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  • Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
    Dave,
    It was not only explained to you the number of turns was written on the coil and the impedance too.
    I also said to everybody if you can not make the circuits I would supply them if the response was good. The two machines were tuned different because of the build, the difference between the two machines. I have never seen any of your builds. Do you plan on building something or is john just spinning his wheels here?.

    I think it was understood how I run my lectures I do not leave anything out. You were also allowed to view the machine running take still pictures and ask any questions.

    The only answer I received about the free part of the energy came from Peter L after waiting 45 seconds for the group to answer. Everybody was told where it was and how you get it along with the recovery process. You were also shown how to make a semiconductor battery and a oscillator to use as power or recovery to charge batteries, that was free for the taking, Chuck H, was also running a 30 pound window motor off those cells. To bad that nobody reported what was explained to them, but it was more technical the you have reported early on. and yes it also covered sales, it's the only way I know how to eat.
    John B
    My apologies John,

    I am not trying to make anybody upset. Just a misunderstanding. The reason I said it was only a little technical is because I like mathematical representation. I know that a lot of people can't cope with math so your approach is understandable.

    Thanks,

    Dave

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    • Bedini GT3

      Dave,
      I understand what you have said . But one must understand that I have tried that approach before. When I brought the easel in. in the morning I gave a little lecture where the energy was coming from and I did start to get into the math in differentials and the equation I used to come to the conclusion in my thinking. People get lost when it comes to the quantum end of what the coil really is so I must try to keep this very simple. I try to keep it on a level that everybody can understand so I give the circuit with the values. Most people fall off to never never land when you start talking advanced math in vectors. But I did find one engineer that did know what was taking place, he did come to my shop and we did talk about energy, he said he was grateful that I kept it very simple as it is debatable with different physics people. So nothing taken at heart here, glad you could attend.
      John B
      John Bedini
      www.johnbedini.net

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      • Bedini GT3

        Dave,
        Almost forgot to say that the energy is taken between the differential points as the battery is it's own di-pole, this is why I called everybody up to the front of the class to feel the coils, I know that you can figure this out. In just simple terms of the difference between heat and cold. Just simple tuning to get the heat out of the machine, I like the cold end of switching, more energy.
        John B
        John Bedini
        www.johnbedini.net

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        • Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
          Dave,
          Almost forgot to say that the energy is taken between the differential points as the battery is it's own di-pole, this is why I called everybody up to the front of the class to feel the coils, I know that you can figure this out. In just simple terms of the difference between heat and cold. Just simple tuning to get the heat out of the machine, I like the cold end of switching, more energy.
          John B
          John,

          Towards the end of the conference, I thought I was starting to see things a little more like you do. Confusion was being cleared up. Then I asked Peter L some questions and a whole other world of confusion set in. I felt like I was back where I started.

          Thanks for getting me on the right track with the impedances of those coils. I had always been curious of the negative energy cooling effect and needed to feel it for myself. I see the significance of what you presented (I don't know why I didn't realize that those strands on the big coil were in parallel ).

          These past few posts have really cleared up the confusion. I'll be turning on my ferris wheel replication tomorrow for some battery conditioning/circuit tuning.

          Thank you again for everything,

          Dave

          P.S. How much of an extra load does the tuning coil cause?

          If it does cause an extra load, is it just completely negated by the return of negative energy to the batteries?

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          • Bedini GT3

            Originally posted by Web000x View Post
            John,

            Towards the end of the conference, I thought I was starting to see things a little more like you do. Confusion was being cleared up. Then I asked Peter L some questions and a whole other world of confusion set in. I felt like I was back where I started.

            Thanks for getting me on the right track with the impedances of those coils. I had always been curious of the negative energy cooling effect and needed to feel it for myself. I see the significance of what you presented (I don't know why I didn't realize that those strands on the big coil were in parallel ).

            These past few posts have really cleared up the confusion. I'll be turning on my ferris wheel replication tomorrow for some battery conditioning/circuit tuning.

            Thank you again for everything,

            Dave

            P.S. How much of an extra load does the tuning coil cause?

            If it does cause an extra load, is it just completely negated by the return of negative energy to the batteries?
            Dave,

            John B told me on the way home that it works just like Tesla said it does. To get the power out you have to go very low on the impedance and high on the inductance. All of the energy used is returned to the system.

            The Bedini/Cole circuit (which was not potted and anyone could take pictures of) gets the power to the capacitor in big pulses. Then the comparator circuit (which was also viewable) smacks the charge battery with a 30A or more pulse. John and Eric measured them, although Eric later on told me that the cap dumps were much higher than 30A.

            Eric and I ran his machine in Rick's shop after the conference. First we ran it without the tuning coil. The pulse rate from the cap dump was I would estimate 5 pulses per second. Then we hooked up the tuning coil. The pulse rate increased to an estimated 8 pulses per second AND the wheel sped up. We put a laser tach on the wheel to prove it.

            But here's what most people are missing, which Peter L nailed during John B's lecture. The wheel it was turning weighed at least 40 pounds, it took both Eric and I to lift it out when Eric disassembled it so he could fit it in his car. It also had A LOT of torque, I could not slow it down when I grabbed the shaft in my hand.

            So you could pump water or run a generator off that shaft all day long and then just swap the batteries around when the primary battery runs down. There is your free energy right there.


            John K.
            http://teslagenx.com

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            • Bedini GT3

              Dave,
              When the tuning is right the load is not important, you will notice this. the machine will speed up as if the load was not in the system. John K did see the same thing. at that point you better have a good switch on the capacitor side to dump the pulses. If Peter confused you then you need to explain why now so we can clear this up. Always go to the man that presented the machine as not everybody views it the same way. Very important to do the experiment for yourself. I'm the one that built it Peter did not.
              John B
              John Bedini
              www.johnbedini.net

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              • Bedini GT3

                The most important thing here is the two units I did show in the boxes. The Cole switch and the opto controlled comparator switching circuit. This controller is my intellectual property developed by Ron Cole and myself If your using the switches that were posted on the internet its not the same thing as you could not see under the circuit board, so I'm saying this up front. Most people can not make this unit.This is a much different type of comparator circuit as it must do three different things at one time as was shown by me when the wheel was slowed down. if you attended the conference then you saw the scope as you passed by in front of the machine.

                I might point out that this conference will never take place again at that hotel. Next time we will only allow 150 people to attend the 2 day event. One day of talking from the speakers and one day of hands on.

                Back to the circuits,
                The circuits have a Patent Pending on them so Energenx owns them, The first to issue of these two is the Solar Oscillator patent. The control circuits have a block on them right now because they do what they do, They always use the National Security thing, this is not the first time this has happened as the Solar Patent took almost 5 years to issue and it used that comparator switching circuit in it.

                The words in the Solar patent said "Charged in the moonlight", they did not like that. The other thing is they could do things here people would not like. 24 power people were in attendance and they did not like what they saw as the hotel invited them, not me, I was told later.
                Hope I have answered some of the questions people were wondering.
                John B
                John Bedini
                www.johnbedini.net

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                • John , I'm sure we live in perilous times. Turmoil is all around us
                  Hyperinflation is here and there will be food on the shelves few will be
                  able to afford. You are helping every way you can. Having built almost
                  many versions of ssg's, Both variations of WM's and culminating
                  With my build of the "simplicity"...(sophisticated elegance ).
                  I have seen patterns and effects beyond the math.
                  I had questions I wanted to ask and I am sure I just came across
                  As another blubbering fan, but I wanted to learn. So as usual
                  I couldn't express myself very well.
                  I am asking about or trying to ask about the interferometry and
                  How it might relate to Bearden's description of the tesla dome.
                  Those of us who have built these machines have noticed certain effects
                  in common that we would like to know more about if appropriate.

                  Thank you
                  Les

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                  • Bedini GT3

                    Les K,
                    I'm going to answer this, but I must finish some things.
                    John B
                    John Bedini
                    www.johnbedini.net

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                    • Bedini GT3

                      Les K,
                      Yes the technology is far in advance of what taught in common science or EE class, and the masses must be kept real dumb when it comes to hidden science that only the elite of the world know.

                      The machine is basic interferometer and can run in that mode if one understands it. You are correct in what you and others have seen, hidden to most because they think it is a simple machine, but the coils do much more then they think is possible. This machine can cause spatial vector alignment or disrupt the vector to change space time.

                      An example of that is the big wheel running at idle speed at around 8 Hz at the last conference watching the screens as the spectrum of colors top down, some here will remember that. The next thing that can be done is producing ground waves to grow things, also we have found healing effects. But I do know what your getting at here and I fell I have said enough at this time.
                      John B
                      John Bedini
                      www.johnbedini.net

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                      • Bedini GT3

                        John B,

                        Thanks again for an amazing conference!

                        I'm sure most of us are spending all of our time since the conference ended, studying our notes and photos trying to piece together the circuitry that you were most gracious to share with us! I know your not going to post any schematics, but would you entertain the idea of grading our work? Just a thought...


                        Thanks, Brent

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                        • Bedini GT3

                          Brent,
                          I did say I would build the modules I showed and the response was good on the list, I can not say the price for them yet. But I'm sitting doing a cost analyses at this moment. I will say this, that just one of the circuits can do many things with capacitor dis-charge and that it will out charge any solar charger anybody has, it can also be used as a motor control capacitor discharge free from the power supply and you can operate at any speed. In Fact it will run the Lockridge device as they are all trying to do on that thread. This device took me some time to make because it must be done in Analog and can't be done in digital with out break down. Since it is a discreet device it can be changed at any time for any application. The list at the show had about 88 people on it so if the pricing works out right I will make the circuits running on the GT3 machine for sale.
                          John B
                          John Bedini
                          www.johnbedini.net

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                          • Thanks John,
                            My garden is doing unusually well by the way, my chickens came
                            out of molt after only one week tons of eggs and everyone says they
                            have never seen such beautiful feathers.

                            I put my name down for the circuit as well, but I will get as many as I can.
                            I don't think people really understand the value of the circuit.
                            Once you progress from monopole_3 the next step should be to
                            Get your ssg to charge 4 batts with one.
                            That should be done in earnest. And then the one wire change makes
                            perfect sense. and when that clicks and it is understood the next step
                            you have taught us is about the WM
                            The WM as it is has no lenz law... But our job as you have taught is to
                            be able to move lenz law in and out of the system as needed.
                            Now you have given us the key to that....
                            But I would never have gotten the understanding I have without building
                            The 3GT.
                            So if we actually understand then we know the value of that circuit.

                            Forget gold coins stock up on those circuits......

                            Les

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                            • 3gt

                              It was a pleasure seeing the Wheels run, Both your's John and eric's. I enjoyed your lecture (thanks John k for letting me have your seat up front ) I know more now than ever.

                              I agree with Les, charge 4 with one, then you can use the bedini cole and comparator circuit as an advanced unit.

                              I showed some freinds the voltage readings from the 30 coil runs we did, they could not believe it. 1 volt down on the primary, 3 volts up on the charge bank!

                              Tom C
                              http://www.teslagenx.com

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                              • Originally posted by BrentA929 View Post
                                John B,

                                Thanks again for an amazing conference!

                                I'm sure most of us are spending all of our time since the conference ended, studying our notes and photos trying to piece together the circuitry that you were most gracious to share with us! I know your not going to post any schematics, but would you entertain the idea of grading our work? Just a thought...


                                Thanks, Brent
                                Hi Brent,
                                I was thinking about that circuit as well, actually been wondering
                                since I got my machine running I knew I was stuck till I got that
                                part figured out. But I also knew that would only be a lucky shot.
                                So I have been waiting for this conference. Now I realize it is far
                                more complex than I would have thought. Peters explanation filled
                                the bill. The node or spike that says the battery is done is very important.
                                A comparator circuit could catch that falling edge in comparison the
                                steady charge rate. But that is dc. With a cap pulser you have falling edges
                                all the time. When that occured to me I realized it would take years and years
                                of testing to figure out because you would have to watch hundreds of charging
                                cycles on many batteries to start to see the patterns.
                                Charging in the moonlight..... Who would have guessed such a thing would hold us back.... I know John and you are right! it's only our own minds holding us back. But this is a tough nut....

                                Les

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