Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Machine

Redrichie,
I know that, that is not what concerns me here. The PHI current is the last thing I'm looking for right at the moment. As I can gather that from the coils. The question is. What does the machine look like . I have somebody that lives very close to the coral castle. He says that more then a pipe is in the ground, but I'm not looking for antigravity here. ED had pipes everywhere for his experiments. The works of this machine have been discovered many times and many different geometries. I do know what the machine should look like and what it could do it could be used for two different functions/ or combined functions. he left two different things and the group just needs to put it together it should be what their after.
John B

[redrichie]

A galaxy, earth/ moon, atom

[Rl2003]

Wow, I have to go out for a couple days and a avalanche of Great posts come in.
Jetijs beautiful work. That took some time and I hope you learn from what you have if front of you. I remember seeing some coils on the wall, in the pictures of Ed's room. Did not see if there was any thing special about them although. I don't think they where Christmas decorations!!
Also there looks like there was something in the center around the handle missing, there are five or six slots and the don't seem to be there by accident.
I think the locking part was put there to keep people from turning it.
I was only about 7 or 8 the first time I was there and their where not any rails to keep you away then. I didn't know what I looking at either.
But it just so happens I am only an hour and half from there now. I may have to take a extra day to see things first hand again. I'll see if it's open.
There is also a lot of minerals in coral rock that may have added to the lifting that Ed was doing. Just a side note.
As far as the triangle in John's answer, I keep thinking about the Magnets, Coils and the batteries .. the energy is mutiplied in these after it is started??
Are not these somewhat the same? Just a thought but three different forms of storing and using...energy?
I am like a caged Lion waiting to get back to my shop to finish this.
Mark P.

[cody]

I know that, that is not what concerns me here. The PHI current is the last thing I'm looking for right at the moment. As I can gather that from the coils. The question is. What does the machine look like . I have somebody that lives very close to the coral castle. He says that more then a pipe is in the ground, but I'm not looking for antigravity here. ED had pipes everywhere for his experiments. The works of this machine have been discovered many times and many different geometries. I do know what the machine should look like and what it could do it could be used for two different functions/ or combined functions. he left two different things and the group just needs to put it together it should be what their after.
John B

If Eds "flywheel" were to be a motor or generator it would need a coil. Perhaps thats where the PMH comes in. It would achieve a similiar result to what you are doing by extending your cores at the bottom, accept eds machine used alternating poles and yours is a monopole. So maybe the machine would look like this.

[carmine]

What does the machine look like

The question is. What does the machine look like

... A gear ?

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Machine

Redrichie,

Ok just what is it that concerns you here about these symbols and numbers?
JB

at the entrance to coral castle the star of david. ADM.10 cents drop below. Not cents PHI!!! the golden ratio. John you say Delta PHI. Phi is also the number 21. where do we see this at the castle? on the door with a 16 point sun in the center, and at the bottom right the earth written and 21 over the top.
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[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Motor

Cody,
Yes Yes.
You Win
Now let's make it run as a motor how many switching pole would you need assuming that you only had 12 super pole magnets?.
You do not half to answer all at once, where would the recharge come from and what would the fields look like, and assuming that you did not have any magnets could you still make it run. Now what is my Axel motor?
John B

If Eds "flywheel" were to be a motor or generator it would need a coil. Perhaps thats where the PMH comes in. It would achieve a similiar result to what you are doing by extending your cores at the bottom, accept eds machine used alternating poles and yours is a monopole. So maybe the machine would look like this.

[Matthew Jones]

The works of this machine have been discovered many times and many different geometries. I do know what the machine should look like and what it could do it could be used for two different functions/ or combined functions. he left two different things and the group just needs to put it together it should be what their after.
John B

Well I still feelsomewhat lost. There are parts missing. But to me I do not feel that it was just generator. It also seems to have a motor function. Looking around at the part while he is standing there are alot of pulleys and chains at generator. Why?
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/siteb...ures/deons.jpg

The coils are also present One on the pole and one just front of the device as the camera is looking at. The one at the for front of the camera is also connected to the chain.

If one looks at this image we can see the correlation between the machine and this drawing.
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/siteb...sebasebase.jpg

But the center is the interesting part. The current top views of the generator show 8 holes present. Most likely this was the motor. The 8 holes contained magnets. Of course they are missing.

The only other motor function I can seem to find is a little off the wall but again if you look at those chains kinked up. The pipe they are connected to if they are locked in Like the motion holder they very well may be emitting some sort of field that the outer poles are synced with. This interaction may cause a motor effect. And even those inner magnets (If that what was there) might play into somehow and might even be the key to flipping the current and tricking the Lenz from showing up. So it would self run.
Lenz would would need to be eliminated.

It late I need sleep, A Bedini riddle will keep you up all night.

Matt

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Motor

Mathew,
Do not be fooled by the chins hanging in front of the coil, what do you see at the magnets across two poles, ED's iron coil. I assure you this is not a riddle it's a down right dirty torque motor or generator. You saw one run right in front of your face at the conference, just arranged different with pie shaped barium magnets.
As a matter speaking Rick had the makings of one on the 30 coiler. To bad we can't wind that coil. Ed's quote ( I have made more electricity with iron wire then copper.) And keeping you up all night did you good. after all you got the switch to work. Make it you will see. and it's not a Monopole
John B

[jerdee]

No Lenz's Law from Sweet 16

Jerdee, great theory, however what is the downfall of the switch? and how is it wasting power?

My previous post had lenz law fighting me in the slave coils, this was the downfall.

Three coils. what do they make up geometrical wise?

Now I see the interferometry!! It's the dual counter wound coils!!! Is this what drove GE nuts, biased voltage with little current?

Also this is what I believe is happening at the axle motor/generator.
This is how I see the barium ferrite regauged between the north poles!!!!!
You said equal and opposite phases.
We have to create no lenz law at the switch...No current needed!!! Drop it below!!!

Can hardly sleep here!!!

Thank you John!!!

[Armagdn03]

My previous post had lenz law fighting me in the slave coils, this was the downfall.



Know I see the interferometry!! It's the dual counter wound coils!!! Is this what what drove GE nuts, biased voltage with little current?

Also this is what I believe is happening at the axle motor/generator.
This is how I see the barium ferrite regauged between the north poles!!!!!
You said equal and opposite phases.
We have to create no lenz law at the switch...No current needed!!! Drop it below!!!

Can hardly sleep here!!!

Thank you John!!!

@ Jardee

Why then did john say the generator was used to keep the wheel from spinning up to fast at the conference? Sounds like lenz to me. I am not saying you are wrong, I just would like that a straight.

[Matthew Jones]

I hate to keep countering Jerdee but...


The green lines are the magnetic poles of the permanent magnets on the ferris wheels.
If you look and the position the coils would be in there is no effect from Lenz because everything is balanced out, an equal amount of attraction and repulsion.
If you look to the center 8 circles (in the drawing) that redirect. This is the key to why everything balances out. John used the Bariums, and could dynamical change poles so he could isolate the between his coil positions at 8 oclock to 5 oclock.
Unless one of us has figured how to get hold of bariums and make them oscillate fields, WE ARE GOING to have to chase this effect around the full 360 of the wheel where it would normally reside. Our solution may not be a model that resembles Johns at all.

If you start to think about this field arrangement as a possibility it makes it easier to see why the axle motor could run the entire wheel, and not have to deal with the attraction of the outer magnets to coil. The regauging also effected the field on the outer band as well.

If I am right, or we can figure this thing out and gets confirmed then I can make an animation of something to show this effect. Although I have picture its hard to describe.

Matt

[Matthew Jones]

@ Jardee

Why then did john say the generator was used to keep the wheel from spinning up to fast at the conference? Sounds like lenz to me. I am not saying you are wrong, I just would like that a straight.

I believe that when it was free wheeling in front of us all day.
Had the generator coils not been present the Lenz free motor would have continued to accelerate. While the coils were off the Lenz that was present controlled this from happening. "42 lbs of attraction"
But when the whole thing was running this effect was controlled by the axle motor and the time it switched based on the need to reduce Lenz around the energizer as theorized in my above thread.

Matt

[Armagdn03]

I believe that when it was free wheeling in front of us all day.
Had the generator coils not been present the Lenz free motor would have continued to accelerate. While the coils were off the Lenz that was present controlled this from happening. "42 lbs of attraction"
But when the whole thing was running this effect was controlled by the axle motor and the time it switched based on the need to reduce Lenz around the energizer as theorized in my above thread.

Matt

You may be right, however I was under the impression that it was freewheeling with the re-gauging of the barium ferrite magnets during most of the session,

however when it was being fully run, the barium ferrite section turned into a generator to keep it from spinning up too fast.

[everyidea]

Would something like this work as a gen/motor? I noticed he had a ton of coiled bottles laying around and thought I'd use them. Around the wheel he only has two wooden ledges to use as supports, so that leaves me to believe he used one for a motor support and the other as the generator support.

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