Renaissance November Workshop Convention

[electricity]

I want to eat my cake too!

C'mon, you sound like a well meaning and educated person. Please don't insult people. It is ok to be skeptic. Not being able to see what's in front of you calls for an eye exam but perfecting denial despite to the contrary evidence is just ignorant and I hope you don't mean it. I don't have a lot resources to replicate what has been achieved already. I regret ordering a rotor for my device because it would pay for the Conference attendance but I don't regret any minute spent studying John Bedini, working, sharing and learning with great people on this forum. What you have said about not seeing a single free running device is discrediting years of other people work and simply not accurate.


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But of course, I drool at John's 10 coiler monopole churning out all of those P - we'll why can't I get the same result?.

So are we being teased and then provided with schematics that produces engineered low P?. That's what it seems like. I dunno. Has anyone ever gotten Free Usable P?. 2 light bulbs don't count, I mean Kw/hr output as that is what it is.

I have been looking around and I see much better solutions that are far easier to implement.

Does it really take 3 decades to perfect the SSG to a level of mass replication?. I don't buy that, not one bit.

Heck, I'm just venting for all of those wasted hr and $$ that have parted me, but hey, I did learn something. I am done with learning, I want result now, not next week nor next year.

But I know that only I can produce excessive units of E. Not you, not Lindermann, not Aaron even though that have done quite a bit with this site. But Please, release Real Useful Knowledge that We can utilize for our energy needs. No more Games, No more Selling.

@Bits,
Please, so yo have Working Free Energy Devise, great, I'm ready to buy.
How much energy will it produce, and I don't want those little LED drivers.
Where do I buy and How much?

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

@Bits,
Please, so yo have Working Free Energy Devise, great, I'm ready to buy.
How much energy will it produce, and I don't want those little LED drivers.
Where do I buy and How much?

You are truly missing a moment in history;



YouTube - MachineOfTime1's Channel

But now I am finished with you as you do not want to learn. All you want to do is Buy (business as usual).

[citfta]

If we ignore him will he go away?

Hi gang,

Just got back home a little while ago myself. Thanks so much to all the people involved in putting on a life changing event. I have over 50 years experience working with electricity and electronics. I am not easily fooled by gadgets. I was truly amazed by what I saw and heard at the conference. How someone who wasn't even there can make such stupid statements about the conference just shows how little they really know. My advice guys is to ignore the ignorant nay sayers and let's get to work. We now have enough info to make a real difference.

It was such a great pleasure to meet so many of the people I call my friends from this forum there. Now I can put faces with the names. Thanks again for all the hard work and great efforts it took to make this an unforgettable weekend.

Carroll

[ashtweth]

Next sensation was Jeff Wilson's presentation of my 10 coiler running in a self-sustaining mode with additional power running two bulbs. More about this later. I announced today that we will begin selling the battery swapper as a new Renaissance product in two months. I'll put this up as preorder on the site tomorrow for $1200. Jeff said he was almost beat up over all the interest in this. We have been working with Jeff on several products lately.

Im am proud of every one, especially the people that went there, as this is a Team effort to get this technology out, its a bigger picture there, but in particular i am especially proud to say our own open source engineer kicked butt !!! He had the looper there...Never underestimate OPEN SOURCE.


Thanks to Luther and all for helping Rick, I really wished i could of helped some how guys, next one i am gonna make sure i can at least do some thing to help there. Real proud of all for making a difference there.
Thanks to all that went there and thanks for the report Jeff.

Sincerely
Ash

[ashtweth]

But of course, I drool at John's 10 coiler monopole churning out all of those P - we'll why can't I get the same result?.

So are we being teased and then provided with schematics that produces engineered low P?. That's what it seems like. I dunno. Has anyone ever gotten Free Usable P?. 2 light bulbs don't count, I mean Kw/hr output as that is what it is.

I have been looking around and I see much better solutions that are far easier to implement.

Does it really take 3 decades to perfect the SSG to a level of mass replication?. I don't buy that, not one bit.

Heck, I'm just venting for all of those wasted hr and $$ that have parted me, but hey, I did learn something. I am done with learning, I want result now, not next week nor next year.

But I know that only I can produce excessive units of E. Not you, not Lindermann, not Aaron even though that have done quite a bit with this site. But Please, release Real Useful Knowledge that We can utilize for our energy needs. No more Games, No more Selling.

@Bits,
Please, so yo have Working Free Energy Devise, great, I'm ready to buy.
How much energy will it produce, and I don't want those little LED drivers.
Where do I buy and How much?

electricity, i usually try and be diplomatic and not waste too much time to help people who cannot help themselves at a very basic level. Jeff achieved what he did progressively and through STUDY and experimentation, he wants others to pick it up and contribute, if you only want to buy some thing, subscribe to Rick's newsletter, please dont bother us here.

Thanks
Ash

[Mark]

Hello Bits or anyone that can answere my questions:

Did Ricks lawn mower only have one battery bank? One bank to power the lawn mower while charging at the same time? If so did the battery bank increase in voltage after running it? Did he use the bipolar circuit?

Was the Watson machine demonstrated? If so can you describe what you observed.

The $1200.00 Battery swapper that is mentioned, is that the unit you designed and built Bits. If it is, does it do more then rotate which batteries are being used for input and which ones are being charged. The reason I ask is if it will have any other practicle uses other then what your doing with it. No offense intended it just seems a little pricey.

Thanks, Mark

[Spokane1]

My take on the first day of the Bedini convention Part I

My take on the Bedini conference – bits and pieces for the first day:

The Saga of the Motor Kits
The idea of having a hand’s on kit was a great idea that unfortunately fell upon the hard on the rocks of reality. The first among the many annoying challenges was that not enough of the little button neo-magnets came in, so they had to issues kits less the magnets, so there was no point in assembling those kits. There was no difference between the people who had paid their fees in advance or paid at the door. Who got a kit was determined by where you were in that second line. There was no general announcement about the purpose of the kit receiving line. By the time many had learned this fact through the grape vine - the complete kits were gone. The next issue was the lack of documentation. Well? what does one expect from a Free Energy Kit? A text book? Having complete documentation would not fit the tradition of this pursuit – so full speed away anyway. In the bag there was an exploded view of the basic assemble in color, but no other instructions. A copied color circuit diagram was passed out an hour later. Now there was a CD in the set which perhaps had a lot of good information on it, but no computers, cameras, or other recording devices were allowed, so the CD was useless. There were four prewired coils in the set. There were three variations of windings. There were no notes as to which coil went where. This is where the table teamwork came into play. A gentleman at our table,(With a PhD in electronics doing electron detector design) from Bend, OR, and a lot of Bedini Motor building experience offered his best advice to determine which coil went where. The next assumed step was the insertion of the iron rods into the core of the electromagnets. Now, it took at least 11 rods to fill the small central tube, if 10 rods were inserted they would all quickly fall out. But, to get the 11th rod in required a press or a hammer. It just so happen that our man from OR had a tack hammer in his car and his wife went to fetched it. In short order we were taking turns banging on the table to jam 11 rods into the cores of these coils. At our table there were 7 kits being assembled with 4 coils for each kit. The noise became obvious. I was using my Leatherman and it was still a challenge. Then came the announcement that hammering on the table would not be allowed by the hotel management. Well, we had a hammer and the rest of those other tables didn’t, Neener, Neener, Neener! So the work migrated to the steel chair legs, which didn’t work out to bad. Eventually the hammer got passed around our neighborhood of tables. Next came the realization that the provided long rods had to go in a specific coil. Many of us had guessed the wrong coil and adjustment had to be made (more hammering). Getting the rods out was even harder that putting them in. Meanwhile the rest of the convention was to catch up with us. The first secret handshake reveled by the speaker was that the inside of the rotor – that easily snapped together in a plastic case with three weights and three magnets needed to have two small “O” rings installed prior to closing the case. These were included to better hold the shaft in place- which they did a great job of doing one they were put in place, however, opening that case back up was a *****. It required a minimum of a knife and a screw driver to accomplish the task. Obviously there were not that many screwdrivers brought along so construction efforts came to a screeching halt at other tables. But not at this table, our PhD. Electronic Instrument designer came through with a screw driver as well as the hammer. So in went the “O” rings. Next came the announcement from the podium that all three magnets had to be placed with N facing out. Great, to accomplish this one needed a compass. Somehow, someone, (or two attendees) had a compass with them. Once the rotation could be established then one magnet (or actually a magnet installed in a rotor) could be used to check the orientation of several other motors. This whole issue was resolved in about 45 minutes as a reference rotors made their rounds through the hall. It was sort of like a chain reaction with one properly constructed rotor being used to check 3 or 4 more. But this turned out to be a minor slowdown compared to what was coming next. Now the pre-wound coils were designed to snap into place, which was pretty obvious, however the magnet wire was wound through the mounting holes. I have no idea what the reason was for this – easier winding perhaps? My solution was to just press fit it over the mounting studs. Wrong guess. On one coil the pressure sheared off the wire. Now I had to make repairs. It happened on the bifilar coil, so I had no way to determine which wire needed to be reconnected to the other. By now Bedini’s staff was distributing an accessory bag, one per table; it contained a Harbor Freight $3.00 DVM (on sale), 10 jumpers, super glue, a 9V battery w/ connector, and some other useful stuff. I was able to secure one of these bags from a young woman who was handing them out. With the DVM I was able to make the repairs. But the correct solution was far from obvious. Since I was ahead of everyone else and my table mates didn’t want to follow in my footsteps so construction slowed down a bit until a “fix’ could be extracted from the mass consciences of the other tables. One of our table members unwound one of his coils so that that he could remove the wire that went through the mounting hole. This was one solution, but time consuming since he had to rewind about 100’ feet #23 AWG. There were four coils that needed this treatment. I didn’t pay attention to what ever directions were finally announced from the podium. Apparently there was some trick to get the wire out of the hole and secure the magnet wire with small nylon ties provided, however one coil was bigger than the wire tie could handle. So the PhD’s wife went to the front desk and secured some Scotch Tape. Now we were ready to deal with the 20 or so electrinc components. 12 white LED’s, 3 transistors, 7 resistors, 8 diodes, 3 each NE-2 lamps, one grain of wheat lamp, a DPDT mini-toggle switch and some small cut sections of a copper coated circuit board. Now the real Viper bit. A soldering iron was needed. The grand plan of the convention organizers was to have a table where experienced volunteers with a few soldering irons would assemble one kit per table. What a train wreck. They ended up with only 2 working solder stations and one of those was using a 250 watt Weller (which will kill TO-92 case 2N222 transistors unless you are very good and have a steady hand). The intent was to solder the components onto the little strips of copper coated board, which, if you had the time would be workable, but very slow. The volunteers quickly resorted to wiring the networks in a free style web of components – which would make even an experience modern artist proud. Even this was taking a long time and mistakes were probably being made given the intense demand and limited resources. I noticed that at least two solder stations had already failed and were piled up on an adjoining table. The announced plan was to leave your bag of components on the table with your name on it and then check to see when they were soldered together. Right, not too many people were going to let their kit out of sight. So, they stood there while the work was being done. Of course conversation soon ensued and this slowed down production. They had one 3’ x 8’ banquette table with two people soldering and about 25 people crowded around it. By this time I had given up on making the kit. Without a solder iron the game was pretty well over. Then come to find out that the schematic that was handed out near the start of the project had a different pin-out for the transistors than what was showing, So those few who did have their components soldered were experiencing failures as their transistor blew out upon the application of power.

By the end of the day I only saw one operating kit out of some 350 kits issued. It was still a great exercise and certainly got people to work together and come up with creative solutions but the challenges were just too great. By 4:00pm the kits were being re-bagged up and set on the floor while people engaged in conversation that was more productive than building incomplete kits without proper tools and documentation. If there is a follow up convention with a hands on session (which I would certainly attend) I’m sure several procedural improvements will be made. This certainly isn’t your typical convention.

Spokane I

[Spokane1]

My take on the Bedini conference – bits and pieces for the first day: Part II

The Attendance:
I was amazed at the number of people that showed up and how far away they came to visit this obscure part of the country. I thought that if 50 or so people showed up it would be a huge success. Now the total number of attendees wasn’t mentioned, but there were 40 table with 8 chairs each (=320) and an additional 50 people sitting in overflow chairs in the back. There were also several additional people milling around. So there could have been as many as 400+ interested attendees including John’s staff. They ran out of motor kits and had to assemble several more on Sunday morning to meet the demand. It was rumored that there were a huge number of “pay at the door” late arrivals that caused the slow down. The convention filled up three of the CDA meeting rooms at this 4-star hotel.

The first researcher I met on my way in from the parking lot was a gentleman from New Hampshire. He figured that the value of the motor kit we got (for sale on the Internet for $210) was worth the cost of entrance, plus we got two boxed lunches (which were pretty good). So he was pretty happy with the price. Once inside I met people from, Spain, Holland, Costa Rica, Australia, and Canada. I know there were also people from France, Great Britain, and Japan - not to mention several other countries. One gentleman in line said, ”This is supposed to be the conference of the decade”. Somebody must have really be talking this event up.

I got there about 7:30 from Spokane and there was already 56 people (I counted them) standing outside the meeting rooms. At about 7:45 am Bedini’s staff started handing out registration sheets that repeated the requirements of no cameras, PC’s, VCR’s, or other electronic recording equipment. There was also the waiver of liability for exposure to high voltage and the use of tools. It was only a one sided form so it was not very detailed. I suppose the hotel had a lot to say about how the liability issues were to be addressed.

By 8:05 the hallway was packed with more people than I could count. It was a challenge to get to the restroom. This was defiantly becoming a blocking hazard.

Bedini’s staff was really caught off guard with the sheer volume of people that showed up. They had anticipated opening the doors at 8:00 am and finish the registration by 8:15 (ha, ha). They opened the doors at 8:25 with only about 20% of the registration completed. The people who were paying at the door really slowed things down. No matter, people were having a gay old time in the hall. It was interesting, you could go up to anybody and strike up a conversation and in a few minutes there would be these clusters of 3-5 people talking about some area of research that was interest to them all. If the topic at hand was of little interest you could walk a few feet and join another group that was discussing what you wanted to learn about.

Introductions and first Speakers:
When the doors were opened a flood of people entered the plush convention rooms where there was a video going on about peak oil on two screens. It might have been a good flick but it ended about 5 minutes after we got settled. A younger well spoken man named Rick (an employee of John’s) was the lieutenant who was running the show. After the formal introductions and acknowledgements were made a man named Gordy (a retired Fireman) was the first speaker. He was a local fabricator of electric cars. There was nothing OU in his talk but a lot of interesting slides and discussion about the engineering, performance, & cost realities of electric cars. Did you know it takes 17 lbs of lead from a battery to go 1 mile? I didn’t. Some of the photos of conversions he had done showed would make me think again if I ever considered an electric vehicle that could operate for more than 40 miles. The amount of space taken up by lead-acid batteries becomes immense. They had on display up front an electric motorcycle, bicycle, lawn mower and a converted small 4 door car. Gordy’s hope for this technology was its claimed ability to rejuvenate wet-cell batteries. Using the present classical battery charging methods –even with good care - the huge investment in car batteries starts to fade away after three or so years (sooner if design capacities are exceeded). Gordy’s desire was to see the Bedini technology extend the life of the batteries used in electric vehicles by 2X or greater- thus reducing the overall cost of electric vehicles. I guess we shall see, it will take years before that beta test market results come in.

Next on the agenda came the machinist (tool maker) who made all the injection molds to fabricate the pulse motor kits. His work was good and the quality right up there. However he, also, didn’t have a clue about how the technology really worked. Never the less he was fired up about the potential of what might be discovered.

After that came a younger crew cut man (in his 30’s?) named “Bits” who also worked for John. His contribution was adding a digital control system to some of the Battery Charger models to enhance their operation. With all the modes of operation and various applications involved in the Bedini product it was just a matter of time before an on-board micro-controller would be needed. Mr. Bits special interest was his digital method to switch weaker batteries in and out of a bank of batteries. These would be charged individually then switched back into the array. This was all done with a PIX18 micro-controller. This was all pretty much classical digital engineering stuff. Again Bits didn’t have a clue as to how the charger that he was controlling actually worked. However this idea of selecting weak batteries to be topped off is important in large battery arrays where weak batteries can be destroyed by the others if they fall too far out of line. I think they were mentioning something about applications for larger photovoltaic systems.

A Motor Kit in hand is worth how many that will be shipped later????
I wasn’t paying too much attention by this time. There was another long line forming along the south wall in the hall. It was rumored that you had to get in that line to receive your kit (before they ran out). So I quickly wandered up there and took my chances to receive a complete my motor kit (I was lucky). Apparently PayPal had dropped the ball by failing to include all the paying attendees on the printed out master list. People who had already paid in full had to plead their case without the benefit of their electronic documents to get their bag of parts because they were forbidden to bring their laptops into the conference room. It didn’t take many problems like this to slow down distribution. There was only one man who could check you off the master list – so people had to wait. It took me about 45 minutes to get a kit – but there was lot of iced diet Coke on that side of the room to drink. In fact diet Coke didn’t move well with this crowd at all and there were several cans left over at the evenings close. (Hot water for tea was another matter- it was gone in the first few hours) For the next hour I attempted to put this collection of components together with no instructions. It was deceivingly simple – like most Free Energy puzzles.

Part I went Here


Lunch Break:
Around 1:15 pm a lunch break was called and many of us picked up a black cardboard box lunch that were stacked up on tables outside the meeting rooms. Both meat and vegetarian selections were offered. On the menu for Saturday was a Chicken wrap sandwich with corn chips, a large oatmeal -chocolate chip cookie, an apple, celery and carrot sticks with ranch dressing.


People scattered in all directions. The local hotel coffee shop (Called Dockside) was packed with attendees filling up booths without buying drinks. This was because where people were told to go. The next day the hotel informed Rick that such a migration was not their desire and they made available another empty meeting room with tables to handle the lunch crowd.

I was fortunate to get a seat near the fire place. Here I had the good fortune to talk to an alternative high school physics teacher (who later spoke at the convention) and a researcher who had investigated the E.V.Gray Technology more deeply than most. He had talked to Richard Hackenberger’s brother and Dorothy McCllephs (E.V. Gray’s last secretary) in 1991. He also claimed to have in his possession the original EMA4-E1 battery operated mini-model that he acquired from Dorothy for $100. Some people have all the luck.

After about 1-1/2 hour people started wandering back into the meeting rooms and those that could continue working on their models. Most everyone else spent time in table conversation. People were milling around forming small discussing groups in the corridors and hallways.

Several people were attempting to view all the motors and battery chargers that were displayed at the front of the room. Peter Lindemann and his wife Jackie had a couple of tables set up for their business Clear-Tech. They were selling books, CD’s and other Free energy items. I didn’t get that close. It looks like they were doing a pretty good business and besides I already have most everything Peter has published. Then again Christmas is coming and I could have loaded up on gifts for the family? Darn such good opportunities pass right before our eyes.

The Master Speaks:
I’m not sure what time is was but John Bedini came to the microphone and started to talk in his unstructured non-technical fireside type of delivery. The medium rumble of multiple conversations came to a sudden halt as the small informal groups quickly broke up and people recovered their chairs. A very noticeable silence descended upon the crowd. He wandered from subject to subject, from the past to the present and back to the past again. He emphasized his association to Tom Bearden, Peter Lindeman, His brother Gary, his wife, and many others whom I didn’t know. Apparently it was Tom Bearden’s 80th birthday and he was circulating a large card (about 20” x 16” folded) that he invited people to sign. The card didn’t get to our table till the next day. John reviewed his history and his personal journey in this field along with his connections to his associates. It was a profound discussion. Towards the end he talked about what he was going to reveal tomorrow. I would guess John talked at least an hour. It was about 5:30pm when he finished. That was the end of the formal daily agenda, but I would say at least 80% of the attendees stayed on till 7:00 when they had to boot everyone out and close the doors. So I loaded up my kit and prepared to leave.

Rising form the Ashes:
At my table there were two men from different cities in Australia. The older one was an HVAC technician. I could tell this trip was going to be a serious drain on their financial resources. But they were in definite earnest in exploring this new technology. The younger man (late 20’s) was really obsessed in getting his motor to work. Since I was local I asked if there was anything I could bring back tomorrow to help in his construction quest. Of course a soldering iron would be nice, but he also needed a pair of needle nose pliers and a second 9 volt battery. I happen to be well stocked with such things and upon arriving back at home I organized all the tools he needed plus a bunch of other components that he might need. Even a 10 turn 1 K potentiometer for the base resistor.

Spokane1

[Turion]

I too was at this conference. I too had problems with my motor, even though I had my volt meter, my soldering iron, and tons of other things with me. ( Boy Scout, don't you know, always prepared) Did not get my motor running, but I will. Am I disappointed? I would not have traded this experience for anything. Period. I learned three NEW things in my failed attempt to construct this motor that will serve me well for the rest of my life. Everything did NOT go perfect. But the people I met, the things that I learned will be invaluable as I continue on the free energy path.

In response to electricity, let me tell you this. I too, am a newbie to this with very little experience in electronics. But I listen. I work hard. I bust my butt to do what people who have gone before recommend. Have I seen an over unity device? You damn betcha! Can I build one right now based on what I know? Hide and watch.

I would suggest that if you want to see one for yourself, follow the forums on the Watson Machine for the next few months. I would also follow along on the Kromrey converter site if I were you. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. But you are going to have to read about those two devices and understand what is already out there. Nobody is going to be given step by step instructions, I don't think. I will be happy to share photos and information about what I have built, especially if I get them running and they work.

We were not spoon fed step by step detailed instructions on how to build ANY devices, but I believe we WERE given enough information, along with what has already been released, to build an over unity device.

The Kromrey John Bedini showed in the videos may NOT have been an over unity device AS SHOWN, but now we know what to look for and what has to be there to make it one. The Watson device in the free energy generation book may not have been an over unity device AS SHOWN, but we know what is needed to make it one.

I believe this to be true, and I have built BOTH of these devices. I will be making the changes that I need to make, and if mine works, I will be happy to share.

That is what this needs to be about, the sharing of what we DO know, not the whining about what we DON'T.

Matt Jones and I spent some time talking about the purpose of these forums, and that we need to put together a real think tank type situation and just flat get rid of the people who want to ***** and whine. I have been one of them from time to time when I get frustrated, but no more. This is too important to let a few people ruin it for the rest of us.

Bits, From the bottom of my heart I thank you, Peter, John and everyone else who was there and who did such an amazing job. I know I will be hanging on your every word from now on. John may be the MAN, but so are YOU as far as I am concerned, because you are HERE and sharing with us. Was the conference perfect? Nope! But you should see the first monopole I built from scratch. It is almost unrecognizable as a monopole. This conference was a first attempt, and I'm sure lots of lessons were learned.

The knowledge I gained, the friends I made, the contacts I have now, they were all worth every penny I spent on this conference. Every penny. Every one. All of them. If they had another one tomorrow , would I be there? Well, probably not tomorrow, but next month for sure!

And Matt, thanks for everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
Duncan, I'm glad you're not always around. I doubt if I could spend all night EVERY night talking about motors and circuits and possibilities for the future! But this was an experience I will NEVER forget. You people are awsome!

[blackchisel97]

Again Bits didn’t have a clue as to how the charger that he was controlling actually worked
Spokane1

This part I found hilarious. Especially, knowing this young gentleman.


V

[kippered]

Well I just got back from a very long drive, had no real intentions to put together the long post I had planned but most of what I have too offer has been mentioned by the inspirational posts before me!

I had a fantastic time and found it to be worth every penny since it gave me all the answers I was looking for , great personal connections AND I have a kit to play with and understand Bedini’s work better

Some things to touch on from my point of view:

Bedini System
- Great use as an online battery maintenance tool in addition to another power source input to the system
- Great for remote communities that are dependant on a battery system to provide power and cannot afford battery replacement
- At this point the Bedini system is best used as a research tool people such as Bit’s are taking it to the next level but the user has to fully understand the technology and how to apply it. There is no free ride here and it is going to take effort to understand and develop the idea further.
- Challenge in tuning individual machines makes most people give up... It requires allot of careful machine design and impedance matching. Basically you need to have a firm grasp and patience or you will likely have big trouble trying to get your machine to work
- Another challenge is that people such as myself do not have the room or desire to have a bank of batteries in their house. To bring this to a global scale a better use of the energy will need to be devised.

To my surprise many people were looking to just buy a 10 coiler and start generating free energy on a level to power their house! The technology is just not there yet but once people like yourself have built a basic Bedini EXACTLY as you are told and see the effects of Radiant energy and understand how and why it works then you move forward with a different idea on how to make it work. I am at step one and hope to begin observations this week.

Renaissance chargers
- There is enough info on them out there so nothing to add except that they seem to be a great product and I hope they can figure out Lithium so I can buy a rejuvenator for my 36V Lion BIONX bike system.
- If your passionate about saving batteries from going to the landfill, GET ONE

Jeane Manning
- A social change and vision is needed for our world to bring forth our technology. It was unfortunate that people could only think to plug their websites rather that enjoy a joint vision of a sustainable future.

Peter Lindemann
- Fantastic presentation about electric motor secrets pt2 and as an Industrial electrician I found the idea’s very workable from an experimental standpoint. I have some Idea’s I have to work out in other veins of interest but I look forward to having a crack at a lockridge style motor... First I need to watch the DVD and read the whole electric motor secrets thread which I am not sure when will happen! And thanks Peter for the though out answers to my questions.

I have tons more in my notes but I am going to prepare those to share with a community locally that I just connected with because of this event, and that alone was worth the journey!

The main thing I took away from the weekend was to get experimenting!!!! I put together my monopole tonight and plan to finish up the soldering tomorrow and start observing and then its going to be playing with my own idea’s that have formed out of discussions I had at the conference... I will be sure to start a thread with anything that I find has value to share

I would have liked to meet more people from the board here personally but I had to run each day to spend time with my wife who made the trip with me. Those who I did meet thanks for the discussion and @ all lets get these idea’s out there!!!!

[Turion]

Perhaps I misunderstood, but the device Bits showed us was a digital Tesla Switch, was it not??? Something that people have been trying for YEARS to create and Bits and his team were FINALLY able to do it, based on their work here on the energetic forum on the Tesla Switch thread which I have been following. If the guy who designed and built it doesn't understand it, I'm in a heap of trouble, but for some strange reason I kinda think that Bits might just possibly know know a little bit about how it works.

[electricity]

@Bits,

@Bits
Do you understand what it is that you are talking about?

You rant about Free Energy, yet elect to uphold the Lenz Flaw that governs induction of which is used to derive the equation of energy conservation?.

Lenz states that an induced current is always in such a direction as to oppose the motion or change causing it. To produce Free E is to overcome or make ineffective Lenz law, and what is a law that does not govern true? That we call Flaw.

Look, I wish not to argue with you, I am simply asking for proof of your claimed Free Energy. Provide a Real Working Free Energy devise that we can replicate. You guys have been telling the same tale since the 1980s, isn't it time we see REAL FREE ENERGY DEVICES in action?.

@ashtweth
Did I ever ask you of clarification of electrical?.
Do you even understand magnetism?. You are the only one bragging about Kits like Orbo. I do not buy, I MAKE. I bought a $100 kit from Bedini to see the PCB. That kit is way over priced, pardon me. I can source the parts from Taobao for $10, shipping included.

LOOK, we are tired of the same story. Peter has been telling about these fantastic devises for years, is there ONE actual replication?.

SIMPLE, provide replicable proof.

[Aaron]

Bedini Ferris Wheel!

On John's Ferris Wheel machine, I felt like soliciting 5 tickets for a
ride and was wondering when someone was going to deliver the chairs
Anyone that doesn't see a need for these kind of circuits should just
buy stock in their local electric company and make them happy.

I saw it run at John's shop with a 1 inch clearance from the ceiling and kind
of got the general concept of how it runs. At the show, as I was standing
next to him listening to his explanation to a bunch of people that unlike me,
they actually have a lot of ee training and can speak the language.

With the steel plates behind the coils and magnets to lock in or keep the
magnetic field compressed sort of, I think it is like a mechanical version of
the MEG... IF that is essentially what it is.

John called it the re-gauging motor. That term is used from what I can see
to describe the coils or magnets that get their field compressed then then
they spring back out.

But that seems to be the most popular use of the concept of re-gauging.
However, from what I read in my limited understanding of "quantum
electrodynamics" for example, anything that can at any point reestablish
a new potential difference is re-gauging. Therefore, the SG, a bouncing ball,
rotary attraction motors, etc... that are able to "reset" themselves and
establish a new potential difference to me is literally re-gauging literally.
There is work done and the system is able to
"compress" and "re-spring" itself back out and that can happen over and
over, usually with a bit of loss but not required to lose anything but usually
will from a practical standpoint.

In any case, if it is idling with virtually no current at a few rpm (12 foot
diameter and around 250 pounds rotor), how much would it normally take
to move 250 pounds in a circle with a conventional circuit? I don't know
the answer to that but I can guarantee it will take a good number of
amps times 36 volts.

And with the 250 pound wheel moving in one direction on a startup and
instantly jerking in the opposite direction, how much power does it take
to basically instantly stop a 250 pound wheel and then get it to move in
the opposite direction - again, basically after stopping on a dime.

Anyway, I'd like to do something like this but much smaller and with a
very good weighted flywheel - I don't think the diameter is necessary
at the moment until I think it through more, which might change my mind
or not.

I'm glad John said the Barium magnets aren't necessary and those were for
a certain experiment. And even more interesting that they have a memory
effect.

My wheels are definitely turning and I'm excited to see some replication
attempts based on the understanding of what was explained and witnessed.

[electricity]

Rising form the Ashes:
At my table there were two men from different cities in Australia. The older one was an HVAC technician. I could tell this trip was going to be a serious drain on their financial resources. But they were in definite earnest in exploring this new technology. The younger man (late 20’s) was really obsessed in getting his motor to work. Since I was local I asked if there was anything I could bring back tomorrow to help in his construction quest. Of course a soldering iron would be nice, but he also needed a pair of needle nose pliers and a second 9 volt battery. I happen to be well stocked with such things and upon arriving back at home I organized all the tools he needed plus a bunch of other components that he might need. Even a 10 turn 1 K potentiometer for the base resistor.

Spokane1

Please do continue, This we must READ.

Thank you very much for your Report.