Renaissance November Workshop Convention

[John_K]

I took some time to post a review of the 2010 r-charge conference in Coeur'dAline here.

Enjoy and please comment here or there as you can.

Sandy

Hi Sandy,

Thanks for posting your review. I did not attend but wish I had.

A couple of commemts:
1. Renaissance did not make a profit on this at all. Rick claims he lost $50k
2. Why didn't you you take the time to assemble the kit you bought at the Sand Point conference? I think you would have got more out of the conference if you had a basic understanding of radiant energy.
3. John's surprise monopole is not just "another monopole motor". It is a modern version of the Watson machine - self-runner that also charges batteries.
4. The conference was limited to 500 people, not 250.
5. Bit's name is Jeff. He posts here a lot.
6. The conference schedule was published online at Renaissance Charge November 2010 Alternative Energy Conference and also had a link on the Truth In Heart CREDIT CARD ORDERING CENTER website.
7. "I hope that someone besides John will someday be able to consistently reproduce his works and pass on the ideas to others in less cryptic forms. I hope he gets someone who can teach and write to work for him and make these mysteries available to all in a comprehensive, cohesive and understandable and unambiguous form. Of course this technology is new and raw and one should not expect too much this early in its development."

This is what we should all be working on. We should not have to wait for "someone else" to do it.
8. I've known Rick for a number of years. I know that he works probably harder than anyone else interested in this technology. He takes a lot of pride in his work and does not like to disappoint people so he does a lot of the work himself. I think he deserves to be congratulated for putting on what he did in the amount of time he had. Putting on an event like this is a massive task to undertake, let alone pull it off without a hitch.
9. "Perhaps I will find time to write up a step-by-step guide to building the 3 pole monopole motor kit and give it to them so all of us can get it built easily."
Great idea! I'm sure people would appreciate that.

I'm a little disappointed about some of the reviews I have read so far. I'm particulalrly disappointed that some people expected everything to go smoothly and to be waited on hand and foot. Did any of the participants offer to help out Rick and his team when they were struggling?

For example, someone could have helped out with registration and forming 2 queues like Sandy suggested, rather than waiting in line for so long. Perhaps someone could have offered to go out and buy 20 soldering irons to get the kits going. Just suggestions.

Sometimes people need to just pitch in and help, which can make a huge difference.


John K.

[ashtweth]

Ask the hospitality industry (where i grew up around) whats involved in coordinating 300+ people Not a walk in the park

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Battery Swapper

Follks there was such such great interest with the Battery Swapper at the show that Rick decided to manufacture it as a product. Here is the web site to where you can place your order for this. (the picture is the prototype). We are trying to get an early count so that we can order the supplies. Please visit this web site if you are interested,

Truth In Heart CREDIT CARD ORDERING CENTER

Thanks.

Jeff

[uusedman]

After completing the conference, I would definitely do it again. My thoughts are as follows:

John Bedini is awesome!
John is like a Suduko Puzzle! You must always criss cross his words to find the VALUE. Seldomly, he gives you direct clues. His knowledge base is enormous, almost on all fields of FE ("I asked him about alot of stuff"). I tried to get information from him prior to his presentation, he politely reply "Tomorrow". Surely, "tomorrow" came and I asked away with all sorts of questions. John's presentation must be decoded because it seemed only a couple ppl in the hall understood him like he wanted. I only noticed Peter Lindemann shaking his head in agreement. Yes, John did mention essential know how of the FE devices! At first I thought John was passing out free candy because every time you locate John, there is a bunch people around him Peace and health to you John.


Peter Lindemann is also awesome.
I tired him down with my questions on the Rotary Attraction setup, which I am backup building. As soon as I turned around, Peter was ran away from us ! He was polite to answer all questions with great detail. All of his answers were insightful, helpful, and technical. His humbles is truly remarkable. Peace and health to you Peter.

Aaron was also awesome. I wished he gave a presentation on some of the principals he knows. We talked a few times and every time he was positive. Next time I want to bother him more with questions. Peace and health to you Aaron.

Everyone at the conference had the same energy and vibration. For the first time, we called the outside world weird and not them calling us weird. It was a pleasure sharing ideas with others and getting insight of other ideas.

I hope on the next presentation that it is longer and more detailed presentation or detailed working prototypes are shown.



UusedMan "Abe" Miami, FL

[everyidea]

Follks there was such such great interest with the Battery Swapper at the show that Rick decided to manufacture it as a product.

@Bits, can you give us a run down of what this device can/will do, mainly for the people who where not at the show? The website link does not list its functions. It might drive some more sales to it.

Do I need a ten coiler to run it? Can it run on its own with just four batteries? How does using a load on the batteries work with it?

Thanks,

rw

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

@Bits, can you give us a run down of what this device can/will do, mainly for the people who where not at the show? The website link does not list its functions. It might drive some more sales to it.

Do I need a ten coiler to run it? Can it run on its own with just four batteries? How does using a load with it work?

Thanks,

rw

While I demonstrated it on the 10 coiler at the show, this swapper can be used on almost any application. For example, I have a 48 volt Solar Panel that feeds the charging input of this device and the swapper maintains each battery while service my Grid Tie inverter.

The Battery Swapper and Charger is a compact, but very complex device to move batteries in and out of a load environment for the purpose of charging each battery individually. With its LCD read out , terminal monitoring, logging capabilities and complex programming, this device can be used as a “Auto” or “Manual” Charger by selecting functionality presented on the LCD or Terminal display. Each section presented in this manual will explain the operational features of this device.

The Components:

1. Housing
2. LCD
3. Reset Switch
4. Select Switch
5. Enter Switch
6. Auto / Manual Switch
7. Charging LED
8. Individual Battery LED’s
9. Terminal / Programming Input
10. Output Amp Meter

Connecting the Device: (See the load connection configurations at the end of this section).

1.Connect the Battery Cables to the Battery’s. *****CAUTION***** OBSERVE THE CORRECT POLAIRITY WHEN PLACING THE CABLES ON THE BATTERY’S.
2.Connect the AC Power Cable to the wall outlet.

Making a Selection:

When the Battery Cables have been placed Correctly on the battery and the AC wall adapter is plugged in, the LCD Panel will display “Select Auto or Manual Charge ” and “Press Enter”. At this point, using the “Auto / Manual” Charge switch” (6), place the switch in the desired mode, “Auto” or “Manual” then press the “Enter Switch” (5) to initiate the beginning of the mode selected.

The Auto Charge Mode:

With this mode selected, the device will initially test each battery to determine which battery has the least voltage. The battery with the lowest voltage in selected and placed onto the “charge rail”. The device then reads the voltage and displays that value on the LCD. After the device engages the charge relay it begins the charge cycle. The Battery’s voltage is consistently monitored at 15 sec. intervals. At the end of each charge cycle, the battery is allowed to “Rest”. At the end of the “Rest” period, the battery’s voltage is sampled. The complex programming of the device, determines if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is fully charged, the battery is placed back onto the load rail and the automatic selection of the next lowest battery is repeated. If the battery is still not fully charged, the charging cycle is repeated. This operation is continuous. If it is desired to terminate the Auto Charging process, pushing the RESET button (3) will terminate the process and return the device to the “Select Auto or Manual Charge ” and “Press Enter” screen.


The Manual Charge Mode:

If the “Auto / Manual Charge Switch” is place into the “Manual” position and the “Enter Switch” is pressed, the LCD will display “Batt 1” and by pressing and holding “Enter”, “Batt 1” charging would be started. Just as in the Auto Charge routine, the device engages the charge relay which begins the charge cycle. The Battery’s voltage is consistently monitored at 15 sec. intervals. At then end of each charge cycle, the battery is allowed to “Rest”. At the end of the “Rest” period, the battery’s voltage is sampled and the complex programming of the device, determines if the battery is fully charged. If the battery is fully charged, the battery is placed back onto the load rail. The program is then returned to the “Select Auto / Manual Charge” display. Should it be desired to select a different Battery, ensure the “Auto / Manual” Charge switch” (6) is in the “Manual” position, then press and hold the “Select Switch” without pressing the Enter Switch to scroll through the 4 different Battery Selection Options. “Batt 1”, “Batt 2”, “Batt 3”, and “Batt 4”. Continuing to press the “Selection Switch” at “Batt 4” will return to “Batt 1”. Once the appropriate Battery is selected for charging, pressing and holding the “Enter Switch” will begin the charging process as described earlier in the section.

Resetting the Battery Swapper:

At any time, the device can be reset using the “Reset Switch” (3). The device will cycle to the beginning of the program and prompt for “Auto” or “Manual” charging.


RS232 Mode:

Connecting a Serial Cable to the DB9 connector, and with a PC / Laptop running HyperTerminal, the information being displayed on the LCD can also be displayed to the terminal screen. Configure Hyper terminal for 9600, 8, N, 1 and make a connection. Start the MachineOfTime1 Battery Swapper as described earlier in this manual and observe the Terminal screen. Hyper terminal also has a logging feature that can be used to store information during the “Auto” or “Manual” charging process.

Thanks

Jeff

[Bhargav]

battery bank size and voltage

Hey Bits,
What is the battery bank size and voltage the battery swapper can handle . i have a 1.5 kw solar panel wired to give 48v . I have 30 batteries 12v 225ah . What is the max amps that the tesla switch be adjusted to output ?

Does the tesla switch output a hot charge or a cold charge ?

I know you dont like putting numbers on the products for a good reason , but iam trying to size the product requirement !!!

PS: Iam already posting the window motor progress on the bedini-cole bipoar switch : How to drastically reduce your input . Will put a link here soon. Please do look over the tuning questions i put in earlier when you have time .


Thanks,
Bhargav

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hey Bits,
What is the battery bank size and voltage the battery swapper can handle .Thanks,
Bhargav

The one I showed was a 10 amp version, but I have tested up to 30 amp so far. Rick and I are putting the specs together for a 20 - 30 amp "Load Switching model". I say "Load Switching" because the swapper switches the batts in and out of the load without interuptions. The charging then occurs to the selected 12V battery.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

[Turion]

Bits.
I'm off the grid with a 12 volt system. Will the battery swapper run on 12 volts, or will I need to run it off an inverter.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Bits.
I'm off the grid with a 12 volt system. Will the battery swapper run on 12 volts, or will I need to run it off an inverter.

12 and 24 volts.

[Turion]

By the way, I was one of those who didn't get my motor running at the conference. I had my own soldering iron, my own volt meter, and my own oscilloscope back in the motel room, which I used when I got back there. What I discovered was that with the stuff provided in my kit, I could not get enough voltage to trigger the transistor. Only got .4 volts and needed .7 When I hooked it up with no resistor, it ran, but as soon as it took off, it burned out the transistor. If I had hooked up one of the three resistors provided to all three coils at the same time, it might have have worked. Once I got home where I have access to all my crap, including a schematic, it took about 10 minutes to wire it up and get it working. Still haven't wired in all the coils. But for those of you who say it CAN'T be done. If you quit trying, you are absolutely right!

YouTube - 11Turion's Channel

[Tucker]

Tucker

12 and 24 volts.

Bits
I have 2000 watts of panel with 3 banks of 48 volt batteries can you make the battery switcher work with this system?

Turion
Set my kit together today runs and charges great, using one 12 volt 7ah on front and 5 12 7ah charging, after 4 hrs front went form 12.8 to 12.5 and charging when from 12.7 to 13.3. The little wheat grain bulb has a light glow to it will it is running.

Tucker

[kippered]

By the way, I was one of those who didn't get my motor running at the conference. I had my own soldering iron, my own volt meter, and my own oscilloscope back in the motel room, which I used when I got back there. What I discovered was that with the stuff provided in my kit, I could not get enough voltage to trigger the transistor. Only got .4 volts and needed .7 When I hooked it up with no resistor, it ran, but as soon as it took off, it burned out the transistor. If I had hooked up one of the three resistors provided to all three coils at the same time, it might have have worked. Once I got home where I have access to all my crap, including a schematic, it took about 10 minutes to wire it up and get it working. Still haven't wired in all the coils. But for those of you who say it CAN'T be done. If you quit trying, you are absolutely right!

YouTube - 11Turion's Channel

Well Done Turion. I also used the SSG basic schematic which has provided a good learning opportunity. I am having the same problem with the transistors. In Fact I cannot seem to get the 0.7 volts even with the trigger coil hooked up directly to my meter. Guess I need to set up my scope to find out for sure

I will try putting a low resistance pot in place of the fixed 220Ohm once i get it sorted

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Bits
I have 2000 watts of panel with 3 banks of 48 volt batteries can you make the battery switcher work with this system?

Tucker

I will take a look and see if I can devise a scheme for this type of setup. Thanks for the input.

[pault]

CDA = Woodstock

I took some time to post a review of the 2010 r-charge conference in Coeur'dAline here.

Enjoy and please comment here or there as you can.

Sandy

CDA was Woodstock.

Bedini is Hendrix.

The conditions at Woodstock were crappy. CDA wasn't perfect, too. And, both promoters lost money.

Yet, we, the audience, were in the presence of brilliance. A confluence of genius the likes of which might never happen again.

Did you attend Woodstock, or, see the movie? Did you expect Hendrix to teach you how to play elementary guitar after he stepped down from the stage?

Hendrix showed us what was possible. He stretched our expectations for what was possible with that medium.

Bedini pulled out all of the stops and showed us what was possible in his medium. Bedini sculpts magnetic fields.

I think that the most significant idea that Bedini gave us was his sketch of the magnetic fields.

I *think* that he is telling us that he is not thinking about electronic circuits. I *think* that he is telling us that he sees the magnetic fields first, then arranges the electronics to achieve said fields.