r-charge / bedini - solar power charger

[3MTAE]

Seamonkey.. I actually deleted a portion of my previous post concerning the extreme high price.. ( I didn't want to be accused of being BP affliated again)

I look inside my telsa solar AMPLIFYER and it's basically hollow with a little playing card sized resin covered circuit board with a visible capacitor and some leads..a light bulb too i think..etc. I deleted something to the effect of.. " there is no way their is 450$ worth of parts and labor."

I wrote it in context of me voluteering to build 1000's at my own expanse and give them away.

Ash.. and others. I am serious.

I will do what Bedini should of done. I am not scared. And If I get too hot..etc.. there will be others to covertly carry on. You can't stop good intentions and you can't stop giving away "gifts" . I will give a majority to key people.. and I will certainly find quality placement for the others.

Nothing in my post was addressed! I got a little rant on the evilness of corporate slave labor. How about just a comment regarding the point being made?

You know.. the REALITY of the Question posted? (kidding)

lol.. sorry but wow. You totally ignored my post and instead brought in irrelvant topic with mild put down.. soo I could repost.. or perhaps someone could just read it and answer back..

I am kinda worried here.

To simplify..( i know communcation can be tough..)

1) Why didn't John throw in "tuned up" version while we all waited months for the orders to pile up and deliveries to be made? ( just any insights or first hand knowledge or theories)

2) Since I know it's the best/ perhaps only way.. I purpose to do it Myself.. I will build them.. and Give them away.. I want nothing to do with the owning the brand or making money.. none of it. I will sell it under his name and be completly annoymous or whatever .. I want the "tuned up" version out in the public en mass.

We need to help John right?? I have no production costs..I know these devices do not cost that much to build.. I know WE can pool resources and get these devices into key places in our society all over.

Like I said.. without drudging up painful memories of children slave labor.. Once it's done it done. just do it

Till then I guess we have to donate to the " Bedini : Someday Fund "

Great.."Someday" hasn't come in long long while. I hope someone can respond to the merits of this plan. I am serious. I think we all can help I think this is the plan.

For the cost of one Tesla Solar cheap one.. 450$ I believe each member here could build a nice little little bundle of these .. 10 - 15 etc.. for that price cost range.. we could have that many in our local communites.. working and being exposed.

It costs Bedini nothing. and it secures his technology. Plus no worries.. after the effects are varified and en mass.. the rest will be more than willing to line Bedini and Co.'s pockets.

But I have to agree. It the intent of Bedini is to make money right now. Our resources could be used to spread this Technology. I think our money.. the money of this group on this forum.. our intent has been to spread this technology.

anyway. I hope no one minds If i periodically repost until someone gives a response? let me know. thanks.

AND.. I have to mention the marketing ploy of Bedini posting OU video and then selling non-OU products.. Innocent Im sure.. but come on. He has a base of people.. He knows they will see that.. I agree with the mantra posted here..Don't buy if you don't want too.. but again.. come on. That was low ball.

I will expose my flaw. I saw that and believed " dare not Tune Up " meant " it's stilled tuned up a little" YOu know? Not Tuned up is a alot different than " Normal Loss of Power" It's my hard earned money. I also read into the time delay on orders as his ploy to conslodate orders and ship a bunch "tuned up" at once. ( again..i know no one said that) But the intent was not that.

I think the people on this forum are here to Spread this Technology.

I think the people selling Bedini's are obviously making money.

on top of my other 2 points.. I guess I want to know what the link is between Bedini Making money right now.. and the intent of the people to get OU exposed to the public in large amounts..we need this technology more than ever. whats the plan?

I support Bedini. I support Ash and his University. But I am Dedicated to Humanity.

muchlove much Respect.

[ashtweth]

We all appreciate your sincere sentiments , some times it takes that guerrilla attitude to win Unfortunately in the real world things never work out they way we expect them, the rationalism is never rationale , but that doesn't mean that we cannot WORK TOGETHER to change it.

The more people get this switch and spread the information (Pes has the OU reading so has Panacea) the better it can be for all of us. This charger will be used in many demos here and on TV next year (like we took Rick's kit on TV last year) for that very reason. SUPPORT.

John can't do this By himself. Its a cry for help guys, and it involves us, its a matter of who can step up to the plate and support this research. And what do we get also, its still the best charger i have seen even turned down .

[SeaMonkey]

SeaMonkey,

Your statement shows you haven't put a scope on John's new charger(+_+)

Mike Klimesh

That is true.

However, based upon what has been reported in
conjunction with known technology, there aren't
many alternatives.

"Radiant" is easily produced.

PV panels produce a widely varying electrical
output.

The care and feeding of lead acid batteries
requires high intensity but very brief pulses to
accomplish Desulfation, Rejuvenation and
Equalization most efficiently.

Putting it all together is a "piece of cake."

[ashtweth]

That is true.

However, based upon what has been reported in
conjunction with known technology, there aren't
many alternatives.

"Radiant" is easily produced.

PV panels produce a widely varying electrical
output.

The care and feeding of lead acid batteries
requires high intensity but very brief pulses to
accomplish Desulfation, Rejuvenation and
Equalization most efficiently.

Putting it all together is a "piece of cake."

Hi SeaMonkey/ALL

I have the charger from the FEG book here, plus Rick';s kits and few others, i gotta say, none of them are as powerful as this switch for what its worth.

Ash

[ashtweth]

Dead man walking

Beware the dead walk the earth AGAIN.

The Sun is all powerful and god third battery from the junk yard back in 2-3 days guys, this one was really in a bad way so i left it on another day. It running one of Rick's fans holding well , well better then 2volts and a non convectional charge LOL

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4701/0001443.jpg

I like this charger it would of taken me weeks to bring this back. We have 5Kw of junk batteries to bring back to promo the charger and the sun will do all of them effortlessly. Wish John K's and my job was a PVC panel LOL

Ash

[Mark]

3MTAE,

I agree with you. And I just dont get it. The videos released that have been "removed by the user" show something different than what people actually paid for. I believe the product is worth the money but why it was detuned makes absolutely no sense at all. What does make sense is that it really is not tuned down and saying it is tuned down is all a marketing ploy.

If the time isn't right now for releasing a real over unity product with all the following this forum has and with the aid of the internet to send out mass emails with details to build one than the time will never come!

Ash, John K, Aaron and others I respect all of you and your work, but come on quit making excuses for why John hasn't released "The Goods".

I think the mighty dollar has some of you under his thumb. Money won't make you proud or happy. Giving is the only way to truly be free and happy. If "free energy" truly is possible it would with out a doubt change the world as we know it. If someone has this knowledge and doesn't get it out in the hands the people that is a crime on humanity and mother earth!

I hope I haven't stepped on too many toes and before I get bashed for what I posted I hope those that want to bash me really think about what I've said here.

Mark

[UncleFester]

3MTAE,

I agree with you. And I just dont get it. The videos released that have been "removed by the user" show something different than what people actually paid for. I believe the product is worth the money but why it was detuned makes absolutely no sense at all. What does make sense is that it really is not tuned down and saying it is tuned down is all a marketing ploy.

If the time isn't right now for releasing a real over unity product with all the following this forum has and with the aid of the internet to send out mass emails with details to build one than the time will never come!

Ash, John K, Aaron and others I respect all of you and your work, but come on quit making excuses for why John hasn't released "The Goods".

I think the mighty dollar has some of you under his thumb. Money won't make you proud or happy. Giving is the only way to truly be free and happy. If "free energy" truly is possible it would with out a doubt change the world as we know it. If someone has this knowledge and doesn't get it out in the hands the people that is a crime on humanity and mother earth!

I hope I haven't stepped on too many toes and before I get bashed for what I posted I hope those that want to bash me really think about what I've said here.

Mark

The one selling appears to be an almost identical circuit that was already released and thus I believe the videos and such were taken down for that reason. The circuit itself costs about $30 to $45 American to build. Their nice Box has got to be at least $80-$100 American, cables and those fat diodes etc aren't cheap. It's probably got $200 in parts and labor into it not counting R & D. If you account for R & D costs over the years it would be selling for far more than $450 to $750. But still, for a charge controller it's one hell of a lot of money even though I have no doubt it's worth it.

It silly as it sounds it takes me one year to save up the $750 for the model I would need for my Off-Grid setup. And most of the people I know around here would probably be in the same situation. I hear them whining about buying a new 20Amp @ 12V charge controllers and such for $150-$200 all the time.

A better model would be High volume @ Lower prices, then raise the price up as demand becomes higher. That model actually allows you to break into a larger piece of the solar market without strangling people for every last penny.

I know of two people not on this forum that have already built the circuit, verified that it works and are beefing it up to handle far more current. I doubt they would ever sell a finished unit, but you may see some kits out soon.

P.S. I am not hammering on John. I believe everything he has done has been in an Altruistic manner. It's just that alot of us cannot easily afford any of the products produced and sold thus far. The people that need power that these products produce the most are typically the people that have the least cash to spare.

Tad

[ashtweth]

Hi Mark, no one is making any excuses, neither has john,we know why he HAD to do that, go read on PES why he posted the vids and what he was saying. HE SAID THAT BEFORE PRODUCT release. He did his best. He has tried since 1980.

You have to come to terms that unless you have a device and can do the same thing, then you really can;t judge john my friend, no disrespect.

But we know what happened, its obvious. There is no need to trash it or john., if you dont want to help, that's fine. But none of us are interested in who can judge john and not help the situation, its time to come to terms that we have suppression. And its not as easy as you think.
not even Steorn have a generator running yet. But they will soon.

Rick tried to get it out there, i know that on good authority, no more needs to be said on this matter Its better you vent your frustration on energy that can help, john will give us things when it is safe too. ITS UP TO US TO MAKE THOSE CONDITIONS, he and every inventor in history today cannot do it by themselves, life is not that simple, it could be, but in the real world, with these devices it never goes that way.

Ask Rick and Ask john K, they are in a position to know they all wanted to release it the way it was intended. We still got a good charger and can help.

Now i have said waaaay more then is needed, so ill ask every one to reflect on whats said and help if they can, frustration will cause more frustration , so please be good to your selves and lets get on with life and collectively help make a difference. I wont be saying any more on the matter.

Ash

[Aaron]

free energy isn't needed to save the world

There is no one particular magic circuit that "if" it gets released will
save the world and benefit all humanity. It sounds like a good idea
but it isn't even necessary.

It would be the sexy-cool way to "solve" our phony energy crisis but
we have to get real!

I won't even mention what could be done with industrial power production,
because it is preaching to the choir.

The more important thing is what can we do "right here at home" for
ourselves - something WE have control over and can implement...

The average home wastes half the power the home owner/renter pays
for. There are leaks, poor insulation and a whole lot of other things that
allow money to just go up in a puff of smoke.

If it requires 10 solar panels for example to get one particular home
off the grid (simple example - just to make the point)... and if that
home wastes half the energy it uses, it is a waste of money to even
go solar for example.

Seal the leaks, upgrade insulation and add some extra easily available
things to take the insulation well above the phony "standards", and
a handful of other things - you cut your energy usage in half. If it is
electric usage, then you just reduced the amount of solar panels you
need by half to 5 for this example.

And if using something like the Bedini chargers, we'll - it's obvious.

The point is - what - have some cop 15.0 device to power our home
so we can be completely vain and waste half of what that device
produces just because it is in that much of abundance? This is in fact
where most people are sitting right now - in the position to waste
most of what they are going to get from any energy source be it
"free" or not.

The solution isn't to just have some "real goods" energy solution, the
real solution is to wake up and be smart about what we already have
in our hands and be glad we got smart about it!

If every home in the United States used its energy wisely, namely
the heating/cooling and insulation package, the load on the grid would
drop to such a substantial amount there would be surplus for MANY YEARS
without having to ever build another power station - and of course if
industry/commercial did the same, it would be self evident that we have
so much abundance its ridiculous.

Then once a home is using energy wisely, there is the option to go solar,
wind, geothermal heat pump, etc... and all the other things. All the
solutions are already here and could cost WAY less to us if we simply
utilized what we already have in a smarter way.

From the end of July to the 23 of Aug, my electric bill was $49.41 and
my house consumed 647kWh.

As a side note, your power meter doesn't read kWH, it reads kvar
but you're told it is kWh. In any case, 647/4.33 average weeks per month
= 149.42kWh/week divided by 7 days per week = 21.35kWh per day avg
divided by 24 hours per day = 889 watts per hour.

Obviously there are peaks and dips but for that time frame, my home
used an average of 889 watts going nonstop for 24 hours a day 7
days a week for an entire month. That might be a lot to someone that
is 100% solar off the grid and knows how to use power more wisely
than myself but for 6.1 cents per kWh, I'm not worried.

I don't believe in sacrificing my comfort to save a few dollars. I make
my home smart so I can do as I please without being a burden to the
grid or to the pocketbook.

Electric is cheap here anyway, 6.180 cents per kWh for the first 600 kWh
and then 7.178 cent per kWh for the next step over that. But my
electric bill is LESS than half of the neighbors.

I don't even need AC during the summer and it does get to 100F easily
even though I'm up north in Washington state. I open my attic
access panel, I place a common box fan over the hole and plug it in and
make it blow up to the roof. During the hot day, I close all doors and
windows and crack my basement door. It pulls 60F air from my basement,
through the house and up into the attic and this pushes the hot air
in the attic out through the gable and roof vents.

In the evening, I close the basement door and crack some windows
in the right places and with the right opening so the air flow impedances
are matched between the fan and the opening at the windows.

That is because I have a radiant heat reflective coating under every
square inch of paint in the house, aluminum radiant barrier across 1
ft of insulation in the entire attic, high energy efficient windows with
triple silver radiant reflective coating on the glass, etc...

And I don't have a free energy device to power my home ($49.41/month).

It doesn't even cost very much to do what I did and I'm not even done!
I could drop it way more but I'm not doing much more with this house
and am going to lease it out.

Doing the math, the last month electric bill cycle, it cost me $1.63USD
per day for my electricity. I know how to drop this home electricity bill
to $1.00USD or less per day but I'm not even interested at this point - it is
low enough to be very attractive to those that care to lease it.

And I don't even have any serious insulation in the walls (1954 home)! Paint additive
and silver coated windows and radiant barrier in attic does wonders! But
if I wanted to stay here long term, I'd have extra insulation blown into
the walls in addition to putting an insulative AND reflective coating on the
outside of the house and repaint.

WITHOUT a sexy and exotic free energy device, I could use common
and non-sexy solutions that are still free energy devices that are ALREADY
available - geothermal heat pumps, solar water heater, solar cells,
wind power, etc... they're all over 1.0 cop and would drop my bills
substantially - I know that and I don't have to blame anyone for not
making the "real" free energy technology available.

To be perfectly honest, it is irresponsible to wait around for some
cool electrical circuit to come along when all the solutions necessary for
energy independence are ALREADY here and have been even years before
I was born - not suppressed either - just things that have not been given
their due recognition.

But of course if I do anything with battery banks, Bedini is the only
way to go for sure - hands down no doubt about it.

Anyway, this long-winded post is just to point out - there are no excuses
and humanity is NOT suffering because John doesn't release everything
that is proprietary to him. It just isn't in the ballpark of reality to believe
such a thing.

His chargers solve MANY problems - they keep many batteries out
of the junkyard. If someone has money problems - go make connections
at golf courses, etc... and setup a deal to get their junk batteries.
They have to pay someone to haul them away so you're doing them a
favor. Rejuvenate what you can and resell the used batteries in your local
area through Craigslist.

And whatever batteries you can't rejuvenate, sell for scrap.

Go to the scrap yards and test the scrapped batteries - find the ones
that are promising and do some deal with them that they may front you
the batteries for x time and you pay them later for what you keep and
the rest you bring back. Go rejuvenate and sell them.

It is just a matter of creativity and desire. Anyone can make money
out of thin air - turning an idea in to cash on demand just by simply
doing it. Just having these chargers in existence opens up so many
possibilities it's insane!

If some some reason I found myself in a tough financial position and I
thank God everyday that I don't, but if I did, I can practically guarantee
that every golf course in town would be ringing my phone off the hook
begging me for an appointment.

Anyway, as a detail, more and more golf courses are leasing their
golf carts for the fact that they don't want to deal with battery
maintenance. The golf car leasing companies deal with all the battery
issues. But they need help with batteries just as much!

Possibilities are endless, there is plenty of opportunity, Bedini isn't to
blame, there are enough solutions ALREADY available to help humanity
in every way, shape and form including agricultural, psychological,
medical, financial, etc...

With Bedini's solutions, there are simply MORE possibilities and solutions
to go along with what we already have, just in a different specific niche.

[UncleFester]

It would be the sexy-cool way to "solve" our phony energy crisis but
we have to get real!

I agree with everything you said except this line. The power your home uses creates enough pollution every hour to kill you and your family if you were sitting above the stack breathing it in. Most of our energy in this country comes from coal. Ironically I work at the local 100MW coal fired plant when work gets slow, so I see the amount of pollution these plants put out. The toxic substances don't just magically disappear after they go up the stack, and the truck I run to water down the fly ash pile has to be run 24/7 because the fly ash is piled up 200 feet high and over a half mile long.

China is having to build one of these same sized coal fired plants every week to keep up with demand. This my friend is madness, and is totally unsustainable. No amount of upgrades to homes to increase energy efficiency is going to stop the need to build more plants because the human population is still expanding.

This home I live in uses 243 watts continuous. Half of that comes from solar, and half from Vegetable oil running in the diesel generator. Local power is $20,000 if I even wanted it considering I would just be adding to the coal plant capacity required.

There is an energy crisis globally, and no government or government funded science lab is going to solve it. People like Bedini can solve it, and it's going to require many devices to solve different aspects of it. Vehicles, Houses, and mass transport just to name a few will require more and more fossil fuel, thereby creating more and more pollutants until it comes to a massive destructive scenario where the planet can no longer change these pollutants into less harmful forms. Fortunately we are simply at a point that we see the massive pollution levels in all cities in the form of smog, but it doesn't affect us enough to go to extraordinary means to solve it. But I am telling you that very soon it's going to get to that point, and thus it is not a sustainable way of life we are currently living.

People like you and me that are trying to reduce our impact is only a very small part of what needs to be done on a massive scale. I feel sorry for all the children who are going to have to deal with the junk we have spewed out that has made our lives so easy and will make life very difficult for them in the near future.

And yet there are people right now who have the answers and devices world wide that could reduce or eliminate the problems the next generation will ultimately have to deal with. I guess until these technologies come forward on a large scale we will simply continue to act like knuckle dragging cavemen who enjoy their nice lifestyles riding on the backs of dead dinosaurs.

Funny that this type of talk would come from a conservative independent thinker aye? = )

Tad

[Aaron]

solutions are here

Ironically I work at the local 100MW coal fired plant when work gets slow.

China is having to build one of these same sized coal fired plants every week to keep up with demand. This my friend is madness, and is totally unsustainable. No amount of upgrades to homes to increase energy efficiency is going to stop the need to build more plants because the human population is still expanding.

This home I live in uses 243 watts continuous. Half of that comes from solar, and half from Vegetable oil running in the diesel generator. Local power is $20,000 if I even wanted it considering I would just be adding to the coal plant capacity required.

Uncle Fester,

Good to hear your perspective!

We are all hydro and windmill power around here. The closest coal plant
is many miles away somewhere in in Idaho or Montana I think - but point
is I still contribute to the local power company demand and we are
growing at a decent rate around here. Not spectacular thank goodness.

My partners cheaply and easily caused 20% more btu's to be released
than normally is released with coal. That is very significant at the large scale.
And of course that corresponds to a significant drop in emissions as well.
So there are some simple and inexpensive solutions currently available.

That and many other things together add up to a significant difference.
China and India as well are not the norm in expansion. I don't think there is
going to be any kind of explosive growth in this country until we find
a way to simply put people to work building things instead of sending it
out to China, etc... That doesn't look like it is going to happen anytime
soon.

You sound like you have a pretty tight setup!

It is possible for power companies to cut their overall losses from power
generation to delivery by 25%-50% and even more. I'm talking about mostly line losses.
That is highly significant.

One partner of mine has worked with his local PUD for probably 30
years - he was a lineman, engineer, etc... Anyway, it is amazing what
can be done on a big scale.

I'm partially with you on "no amount of upgrades".

Upgrading isn't where it is at. It is building the home right from the
get go. Such as stabilized earth brick homes that are almost 12" thick
with the right coating on both sides = that is a home that is approaching
R-100 insulative value with also radiant reflective properties.

50% of the average home's power consumption is in heating and cooling.
Transforming the building industry into something that is common sense
will cause homes to be built in any quantity which practically need no
heating or cooling system. The bricks are isothermic.

Doing this one change for all practical purposes is like building as many
new homes as you want and the usual need for each home is cut 50%.
That is because if heating and cooling are free by the intrinsic design of the
house, then there is no more capacity required by the power company
to make power to heat and cool a home. Of course this reduces the
continued need for gas, fuel oil, etc... and not just electric generation.

So power companies wouldn't even have to account for increase for
heating and cooling.

The other 50% is lighting, electronics, you name it.

Building the homes with solar tube lighting, solar water heaters,
fridges that interchange it's cold air during cold season with the
outside air, etc... just common sense things like this that have been
around for ages. It does not cost any more to do these things compared
to conventional means and in many cases, its cheaper.

With the SEB homes for example, they're so much more cheaper and
easier to build, superior, fireproof, etc..., and because they cost a
significant amount less compared to a stick built house, those savings can
allow for a home to be pretty much self sufficient for about the same
cost as a conventional home or less.

I really don't buy that we can't do these things now because we can.
Homes can be built so they don't draw anything from the grid and it doesn't
have to cost a fortune. So there could conceptually be a lot more homes
in this world without requiring a proportional amount of energy increase.
Obviously there will still be increases, more movie theaters, more
cars, more grocery stores, etc... that takes energy to do, but in concept
everything can be built self-sustainable.

Commercial buildings, etc... same thing. All the solutions are here and
are not magical.

For example, some of my family is looking at building a new home.
For $160-180k, it can be made out of the earth bricks and off the
grid with a couple thousands kWh average draw 24/7. And that is on
at least 5 acres.

[Farmhand]

making money rejuvinating batteries

Hi all,

I have a question about using our own "one off" replications of John Bedini's devices. I say "one off" as I believe we are only permitted to make one of each of Johns patented devices for personal use.

Is it ok if we use our replications to rejuvinate batteries for monetary gain ?

I ask because i'm having some real success with ni-cads, gell cells and flooded lead acid batteries for myself, friends and family using solar power and Johns machines that I have built, they want to pay me but I wont take money for a few reasons, the main one being that I just don't feel right having not purchased a commercial unit or even a kit, though I have plans to buy a couple of his commercial units I am also having trouble getting the money together.

My intention is to start a small home based buisiness rejuvinating batteries for people and selling rejuvinated batteries (exchanges ect.) I would like to promote both radiant energy and Johns work as well, by telling people what fixed thier battery.

I'm in no real hurry as i'm very busy with other things, i've fixed or conditioned all my batteries and all but one of my devices sit idle waiting for sick batteries to treat.

I feel as though John has given me something precious and I am doing my best to spread the word, however I tend to build things for practicality not looks so my own devices are not that impressive to look at, though the bike wheel ssg does attract some curiosity.

Regards
Andrew

[John_K]

Very good and thought provoking posts...

I just got my winter electricity bill the other day - I used an average of 10kWh per day for the last month and after taxes and surcharges it cost me about US$0.25 per kWh. The winter gas bill (which provides heating and hot water) was another US$350. The heating is supplemented with a log fire that costs US$120 to buy enough wood for the winter.

The figures quoted on the bill for greenhouse gas emissions were not pretty. My consumption is considered "below average" compared to most. We all need to need to make the most of what we have already.

I came across a report the other day the shows a plan to convert Australia to a 100% renewable and zero carbon emissions powered country over the next decade. Sounds impossible? Not according to this report, which bases its plan on proven technology that is already commercially available. If you're interested you can d/l their report (200 pages) or synopsis (15 pages) from Beyond Zero Emissions
I'm not affiliated with them at all, I just came across it.

It gave me a lot more ideas on how to reduce my reliance on the grid and reducing my carbon footprint (which we'll all be taxed for soon).
It's pretty conventional stuff, but just really well thought out as well.

I'll keep building on a small scale for now, but the same principles apply:

1. Get as much free, renewable and zero emissions energy from the environment (solar, wind, hydro, wave, tidal, heat pump, radiant, etc.) that you can get and then store it somewhere so you can use it when you need it.

2. Then, always continue to research into new technology to improve efficiency and reduce total cost of ownership.

So far I have found that Bedini's work is one of the technologies that gets pretty close to following those principles and is one that I can easily research and build. I'm very happy with the Tesla Solar Power Amplifier (same as Ash's pic) that I bought. I'm testing a small off-the-grid setup using the TSPA with a 200W panel to charge up a 12V 130Ah battery which then drives a SS SG that charges up a 12V 650Ah bank, which then runs an inverter.

It's early days in testing yet and I'm still fine tuning, but this should supply me with >250 watts per hour, 24 hours per day when everything is running right. That's around 6kWh per day. Of course that's not counting on losses and days of low sunlight, but I'm also using dual battery banks so I can rest the batteries and as a backup.

The thing is that the sun doesn't always shine, which means if you're just using solar, your batteries aren't always charging. My Tesla Solar Power Amplifier starts charging as soon as it's daylight and charges all day until the sun goes down, whether the sun is out, or it's raining.
But it still doesn't charge 24 hours a day, so during the day it charges up a battery - slowly at first while it is getting light, full charge when the sun is on the panel, and then slowly as the sun goes down. Then the battery rests overnight, waiting to run the SS SG for 24 hours, starting in the morning.
This is how a lead-acid battery like to be charged and loaded if you want long life out of it. The batteries are lasting longer and longer with each cycle.

Am I happy with it and is it worth the money? Yes.

Sorry for the novel...



John K.

[Mark]

Well Aaron I've already got you beat, I used 601 KWH last month and I used my air conditioner, have an electric stove and dryer. My 2000+ sq ft house has the best insulation package and windows I could get 12 years ago when I had it built. I have close to 100 light bulbs which most are led and the rest are cfl. But it is unrealistic to think that the average person is going to spend a large amount of money on new windows, insulation, lighting, solar and everything else you suggest.

A "free energy device" is far more feasable and not only would solve the energy crisis and help with pollution but just think about all the money, fuel, life and resources wasted on going to war over oil. Sure cutting down on consuption would be great if everyone did it. But releasing a device would be far more effective.

Do you really believe that if John shipped out all the solar charges turned up that he would be jailed or executed? I'm sorry but I just don't believe that. After something is released in volume with instructions on how to build it nothing could be done to stop it. And jailing or executing him would only bring more attention and validity to the whole thing. Just the opposite of what the MIB would want. Sorry but I'm still not going to buy that now is not the time.

And by the way when are we going to hear about this new device or charger coming out. I wanted to buy one of the solar charges but the last I heard they were all sold out. And if this new charger is better I'd rather wait for it. What else can you tell us about it.

Mark

[UncleFester]

Upgrading isn't where it is at. It is building the home right from the
get go. Such as stabilized earth brick homes that are almost 12" thick
with the right coating on both sides = that is a home that is approaching
R-100 insulative value with also radiant reflective properties.

50% of the average home's power consumption is in heating and cooling.
Transforming the building industry into something that is common sense
will cause homes to be built in any quantity which practically need no
heating or cooling system. The bricks are isothermic.

That's the whole reason for us moving up here (Show Low, Arizona). We followed Charley (who worked with Bedini back in the 80's) who moved up here before us from Southern California. In California we lived ten miles from where Bedini started out (Irvine), which is where I grew up. Charley came up here after seeing the whole incident with the people who threatened Bedini. Just like Charley, my wife and I wanted to get out of the rat race of southern California and into a situation where we were independent on finances, energy, food, and water.

This area was idea because we have strawbale, papercrete and other highly efficient building methods being used on a moderate scale. Land is cheap (we purchased 30 acres for 1k an acre in cash. No mortgage helps alot too. We are surrounded by large forests and the forestry service lets us cut our own wood from dead oak and juniper and pine, so heating is close to free.

The first mistake we made was buying the property for cash and not leaving enough money left over for batteries, solar panels and inverters. We spent $4000 on all those things which was only about half of what we really needed. We purchased two 24 volt forklift batteries @ 1000AH each. They were reconditioned using a small single coil Bedini SSG, which took about 6 months to do both batteries. They are now sulfated again because they are very difficult to equalize considering they are so high in capacity. It can literally take a week of constant running of the 15KW diesel to equalize them and so it's just not practical to do it that way. In good condition those batteries run this house for a week with no charge, but they sulfate quickly and can lose 2/3's of their capacity.

The mobile home we purchased to live in while we planned out our papercrete earth sheltered home was poorly insulated so we went with polyurethane foam which helps alot, but when it's 20F outside in the winter (we are at 7000 feet) we still go through 4 to 5 cords of wood per year.

Still to this day power is our biggest problem even though Charley and I are putting together systems to solve this. I would love to try the Solar charge system from Bedini, but we just cannot afford it since my work had dried up in this economy. In the meantime I just hide the hairdryer from my wife and have her use the stove instead of the microwave = )

I recondition all the batteries for people in this area who are off grid, but this single coil SSG takes forever to do the T105's and L-16's.

Tad