that the batteries were still being charged 1/2 an hour after the sun went down yesterday. Then I went out this morning and the TSPA was charging before the sun got up. It's winter where I live (in Melbourne) and we are lucky to get 10 hours of daylight this time of year. It's nice to know that I'm still generating power in these conditions. And I haven't even mounted my solar panel on the roof yet, it's just leaning against the shed wall.

                  I'm pretty confident that once I buy a decent PSW inverter, I can run my whole workshop off a 200W panel - including my other Renaissance Charge battery rejuvenators.


                  John K.
                  Wonder if we got phos paint and put it over the panel at night would it charge , phos paint stores light

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Mark View Post
                    Oh one other question, can you run a load off the charging batteries while using the TSPA?

                    Mark
                    Hi Mark,

                    Yes you can, no problem at all.

                    I only run dual battery banks because batteries don't like being charged and loaded at the same time, but for most people it's not practical.



                    John K.
                    http://teslagenx.com

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by John_K View Post
                      Hi Mark,

                      Yes you can, no problem at all.

                      I only run dual battery banks because batteries don't like being charged and loaded at the same time, but for most people it's not practical.



                      John K.
                      If the batteries are being pulsed with short, intense
                      pulses of 2 to 5 microSeconds at 1 KHz or more you
                      may find that they will charge effeciently while
                      'on-line' with a load. Providing the load isn't too
                      heavy.

                      It is best, though, to charge/rejuvenate/desulfate a
                      battery that is not being loaded as you've suggested.

                      The principle behind the Solar Power Amplifier is
                      relatively simple - it is basically a 'charge pump.'

                      The attached diagram is as old (or perhaps even
                      older) as the 555 Timer. But with the advent of
                      high current, low loss MosFets is more useful than
                      ever.

                      To emulate the functioning of the Solar Amplifier
                      you'll want to have a fairly large 'bulk' storage
                      capacitor from Vcc to Gnd. Capacitor C1 is then
                      alternately Charged from Vcc, then Discharged
                      into the battery in series with Vcc to provide the
                      Voltage Doubled Impulse.

                      C1 may be smaller than the Bulk storage capacitor
                      of Vcc. The circuit may be pulsed at any convenient
                      frequency consistent with the ability of Vcc to
                      provide charging current to the battery being
                      rejuvenated.
                      Attached Files
                      Last edited by SeaMonkey; 08-20-2010, 02:01 AM. Reason: Addition

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                      • #56
                        Renaissance Charger Solar Panel _working_ User Manual

                        Hi All,

                        Attached is a working outline of the User Manual for customers who have bought a Tesla Solar Power Amplifier or who wish to buy them.

                        It was written by Rick Friedrich and posted recently to the Bedini_Monopole3 Yahoo! group. I have pasted it word for word into this format.



                        John K.
                        Attached Files
                        http://teslagenx.com

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                        • #57
                          Anyone know if you can attach 12v battery instead of solar panel..?

                          thanks.

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                          • #58
                            According to the PDF in the John K's post above anything above 12 volt and below 36 volt will work.
                            Preferably some sort of free energy input, but...

                            Matt

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
                              According to the PDF in the John K's post above anything above 12 volt and below 36 volt will work.
                              Preferably some sort of free energy input, but...

                              Matt
                              ....below the Amp rating of the circuit breaker though. I don't want to let the smoke out of mine so I won't be trying a battery on the input.



                              John K.
                              http://teslagenx.com

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                              • #60
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