Renaissance November Workshop Convention

[electricity]

Pure specultaions and Nature's truth

electricity made the statement that many people have tried to build the Watson device and failed. I was just wondering who those people might be. I can find no evidence of anyone even trying to duplicate it, let alone FAILING. And I have searched the internet. I was just wondering if this was another of those blanket statements that "This device doesn't work" when the person who makes the statement hasn't TRIED to build it, and doesn't know anyone who has. I, on the other hand, HAVE tried to build a Watson device. I am lacking one essential part, which is the motor to drive it which needs to have a wound rotor and wound stator, and for MY device, a 1/2 inch shaft. When I finally get one, I will let you know whether it works or not. I can drive the device with a drill or a 12 volt motor and it produces energy as claimed. But until I get the CORRECT motor driving it, I make no claims as to what it will do.

YouTube - 11Turion's Channel

I am new to this field but am a very quick learner. One sensory that you must have is your natural rights of conscious censory.

The Watson generator is a variant of an old flux gate generator, Brown Ecklin that was patented back in the 1970s. Bedini had made improvements upon it and labelled it G-Field generator. It is very simple. I am sourcing proper materials and will attempt replication. Where does one get soft iron laminates at $avings?.

There are literally 1000s of pages of discussion on this proven overunity devise. Google using related phrase not watson etc. try this site fluxgate generator

You need a high effecient motor that will spin your generator at above 2200 rpm for Lentzless quality. I found a salvage geared German motor from a commercial copier. Look around, be resourceful. Also, there is more to your coil that need to be done. There's info posted by Bedini in defense of his devise from Naudins failed replication, tells you quite a bit. I'll dig up the link.

Everyone has a price, it seems that they all had sold out hence the tail chasing confusion in this forum.


We need to understand first the True Nature of Electricity and Magnetism. I am well on my way.

[Aaron]

forget the myths

We need to understand first the True Nature of Electricity and Magnetism. I am well on my way.

That's right. Start with forgetting about conservation of energy
and other false myths that keep people from seeing the truth.

Spent most of the day yesterday at Bedini's with Peter and just hope
more people will see the value of coming. I've seen many things over the
last ten years that I've known John and you all are in for some exciting
things!

[Turion]

Carroll,
Thanks for the link. At one time I believe Peter said that they both need to be series wound. I will have to check my notes on that. Found it. Here's what Peter said:

There is another interesting feature of the Watson Machine that is usually overlooked, and that is the motor. The salvaged aircraft starter/generator unit was essentially a system that had a wound field and a wound rotor, with a brush commutator. It was probably SERIES WOUND. This means that when the motor is offered electric current from the battery, it will produce bursts of TORQUE. It also means that when the motor is disconnected from the battery, it will produce NO back EMF and NO DRAG except for the brush friction.

[electricity]

Nature's Truth is priceless, it's free and abundant!

@Aaron
I'm on my wat to Nature's Lab, it's simple and pure.

Your confrence sure sounds like it's gonna be a fun, entertaining packed event.

@Turion,
Look no further than above quote, abandon the myths, all of it including your precious notes.

Watson's generator is a re-packaged deal. Happy experimenting!
G-Field V1.1 Test Report

Aircraft starter is pricey, get your motor from an office equipment repair shop, heck it might even be free.

[Peter Lindemann]

Forget the Myths, Part 2

I am new to this field but am a very quick learner.

The Watson generator is a variant of an old flux gate generator, Brown Ecklin that was patented back in the 1970s. Bedini had made improvements upon it and labelled it G-Field generator. It is very simple. I am sourcing proper materials and will attempt replication.

There are literally 1000s of pages of discussion on this proven overunity devise. Google using related phrase not watson etc. try this site fluxgate generator

You need a high effecient motor that will spin your generator at above 2200 rpm for Lentzless quality.

Everyone has a price, it seems that they all had sold out hence the tail chasing confusion in this forum.

We need to understand first the True Nature of Electricity and Magnetism. I am well on my way.

Dear electricity,

Indeed, you are a beginner. Thanks for "endorsing" the so called "Brown-Ecklin" flux gate machine. It just so happens, I invented it. Here is the first Patent Document I filed on the design in 1981. Paul Brown's first report on this machine was published in June, 1982. There are many letters in my files from John Ecklin. One states that if I would send one of the first working models of the generator to Stanford Research Institute for testing, that I would win his Contest for developing the Lenzless Generator.



If you want to know more about how this machine came into existence, this link is better: fluxgate generator

John Bedini's "G-field" generator is a replication of the Raymond Kromrey machine.

You come into this forum with lots of bluster, but you don't know who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

Peter

[electricity]

Hast thou spoken, and yet not taught

Dear electricity,

Indeed, you are a beginner. Thanks for "endorsing" the so called "Brown-Ecklin" flux gate machine. It just so happens, I invented it. Here is the first Patent Document I filed on the design in 1981. Paul Brown's first report on this machine was published in June, 1982. There are many letters in my files from John Ecklin. One states that if I would send one of the first working models of the generator to Stanford Research Institute for testing, that I would win his Contest for developing the Lenzless Generator.

If you want to know more about how this machine came into existence, this link is better: fluxgate generator

John Bedini's "G-field" generator is a replication of the Raymond Kromrey machine.

You come into this forum with lots of bluster, but you don't know who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

Peter

Dear Peter
Thank you once again for your efforts in clarification of the matter. I was refering to the US-patent No.3,879,622 of 1975.
Permanent magnet motion conversion device

The Kromrey generator is a precursor of the Ecklin-generator. It contained already a closed flux which is switched periodically by rotation. The rotor coil still has windings on it like a normal generator. The generator had already anti-Lenz behaviour, i.e. lower torque with increasing current from the generator. The efficiency was about 1.

In a Bedini generator of 1985 the rotor consists of two parallel rotating opposite faced permanent artificial horseshoe magnets (made by two cylindical permanent magnets bound by a soft iron) whose common circuit of magnetic flux is closed periodically by two stationary iron cores which are wound around by coils each which deliver the energy of the generator. The oscillogram shown by Bedini confirms qualitatively our calculated diagram. It contains a positive and a negative pair of spikes because the direction of the flux through the coils alterates every half rotation. Bedini restored already the energy from the generator back into a battery by use of a switching power electronic. The energy of the battery delivered enough power to drive the motor of the generator and, because of the overunity efficiency of the generator, a further battery could be charged additionally.

It seems that there is a large number of people here who are desperately trying to replicate this devise. Please elaborate on the areas leading to difficulties.

I will greatly appreciate if you would be kind enough to define Electricity in layman's term.

Regards,
electricity

[john_g]

Hi

I'm flying out to the conference tomorrow , staying at the resort- just wondering if any forum members will be there kicking around on Friday and want to meet up?

Regards

John

[Mr.Whip]

Hello All,
I for 1 am very sorry that I wouldn't be able too attend such a great event. I'm in DanDong China right now(NOT A NATIVE) I can't even get YouTube threw these chinese servers. But I would pay anything for a video or DVD of this workshop. I don't post too often because I'm busy like many building. And Reading through others post. I don't want to clutter a good subject with my babbling or misunderstanding, I just read and research or build. When the DVD come's out I'll buy it also. I'm sure its going to be hard to keep up with all your post after the event. But looking forwards too reading them all.

Envy for all that can make it.
Gradatude for those who contributed.
Mr.Whip

PS Hea Ash I'm still planning on visiting (Panacea) you once I get to Au. I just got hung up here in China till the first of 2011. Mabey I could do some volunteer work.

[electricity]

Hello All,
I for 1 am very sorry that I wouldn't be able too attend such a great event. I'm in DanDong China right now(NOT A NATIVE) I can't even get YouTube threw these chinese servers. But I would pay anything for a video or DVD of this workshop. I don't post too often because I'm busy like many building. And Reading through others post. I don't want to clutter a good subject with my babbling or misunderstanding, I just read and research or build. When the DVD come's out I'll buy it also. I'm sure its going to be hard to keep up with all your post after the event. But looking forwards too reading them all.

Envy for all that can make it.
Gradatude for those who contributed.
Mr.Whip

PS Hea Ash I'm still planning on visiting (Panacea) you once I get to Au. I just got hung up here in China till the first of 2011. Mabey I could do some volunteer work.

This site has an amazing audiance. Global coverage too with impressive Alexa rating. Too bad there's not a single physical devise to back up the hype!.

Don't get too excited yet, lets wait and see what comes of it.

Why are you not building something, China is the source for all of these materials, materials are 10% of the price here in the US. I was looking for those 6" toroid core, they are real cheap over there. I need one for a Bob Boyce cell, I have a hard time finding a Retail source here without having to buy minimum quota from the factory.

[Duncan]

This site has an amazing audiance. Global coverage too with impressive Alexa rating. Too bad there's not a single physical devise to back up the hype!.

Don't get too excited yet, lets wait and see what comes of it.

Why are you not building something, China is the source for all of these materials, materials are 10% of the price here in the US. I was looking for those 6" toroid core, they are real cheap over there. I need one for a Bob Boyce cell, I have a hard time finding a Retail source here without having to buy minimum quota from the factory.

Hi Electricity This site carriesCourtiestown Marine Limited items - Get great deals on items on eBay.co.uk Shops!Dave Lawton, Bob Boyce and certain Bedini Components, They will sell in kit form or constructed and tested, The components are endorsed by the original inventor who receives a % of each sale. They did and probably still carry the toroids, worth an email I would think. Mind you as you say no chance of competing with china but they might sell you one instead of 2000
good luck with it!

[ashtweth]

Hello All,
I for 1 am very sorry that I wouldn't be able too attend such a great event. I'm in DanDong China right now(NOT A NATIVE) I can't even get YouTube threw these chinese servers. But I would pay anything for a video or DVD of this workshop. I don't post too often because I'm busy like many building. And Reading through others post. I don't want to clutter a good subject with my babbling or misunderstanding, I just read and research or build. When the DVD come's out I'll buy it also. I'm sure its going to be hard to keep up with all your post after the event. But looking forwards too reading them all.

Envy for all that can make it.
Gradatude for those who contributed.
Mr.Whip

PS Hea Ash I'm still planning on visiting (Panacea) you once I get to Au. I just got hung up here in China till the first of 2011. Mabey I could do some volunteer work.

Hi Mr Whip/ALL

I am busting my nuts to try and get the SS Steorn board done for John K and skype, seems the components in bulk orders will be a while Sorry guys . Ill do my best to pull a rabbit out of a hat, wanted to contribute some thing for you guys and thank you all personally for attending the event. Seems i am cursed with delays on this thing

Always welcome here my friend. Plenty of ORGANIC raw food and local engineers who are all supportive of the years of hard work Peter, Aaron and John /all have done. Just bring a big USB drive with you that's all i can say

[Mr.Whip]

Hi Mr Whip/ALL

I am busting my nuts to try and get the SS Steorn board done for John K and skype, seems the components in bulk orders will be a while Sorry guys . Ill do my best to pull a rabbit out of a hat, wanted to contribute some thing for you guys and thank you all personally for attending the event. Seems i am cursed with delays on this thing

Always welcome here my friend. Plenty of ORGANIC raw food and local engineers who are all supportive of the years of hard work Peter, Aaron and John /all have done. Just bring a big USB drive with you that's all i can say

We know you are trying hard with the Steorns project. And I think we all wish the conference well. I'm sure those who go will be well satisfied with their visite and what They have gained by being there. Looking forwards to the fresh org. Veggies. And I alwas carry a laptop 2 USB HD's and a thumb drive or 2 LOL.

I'm really excited for the ones that are going to the conference. I can't wait to stay up and read the posts. Enjoy All

Mr.Whip

[minoly]

Here is a tribute and possible motivation for anyone who is sitting on the fence:

"http://tinyurl.com/3pmPart1"
"http://tinyurl.com/3pmPart2"

Please note: this is only a quick 20-minute video.
We had to split it, we tried several times to get it under 15 minutes and could not.
We overlapped the split so people should not question. (suck fish if you do :-)
Pay close attention to the voltage readings. These are batteries we have been cycling for over a year now. We know the batteries and their behavior inside out, and although in the vid I make light of floating voltages, these are not floating! Please also note: this is w/o the cap pulser ckt.

I see a few have watched it,
Not a single comment?…
I thought this is what this forum is all about

20 minutes too long for that instant gratification? – Watch the first 2 minutes and the last 2 minutes – see the reading on the primary – let alone the charging…

Come-on, my 11 year old “got this”(understood) when he was 10!

I’ll be curious to see the differences in Steorns ckt behavior compared to JB’s

[Turion]

minoly,
I watched, and it looks good. With batteries it is always hard to tell. You have to see what the resting voltage drops to after they have been allowed to sit for a while. Keep up the great work. Others are ALWAYS watching when you take the trouble to post, even if they don't acknowledge it.

[minoly]

minoly,
I watched, and it looks good. With batteries it is always hard to tell. You have to see what the resting voltage drops to after they have been allowed to sit for a while. Keep up the great work. Others are ALWAYS watching when you take the trouble to post, even if they don't acknowledge it.

Hi Turion,
thanks for the comment. please note what I wrote.
these are not floating voltages.
we only did a short 20 minute video for youtube show. we have tested, drained, re-energized, and documented these batteries, for a long time now.
I have explained how we did this on the Bedini monopole 2 group at yahoo. come read all about it...
YouTube - 3 Pole Monopole Part 1
YouTube - 3 Pole Monopole Part 2.