Renaissance November Workshop Convention

[Matthew Jones]

CDA was Woodstock.

Man, I totally missed out on the Free Love.....

Matt

[DoubleD]

Man, I totally missed out on the Free Love.....

Matt

[Redisnoc]

Great to see everyone

First,
Glad I got to meet everyone-David Luke here/Redisnoc
Bits, thanks for your help, input and most especially your positive attitude and drive--your momentum helps a lot of people (me included)

For you Matt:

"Man, I totally missed out on the Free Love.....

Matt"
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~~You did~~, and that is a shame, because it will never be again--date stamping myself--Missed Woodstock, but, but got to Atlanta Pop Festival I and more....

Jeff, Josh, Eric, Matt, Dave, Luther, Chuck, The Wonderful guy with the pretty 14 year old daughter that had abilities like a 35 year old man of working knowledge (that I never heard his/her name), Vizzy, and all the names I cannot remember--it was great to be around folks that had intent and ability.

Thanks for all your help, support and energy.
Rick and John did a job didn't they.
Dave

[kippered]

My monopole is now running also

now just to tweek it for performance...

[Peter Lindemann]

More Secrets Revealed.....

My monopole is now running also

now just to tweek it for performance...

Kippered,

Great to hear you have your motor kit running. The system is designed to run from a small 12 volt, 7 amp-hour battery, charge a capacitor and dump that into a different 12 volt, 7 amp-hour battery. Meanwhile, when it gets up to speed, a whole string of LEDs light up from the extra generator coil that is putting out about 24 volts. When you have the whole thing working, I'll tell you how to modify it so it will run itself, light the LEDs and charge the back battery faster than the front one goes down.

Peter

[Mark]

Kippered,

Great to hear you have your motor kit running. The system is designed to run from a small 12 volt, 7 amp-hour battery, charge a capacitor and dump that into a different 12 volt, 7 amp-hour battery. Meanwhile, when it gets up to speed, a whole string of LEDs light up from the extra generator coil that is putting out about 24 volts. When you have the whole thing working, I'll tell you how to modify it so it will run itself, light the LEDs and charge the back battery faster than the front one goes down.

Peter

Peter some of us have had this 3 pole kit running for months now. Please give us the details on how to make a self runner. Was never told this kit was designed for a 7 amp-hour battery. Does anyone have any idea what an average motorcycle battery amp hour rating is?

Thanks, Mark

[redrichie]

can existing non-kit monopoles be reconfigured to do this as well? Will this info be released to the rest of us or is it exclusive to conf attendees
?

[kippered]

Kippered,

Great to hear you have your motor kit running. The system is designed to run from a small 12 volt, 7 amp-hour battery, charge a capacitor and dump that into a different 12 volt, 7 amp-hour battery. Meanwhile, when it gets up to speed, a whole string of LEDs light up from the extra generator coil that is putting out about 24 volts. When you have the whole thing working, I'll tell you how to modify it so it will run itself, light the LEDs and charge the back battery faster than the front one goes down.

Peter

Would love to hear the details! I have a bit of work before I get it sorted out with the 12V batt's. Currently all I have is 2 6V 12AH batteries that I could hook up in series (saved from 2 old exit signs) but am lacking the 2 batteries to dump into.

I currently have it running off my old 9.6V makita cordelss drill battery charging directly to a similar battery (no cap dump) basically like Turion, used the standard SSG drawing and just added 2 more.

I am hoping to re-energize these batteries as they havent held a proper charge for years and was the main reason for upgrading to a better drill.

Also I guess it is important to note the kit is really only a monopole trigger since the one trigger coil operates the 3 drive coils unlike the classic monopole bike wheel setup.

Exciting because I will be assisting at a NEMCA event with a review of the conference and we wanted to make sure at least one kit was working properly

[nvisser]

CDA was Woodstock.

Bedini is Hendrix.

The conditions at Woodstock were crappy. CDA wasn't perfect, too. And, both promoters lost money.

Yet, we, the audience, were in the presence of brilliance. A confluence of genius the likes of which might never happen again.

Did you attend Woodstock, or, see the movie? Did you expect Hendrix to teach you how to play elementary guitar after he stepped down from the stage?

Hendrix showed us what was possible. He stretched our expectations for what was possible with that medium.

Bedini pulled out all of the stops and showed us what was possible in his medium. Bedini sculpts magnetic fields.

I think that the most significant idea that Bedini gave us was his sketch of the magnetic fields.

I *think* that he is telling us that he is not thinking about electronic circuits. I *think* that he is telling us that he sees the magnetic fields first, then arranges the electronics to achieve said fields.

Pault
I like your *thinking*

About a self runner. I think that bedini/cole bipolar circuit that triggers with a read switch could work.There they use the trigger coil as gen coil and feed the power back to battery during off time. Much like the watson machine. Then we could use the smallest rechargeable battery to get test results sooner. We don't need to pop back once a revolution but could wait till the capacitor reach 31V and pop it back much like John Bedini does on his ferris wheel, using a 32v zener and maybe a solid state relay or two transistors or scr.I am not to sure if this back popping method is the best when using the same battery.
I only arrived home today and pack my kit out an hour ago. I think I will try this circuit on it.
I would like to thank John Bedini and his team for what they brought to the table.
Also I need to thank Mathew, Bits and Dave for helping me out after my credit cards, money and drivers license got stolen at Seattle airport. Without you guys I would have been lost!!
I think we have to go sit down and re think the way we were experimenting and start all over doing it the "Non Linear" way. I am not to sure how we will do that but I am sure we will get there.
Example of non linearity was. The Watson machine having 8 coils and only seven magnets. (I wrongly thought it was to reduce cogging or drag)
And the second example was the 2 steel plates bent at different angles on the sides of the big coil like magnetic shields or something.
Oh and also the smaller neo magnet mounted scew on the inside of the huge ferrite magnets!

[SeaMonkey]

First,
Glad I got to meet everyone-David Luke here/Redisnoc
...
Dave

Consider-Redisnoc

Emoclew-Welcome

[Peter Lindemann]

Two ways to do it

Hi Everybody,

OK, here's the deal (or at least one set of possibilities). The idea is this. Once you have the basic system recycling the electricity from the front batteries to the back batteries while running the motor, any mechanical energy produced is the major portion of the "free energy" created by the machine. The extra generator coil can then "convert" this free mechanical energy back into "new" electricity, or electricity that was not in the system before.

The way the system is wired is to take 100% of this "new" electricity and use it to light some LEDs. The voltage of that system is about twice the voltage of the batteries, or about 24 volts. So, if you light only about 12 volts worth of LEDs instead of the full amount, you now have about 12 volts worth of output to play with. This can be applied to either the input battery to offset the battery drain at the front, or added to the capacitor and dumped to the battery in the back along with the rest of the recovered energy from the coils.

Either way will give you the bias you need to run the system, light some LEDs and charge the back battery faster than the front runs down.

Have fun!!!

Peter

[Turion]

Peter, the posted wiring diagram from Rick does not include the top coil in the schematic. Are you saying to use the trigger coil to fire it just like the other coils and run it to a capacitor, or use a separate circuit with just this coil and maybe a reed switch to trigger it? Or just as a generator coil with no electronics at all. Mine is running and all tuned up, and I am one happy camper right now. I am going to visit my son, the electrical engineer, this weekend, and taking my motor with me as well as a build of Matt's simple motor. I can't wait. I have several 7 amp hour batteries, so I can configure it however I need to.

[Peter Lindemann]

Top Coil

Peter, the posted wiring diagram from Rick does not include the top coil in the schematic. Are you saying to use the trigger coil to fire it just like the other coils and run it to a capacitor, or use a separate circuit with just this coil and maybe a reed switch to trigger it? Mine is running and all tuned up, and I am one happy camper right now. I am going to visit my son, the electrical engineer, this weekend, and taking my motor with me as well as a build of Matt's simple motor. I can't wait. I have several 7 amp hour batteries, so I can configure it however I need to.

Turion,

The top coil is NOT part of the motor circuit. It is NOT triggered or fed any power from the front battery. It is just a generator coil that produces pulses of electricity when the magnets on the rotor move passed.

Peter

[Turion]

That's what I figured. Just wanted to be sure. Thanks.

[Ecoman11]

Peter, the posted wiring diagram from Rick does not include the top coil in the schematic. Are you saying to use the trigger coil to fire it just like the other coils and run it to a capacitor, or use a separate circuit with just this coil and maybe a reed switch to trigger it? Or just as a generator coil with no electronics at all. Mine is running and all tuned up, and I am one happy camper right now. I am going to visit my son, the electrical engineer, this weekend, and taking my motor with me as well as a build of Matt's simple motor. I can't wait. I have several 7 amp hour batteries, so I can configure it however I need to.

If there is enough voltage across that generator coil you can easily convert it to a vibreedo coil which I've posted here. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...eedo-coil.html

It would be interesting to see the results if anyone is willing to try.

Ecoman