Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[John_K]

It Runs...

Hi All,

Well, I have my 4' "S1GT" running.

It is only running off a 12V 7Ah gel "lab rat", draws about 750mA and speeds along at 34RPM.

I couldn't get it to run off hall switching yet as the halls I bought were no good, so it's using the thinner windings on the main coil in series as a trigger. Luckily, some nice chap has posted some halls to me which should arrive before the weekend. (thanks ren )

Not pulsing the cap yet either, just charging a secondary battery. It's another 12V 7Ah "lab rat", but it started at ~12.5V and is up to 14.2V after about 30 minutes.

The rotor is a bit wonky and out of balance a bit, so it needs some work.

Lots of work still to do, but at least it is a start. A couple of pics attached...


John K.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hi All,

Well, I have my 4' "S1GT" running.

It is only running off a 12V 7Ah gel "lab rat", draws about 750mA and speeds along at 34RPM.

I couldn't get it to run off hall switching yet as the halls I bought were no good, so it's using the thinner windings on the main coil in series as a trigger. Luckily, some nice chap has posted some halls to me which should arrive before the weekend. (thanks ren )

Not pulsing the cap yet either, just charging a secondary battery. It's another 12V 7Ah "lab rat", but it started at ~12.5V and is up to 14.2V after about 30 minutes.

The rotor is a bit wonky and out of balance a bit, so it needs some work.

Lots of work still to do, but at least it is a start. A couple of pics attached...


John K.

Very nice John.

Jeff

[darkwizard]

The way i can see all of this, it is a generator that overcomes lenz law through the powering of the coils, all the energy is captured in the cap, the magnet energy generates some lenz drag but it is compensated by using the energy that is in the cap, it generates radiant that goes to the same cap, if i acelerate this system with a "motor" (it can be another coil connected to a battery) it will increase his speed to infinity? so i can have a big motor with many hp just wasting some amps?

The generator function will be if i put all the electrical energy that the system generates going to an external output, and the motor/generator speed will keep going constant

In other words we can choose the mode of operation of the machine.

I see all of this clearly OU, it is in front of your eyes (and mine), now money is only important to get the materials and "do it"

[darkwizard]

just the same thing several years ago, just the same, the people dont understand what is in front of their eyes, neither the scopeshots, i am seeing this very clearly, the packs of energy that are coming IN and the packs of energy that are going OUT.

[david.brown]

re-upload

@Mark P

Thanks for that, the drawing didn’t take to long thankfully, trying to get my head around how the two section switch and align has fried my head never mind learning about Mag Amp principles, asymmetrical magnetic field arrangements, code 144 and ED's writings.

Unfortunately it’s flat out at work at the minute, everybody wants every thing done before Christmas, I will re-upload as soon as I catch a minute.

@ All,

I just want to say Thank You All there are some really talented out of the box thinkers here with some valuable skills, Keep Er Lit yous are helping me so much to look at every thing in different ways.

@ John Bedini,

I take my hat off to you, I have been going through the olded posts and you have been hit with a LOT of questions, Thanks for all your posts.

Cheers,

David Brown (Belfast)

David,

Nice work on the drawing, that must have taken a little time to do.
While your making your corrections, there is one more slight change.
The star motor as you call it has ten coils, five are slightly off from the
other five. If I had to guess I would say about 2.5 degrees, but John
would know more percisely. The magnets stay like they are. At least that
is the way I saw it to be.
Mark P.

[mklimesh]

Interesting Observation

I first got this new monopole running on a SG circuit with the trigger winding. The axle is north and south. The center axle showed a strong south pole, a compass would spin around and point to it from aprox 16" away.
With the B/C circuit the compass has to be right up to it to get a small deflection and will not point to it even when right next to it.
Scope shots across c-e of the upper and lower transistors are very different.
Upper has a spike larger than the input bat voltage and output bat volt combined.
Lower quite different.


Mike Klimesh

[ren]

Nice work John K, looks pretty big makes your coil look tiny. Let me know how u go with the halls

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

John K,
How big is your coil ? what is the Z in DC Ohms?
John B

Hi All,

Well, I have my 4' "S1GT" running.

It is only running off a 12V 7Ah gel "lab rat", draws about 750mA and speeds along at 34RPM.

I couldn't get it to run off hall switching yet as the halls I bought were no good, so it's using the thinner windings on the main coil in series as a trigger. Luckily, some nice chap has posted some halls to me which should arrive before the weekend. (thanks ren )

Not pulsing the cap yet either, just charging a secondary battery. It's another 12V 7Ah "lab rat", but it started at ~12.5V and is up to 14.2V after about 30 minutes.

The rotor is a bit wonky and out of balance a bit, so it needs some work.

Lots of work still to do, but at least it is a start. A couple of pics attached...


John K.

[John_K]

Coil size

John K,
How big is your coil ? what is the Z in DC Ohms?
John B

Hi John B,

It's a standard 3" Pittsfiled spool from Rick. (pic attached)

It has 2 x #21 and 2 x #24. From memory, it was 4.6 ohms and 6.5 ohms but I will measure the Z when I get home tonight to be sure and let you know.


John K.

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

John K,
I would use that coil for the side coils. and wind another by putting two of the bobbins together double the impedance in Ohms 14. And make sure you put the shield on the bottom then run the Bedini/Cole circuit. The capacitor should be about 18000Uf use a SCR and a 4.7volt Zener with two 2.8 volt super bright Leds in series with the diode circuit. Machine RPM should be not more then 25 Rpm's. just giving you a tip. Good Work

John B

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Mike,
Explain a little more of what your doing here, Let me see across the switch where you should have put the diode bridge. Or if you did not hook it up and run the wires back to the primary battery and lets see the scope shot, that will tell everything. I'm looking for a different wave form then what your showing. It looks like your overshooting the devices.

John B

I first got this new monopole running on a SG circuit with the trigger winding. The axle is north and south. The center axle showed a strong south pole, a compass would spin around and point to it from aprox 16" away.
With the B/C circuit the compass has to be right up to it to get a small deflection and will not point to it even when right next to it.
Scope shots across c-e of the upper and lower transistors are very different.
Upper has a spike larger than the input bat voltage and output bat volt combined.
Lower quite different.


Mike Klimesh

[John_K]

John K,
I would use that coil for the side coils. and wind another by putting two of the bobbins together double the impedance in Ohms 14. And make sure you put the shield on the bottom then run the Bedini/Cole circuit. The capacitor should be about 18000Uf use a SCR and a 4.7volt Zener with two 2.8 volt super bright Leds in series with the diode circuit. Machine RPM should be not more then 25 Rpm's. just giving you a tip. Good Work

John B

Hi John B,

Thanks for the tip. I'll have to order more wire and R60 rods, so it might take some time. Would you also suggest thicker wire since I have to order it? I was considering #20 & #22 for this sized machine. I'd imagine the SCR would have to be pretty beefy too so it doesn't latch when dumping the cap.


John K.

[BrentA929]

John K,

Looking good!

I too have designed my wheel for a 4' diameter. Do you think that there is any special requirements on distance between magnets? I have ordered 6"x2"x1" ceramics and 2"x1"x0.5" neos. Starting to wonder if those are too big for this size wheel. It puts the about 7.5" from edge to edge. Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks, Brent

Hi All,

Well, I have my 4' "S1GT" running.

It is only running off a 12V 7Ah gel "lab rat", draws about 750mA and speeds along at 34RPM.

I couldn't get it to run off hall switching yet as the halls I bought were no good, so it's using the thinner windings on the main coil in series as a trigger. Luckily, some nice chap has posted some halls to me which should arrive before the weekend. (thanks ren )

Not pulsing the cap yet either, just charging a secondary battery. It's another 12V 7Ah "lab rat", but it started at ~12.5V and is up to 14.2V after about 30 minutes.

The rotor is a bit wonky and out of balance a bit, so it needs some work.

Lots of work still to do, but at least it is a start. A couple of pics attached...


John K.

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

John K,
I would not spend much on the SCR it's just basically a direct switch and will switch off at the battery level. Keep with the same wire size if you can. If you want the discharge to go fast then lower the capacitor 10000uf faster yet 5000uf. If you take the capacitor to low it will be a steady stream of radiant current. If I know you, you will find the sweet spot.
John B

[nvisser]

John K,
I would use that coil for the side coils. and wind another by putting two of the bobbins together double the impedance in Ohms 14. And make sure you put the shield on the bottom then run the Bedini/Cole circuit. The capacitor should be about 18000Uf use a SCR and a 4.7volt Zener with two 2.8 volt super bright Leds in series with the diode circuit. Machine RPM should be not more then 25 Rpm's. just giving you a tip. Good Work

John B

Hi John
Is this circuit correct. Is there any specific reason why you use the 2 leds instead of a higher value zener
Vissie

John said the following , so I updated the diagram.
"I think I would turn that Zener around and you will see why I did it that way John B