r-charge / bedini - solar power charger

[3MTAE]

Sorry..

I paid 440$ for my model.

I was one of the first to buy them off the R-Charge Website.

It is Called - Tesla SOlar Power Amplifier

Probably had to change the name cause It doesn't amplify anything. Idk.

I will take 500$ that includes shipping. but I would take 450$ if i had too.

Heck. I might take 400$. 500$ is fair. It's THE ORIGINAL.

YOu know .. the one Bedini Claimed at the time he had to " Tune Down a bit " so he " wouldn't cause trouble" or something like that.

Maybe it is still just " tuned down a bit " and Im just not able to see the results.

Anyway. It's right here. I could post a pic but It's a hassel for me. But i will for serious inquiries.

[John_K]

3MTAE,

You had better be careful about who you are calling defamatory names unless you want to end up in court!

A scam artist is someone who takes money and does not deliver what they advertised or claimed.

Do you have proof of what you have posted?

I have found that the model I paid for does exactly what is advertised. It has also brought back many batteries that could not be charged with a generic battery charger. These are batteries that would have costed hundreds of dollars to replace. It has already paid for itself so I have no problem paying what I did for it.

No one is glorifying anyone here. I'm just stating what I have seen.

Have you considered that everyone else who has purchased this product is actually happy with it?

Can you prove that you can get the same results for way less money? Can you stand by your claims?

And why are you charging so much for a used unit? A brand new unit with 1 year warranty is $350 plus shipping, which to Australia is $48.30 which is about as much as you would pay, much less if you are closer.


John K.

[ashtweth]

I paid 440$ for my model.

I was one of the first to buy them off the R-Charge Website.

It is Called - Tesla SOlar Power Amplifier

Probably had to change the name cause It doesn't amplify anything. Idk.

I will take 500$ that includes shipping. but I would take 450$ if i had too.

Heck. I might take 400$. 500$ is fair. It's THE ORIGINAL.

YOu know .. the one Bedini Claimed at the time he had to " Tune Down a bit " so he " wouldn't cause trouble" or something like that.

Maybe it is still just " tuned down a bit " and Im just not able to see the results.

Anyway. It's right here. I could post a pic but It's a hassel for me. But i will for serious inquiries.

If you can find a safe way to get it out there and tune it back up that would be more helpful, we cant change what is done but can we change the future? There are many contradictions and impressions around, but the future is the same if we digress. Like cancer, it is a wake up call, treat it as such and let work towards finding ways instead of slowing down.

Regards
Ash

[3MTAE]

call my lawyer

john k -

A scam artist is someone who, just weeks before a product line is due to come out, posts a video showing said new technology producing over unity and saying he will provide this technology, also stating he will have to " tune this down a bit" to " not cause trouble"

if you think you got a case i'd love to have our lawyers meet. its funny as hell...

People like me, we speak the truth, always respond to what is posted about, you guys deflect everything and make threats.

Have I thought of the fact people might be happy?? Let's see... I am not happy... few people reporting their happiness with any kinda data to back it up..etc.. those that sell them are very very happy.

Yes. I can prove its cheaper. BUy a regular solar controller and standard battery desulfator. you can almost buy two sets.

Why am I charging so much?? I bought the same model you did... you should know it cost 440$ . and I waited 3 months.

YOu will not wait. I charge 60 bucks for that convience. But I would take 450 and that includes the shipping cost I would have to pay for.

Ash -

I couldn't understand a thing you were trying to say. sorry.

[John_K]

3MTAE,

You need to stop twisting people's words around.

No one said that it was an overunity device. What was said was "here is the input, here is the output. Draw your own conclusions."

I did not threaten you, I just gave you some advice. Do with it what you will it does not bother me. I have not deflected anything, I've only posted what I've seen.

I asked if everyone else was happy. Re-read my post. If you are going to quote me, please do so accurately.

Yes, I sell these chargers as well as all of the other Renaissance Charge products. Why? Because they all do what they are claimed to do. I would not sell a product that doesn't do what it is claimed.

Let me know when you have found a product that is better and cheaper than this one, that is a solar battery charger that can also rejuvenate batteries that can not take a charge with a generic unit. That is also a solar battery charger that can also charge batteries in marginal light.

Post all the details so I can draw my own conclusions and decide if I want to sell it.


John K.

[3MTAE]

Twisting words around??

I never qouted you either. Could you explain that??

John Bedini posted a video on Youtube weeks before the release of his new Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier. If you don't recall the video it is referenced in this forum, I believe earlier in this particular thread...

What John did was post a video showing his new Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier producing Over Unity. During that video he remarked how he would probably have to tune it down a bit ... he was showing nearly 3 times Input to Output ....

John Quickly took the Video down ... but obviously many people saw it and commented about it and so began the HYPE.

It was obviously a ploy and in retrospect probably faked.

He knows people are looking to him and he knows posting a video like that will instantly make people want to buy the product. He implied these Chargers as OverUnity with a well placed marketing strategy.

That covers the Over Unity claim.


In my opinion Telling someone they could end up in court for posting on a public forum is ridiculous.

You sell them and stand by them. They are unique. IF you want the two step process you can save 250$ + shipping.

this forum has produced nothing except for entrepernaural oppurtunities for guys like you and aaron etc etc...

Big whoop. Bedini made a solar controller and a generic battery desulfator into one.

I think people deserve to know its not that great of thing and can be done for cheaper.

The nail in the coffin is you yourself say there's no OU claims and it just does what it says it does... Bedini has the Circuits coated in a Epoxy resin so no one can see what's inside??

is he hiding some secret formula? no. because his device does nothing out of the ordinary.

is he hiding the fact there is nothing in this device worth justifying the price??

probably.

Does what it claims. That is true. But amongst many scam-like moves by Bedini posting that Over Unity VIdeo just before release is manipulative and certaintly makes him and others alot of money for devices that are rather generic.

IF your out there reading this Just know what your buying. You can save alot of money on much much cheaper desulfators and you can simply use an extra step to get the same benefit of the Solar models until someone else combines the two.

That's all I got.

I have my mine for sale. Just look above for details.

Love and BLessings

[John_K]

Twisting words around??

I never qouted you either. Could you explain that??

John Bedini posted a video on Youtube weeks before the release of his new Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier. If you don't recall the video it is referenced in this forum, I believe earlier in this particular thread...

What John did was post a video showing his new Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier producing Over Unity. During that video he remarked how he would probably have to tune it down a bit ... he was showing nearly 3 times Input to Output ....

John Quickly took the Video down ... but obviously many people saw it and commented about it and so began the HYPE.

It was obviously a ploy and in retrospect probably faked.

He knows people are looking to him and he knows posting a video like that will instantly make people want to buy the product. He implied these Chargers as OverUnity with a well placed marketing strategy.

That covers the Over Unity claim.


In my opinion Telling someone they could end up in court for posting on a public forum is ridiculous.

You sell them and stand by them. They are unique. IF you want the two step process you can save 250$ + shipping.

this forum has produced nothing except for entrepernaural oppurtunities for guys like you and aaron etc etc...

Big whoop. Bedini made a solar controller and a generic battery desulfator into one.

I think people deserve to know its not that great of thing and can be done for cheaper.

The nail in the coffin is you yourself say there's no OU claims and it just does what it says it does... Bedini has the Circuits coated in a Epoxy resin so no one can see what's inside??

is he hiding some secret formula? no. because his device does nothing out of the ordinary.

is he hiding the fact there is nothing in this device worth justifying the price??

probably.

Does what it claims. That is true. But amongst many scam-like moves by Bedini posting that Over Unity VIdeo just before release is manipulative and certaintly makes him and others alot of money for devices that are rather generic.

IF your out there reading this Just know what your buying. You can save alot of money on much much cheaper desulfators and you can simply use an extra step to get the same benefit of the Solar models until someone else combines the two.

That's all I got.

I have my mine for sale. Just look above for details.

Love and BLessings

3MTAE,

I'm assuming you are directing this to me, even though you did not address your post.

Let's clear some things up here.

First, my post stated "Have you considered that everyone else who has purchased this product is actually happy with it?". You replied with "Have I thought of the fact people might be happy?? Let's see... I am not happy... few people reporting their happiness with any kinda data to back it up..etc.. those that sell them are very very happy."

It's clear that you are not happy, but that doesn't account for everyone else that has bought the same product and are actually happy with it. I have sold many of these chargers and not one of my customers has told me they are not happy with it.

Secondly, I easily recall the videos that John posted on Youtube - because I watched them again this morning. At no stage did John say that the device in the video was overunity. This is where you are twisting words. Yes, I saw the meters that showed the output meter was showing 3 times the pulse current of the current displayed on the lab power supply. You assumed that this means overunity. It was not faked as I have been able to replicate the same results. John did not imply that it was an overunity product, he said to "draw your own conclusions".

Thirdly, you started posting that you were not happy with what you bought. I don't have any issues with that. Once again, I have merely reported what I have seen from my own experience with the same product. I have not used this to attempt to gain sales or sway anyone's opinion. I let people make up their own mind with the information they are presented with. I don't think I'm being entreprenurial by just stating what I have seen. The fact that I sell the product does not make any difference to whether my batteries will charge or not.

Fourthly, Bedini pots all his products so people don't rip off his designs and illegally sell products that he has patented after many years of research and development. How many great products do you see on the market that come out as a cheap imitation a month or two later? How many inventors are walking around with holes in their shoes because they got ripped off?

Fifthly, I ask you again - post me details of a device that does what this does for a cheaper price. Or feel free to go and design, test, manufacture and and market your own. Then come back and tell me how much it cost you to do that. R&D is not like the lottery where you buy a ticket and you're a millionaire the next day. It takes years of research to get a product to the market, of which time you are paid nothing until someone buys your product.

Lastly, you said "Does what it claims. That is true." So what are you complaining about?

If that's all you got, then this is the end of the matter. Let people decide themselves if they want to believe someone who does not have the facts or can back up their claims, or someone else that has factual proof that the product lives up to what is claimed and advertised.

Godd luck in selling your unit.


John K.

[LouiseRobinson]

There are so many solar-powered gadgets today. It is a big help for us especially in our electrical consumption, because there is no need for us to plug our gadgets on a socket when charging.

Earth 4 Energy Review

[scratchrobot]

Twisting words around??

I never qouted you either. Could you explain that??

John Bedini posted a video on Youtube weeks before the release of his new Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier. If you don't recall the video it is referenced in this forum, I believe earlier in this particular thread...

What John did was post a video showing his new Tesla Switch Solar Amplifier producing Over Unity. During that video he remarked how he would probably have to tune it down a bit ... he was showing nearly 3 times Input to Output ....

John Quickly took the Video down ... but obviously many people saw it and commented about it and so began the HYPE.

It was obviously a ploy and in retrospect probably faked.

He knows people are looking to him and he knows posting a video like that will instantly make people want to buy the product. He implied these Chargers as OverUnity with a well placed marketing strategy.

That covers the Over Unity claim.


In my opinion Telling someone they could end up in court for posting on a public forum is ridiculous.

You sell them and stand by them. They are unique. IF you want the two step process you can save 250$ + shipping.

this forum has produced nothing except for entrepernaural oppurtunities for guys like you and aaron etc etc...

Big whoop. Bedini made a solar controller and a generic battery desulfator into one.

I think people deserve to know its not that great of thing and can be done for cheaper.

The nail in the coffin is you yourself say there's no OU claims and it just does what it says it does... Bedini has the Circuits coated in a Epoxy resin so no one can see what's inside??

is he hiding some secret formula? no. because his device does nothing out of the ordinary.

is he hiding the fact there is nothing in this device worth justifying the price??

probably.

Does what it claims. That is true. But amongst many scam-like moves by Bedini posting that Over Unity VIdeo just before release is manipulative and certaintly makes him and others alot of money for devices that are rather generic.

IF your out there reading this Just know what your buying. You can save alot of money on much much cheaper desulfators and you can simply use an extra step to get the same benefit of the Solar models until someone else combines the two.

That's all I got.

I have my mine for sale. Just look above for details.

Love and BLessings

Hi 3MTAE I share your opinion. In the video Bedini said that everyone should draw his own conclusion and there were people who believed that the device was ou and could be looped. At the time I also wanted to order a unit but now I'm glad I did not.

Regards

[John_K]

Another satisfied customer!

Here is a testimonial from someone who purchased one of the Renaissance Charge Tesla Solar Trackers. Reproduced by permission.

"The Tesla Solar Tracker replaces the regular charge controller, I have a 24 volt 20amp one on my RV with 400 amp/hr batteries, works great, was even charging at nigh with a lighning storm going on. Had it hooked up before I put it on the RV to recover some old batteries that my other Bedini chargers couldn't take any higher in voltage and the solar charge controller pushed the voltage way higher. I love it, it pushes the 24 volt system on my RV to over 30 volts when in the desulphate mode. Can't wait to get a 48 volt one to replace my Xantrex MPPT on my 2000 watt house system, it's a good charge controller but it switches of in low light where the Bedini Tracker keeps going."


John K.

[stonewater]

why they are so expensiver

There is one very troubling detail in all of this:

The pricing of the various units.

Is there some reason that they must be so expensive?

The "common people" who could most benefit from
such devices are, for the time being, excluded by the
high cost.

Or, is there some plan to make the "plans" available
for the World?

In truth, the concepts employed in the device are
very easy to duplicate. Many who have given it
thought have already figured it out and are making
their own devices.

Now, that is a plan!

Because it is built by John at his shop, in america, by hand, one at a time. zantrex and morningstar are built in china, or at least sourced there. every charger built by them is built by hand. no machines stuffing boards, no wave soldering, all point to point soldering like a hi end audio amplifier.

no one complains about a 4.50 mocha from starbucks, I watch people walk in and out all day long with their preppie crack in hand. your charger will last you a lifetime.