Bedini advice pls

[arKzeRo]

Hi guys I have a little question regarding producing the motor for the Bedini Device i am going to do, Now bear in mind this fact! i am useless at maths to the point i don't really understand equations and algebra simple arithmetic was about my limit.

but what i was wondering is, is there a particular ratio/amount of magnets to use and spacing to set them to, in relation to the size/circumference of the rotor that i should adhere to?

the reason i ask is i want to try to get as successful a build as i can, without much waste! I am unemployed (Lost my job in Mobile coms the start of the slump) and cant afford to mess it up and have to buy new bits! ( no lie - i already did without food for 3 days so i could buy Neo's)

I am fine with the circuit and i am slowly taking in the theory side of things through watching the "Energy From The Vacum" series of films - fascinating!

Anyways i also wanted to say that what you guys are doing is amazing I don't understand he half of it! i want to try everything but one step at a time

Anyway that's all except- Sending love from Scotland.

Best Regards

jay

[theremart]

Some advice.

When you don't have much money, use the time that you have.

Old TV's / Computer power supplied have transistors and magnet wire inside. Takes time to harvest but I have found the resistors are heavy and worth the time. The transistors you harvest can be used to test limits of circuits without fear of destroying them.

Goto Youtube and start watching videos on each electrical part of the Simple School Girl setup ( resistor, transistor, diode ) learn what they are and how they function. There are several videos there that explain each part of the circuit.

A note book is a very good idea. Here you can document what works and what does not work. Best to document starting voltage, and ending voltage. ( know the difference between resting voltage, load voltage, and charging voltage )

Keep an extra charged battery for your meter. Often you will check your settings and think you have OU, only to find out that the battery in your meter went dead. When things are going too good to be true often that is the case.

This board I believe is one of the most helpful resources on the net for Bedini projects several here have worked directly with Bedini and will help point you in the right direction. You may or may not hit OU, but you will learn much about electronics, and may pick up a friend or two.

Cheers!

[digitz]

You can find many good parts in micro wave ovens as well, big coils from motor, a HV capacitor, a mot, a nice transformer and some wires to make your circuits.
Get some old batteries to use in your systems and thanks to radiant energy of bednini motors you can desulphate them and bring them a second life.
For magnets you can find some on doors of old refrigerators (they are used to keep the door closed), for what you're gonna do, you dont need absolutely Neos.

[sucahyo]

What you want to achieve? If you just want a charger that work using Bedini principle build the solid state version. Mine cost under $1, with scrapped SLA batteryand coil. My efficiency is more than 50% conventionally. I call mine stingo.

[Farmhand]

Congratulations on taking the radiant road, i'm fairly new to Bedini devices myself and fairly short on money as well so I try to salvage all I can, like the others say. I have converted a couple of fans, made a very small three pole and now a bike wheel SSG. I'm just learning from what I read and and all the devices work pretty good.

As with the magnets I have read the best spacing is three to five magnet withs apart. From my tinkering I think this is true, if I put them too close no go. My bike wheel SSG is a 27 inch wheel and only has 10 magnets 40mm x 25mm x 10 mm thick. that gives me a space of 175mm or so between magnets (7 magnet widths apart) which is too far but it still works, I have ten more coming so with 20 it will be 75mm gap three magnet widths, is what I will try and go from there. The magnets should be wide enough to completely sweep the coil core as well.

It's hard to say what is best as each custom built machine will have it's own personality so to speak.

I found some good stuff in this PDF -http://freenrg.info/Bedini/SSG_STARTERS_GUIDE-Two.pdf

Cheers

[arKzeRo]

thanks guys for that advice!

I have a spare Microwave in a cupboard it's brand new! I will have a look into it tomorrow! i don't mind spending time harvesting parts, i enjoy it one thing i will definitely do is start getting a knowledge of the parts like theremart is saying.

i had fun today taking apart an old camera flash system and playing with it, i found that connecting up a small motor and an led to give it a load and it gives 110vdc reading and a 215vac reading from the wires that went into its cap, (which i removed) I don't have a clue what i was doing but it was interesting fun!

can you use that type of circuit to drive anything?

one more question then bed inside that flash there's the flash tube a couple of lamps and a thing that looks like a lamp but it has a third wire leading from a little plate embedded in the side of its clear casing!

what is that component called?

again,thanks very much for the advice guys

Best regards

obtw i develop audio dsp software as a hobby, synthesis and efx applications mostly, so if that kind of thing is useful to anyone then let me know! i am always happy to create stuff for nice people - free that is! like the energy we all seek

g'night all

[sucahyo]

obtw i develop audio dsp software as a hobby, synthesis and efx applications mostly, so if that kind of thing is useful to anyone then let me know! i am always happy to create stuff for nice people - free that is! like the energy we all seek

Can you make a real time sound generator that can produce AM modulation of at least 3 wave that can be either sine or pulse, each wave can be shifted from 0 to 360, and frequency ranging from 0.1 HZ to max? People use this for electrolysis or interference experiment but so far there is no software that produce this as far as I know.

[fzzzy]

I can help with signal generator software. The biggest question is which platform. I'm on Mac OS X and probably not everybody uses it.

Writing audio software means using audio apis which are specific to each platform. A cross platform library like Jack would help. JACK | connecting a world of audio An even easier solution is to just write a patch for MaxMSP Cycling 74 - Tools for Media which has free Windows and OS X runtimes but no Linux, or write it in ChucK ChucK which has free OS X, Windows, and Linux runtimes.

I think ChucK is probably the best solution. I can get started on this right away. Maybe we should start a new thread for this.

Thanks for bringing this up, I have been researching options for signal generators and thinking about writing some simple software for it.

[sucahyo]

Yes, there should be a new thread. What I have in mind is a software that can control transistor. Maybe only direct access to hardware is needed since the app do the calculation and send the volume directly to the soundcard. If there are sound card amplifier, then there should be transistor that can be driven with sound card output isn't it?

[fzzzy]

Ok, I started the thread:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ors-chuck.html

You could probably just get a cheap pair of computer speakers, rip them open and use the circuitry to get a more reasonable voltage for your purposes. Using a home stereo amplifier would work too.

[arKzeRo]

yes yes of course i can do that for you guys! i am Developing for the PC so i will head over to the new thread