Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

G,meat,
No trick here it is running on the primary battery and returning the energy right back. it is RE-Gauging no energy wasted. It's all on Tom Bearden's
Pages. Nothing hidden here, unless you want it to be hidden. Look it up you will see what is going on.
John B

[John_K]

S1GT and the weather in AU

Hi John B,

Thanks for your concern. Fortunately I'm about as far away from Cyclone Yasi (Cyclone Yasi - Latest cyclone news and updates for cyclone Yasi) as you are from Sylmar.

Although I do have a brother who lives about 100 miles from there. He's fine though.

The weather in AU has been strange - floods and cyclones in the North of the country and heatwaves in the South. Breaking all the records. Something is going on.

BTW, since I'm waiting for parts for my S1GT and magnesium for my rock motor I'm experimenting with a "solid state S1GT". If this works how I want it to, it will knock everyone's socks off Just using what you have shared over the years...


John K.

Gmeat,

I'm here most of the time so ask away.
John K hope you guy's are ok, looks like your going to get beat to death.
Idaho has missed all the big storms, It could be the magnetic fields in this area it's just colder thin shi....
John B

[kcarring]

"longer" (time) spike

@JohnB

Does the lowered speed of the GT3 present a situation where the breakdown of the field is slower and thus the waveform and the sweet spot is stretched over time, thus capturing more energy or am I seeing it completely wrong.

Thanks

[nvisser]

Hi All,

It has been very quite lately on the forum so I just thought I would drop a line to say that I am still working away at trying to get my attempt of a Modified Bedini Cole Switch to switch just right.

At the minute I can't get the PNP section to drop to zero volts (across the Emmitter & Collector) its currently sitting at 1 volt when it is switching on, it is causing it to heat up a bit, but it looks nice and square apart from that.

As soon as I get switching just right I will post what I have been doing.

Cheers,

David Brown (Belfast).

David
The good thing about this linear audio transistors is their hi safe operating area. So they could be used with high input voltages without any problems.
[High SOA: 2.25 A, 80 V, 1 Second
The bad thing is their high Vce(sat). That is the voltage drop or loss between the C and E while in saturation. (Fully switched on.)
Collector -emitter saturation voltage
Ic=8A, Ib 0.8Adc Vce(sat) = 1.4V
Ic=16A, Ib=3.2Adc Vce(sat) = 4v

That means from the datasheet you can see that you won’t really be able to get it lower than 1V
Vissie

[david.brown]

Nvisser,

Happy Days, Thanks for that!

Now I can move forward with a bit more confidence know that the switching is close to what it should be.

I was trying everything to get the transistor to drop to Zero volts at saturation, as you may be able to tell I’m new to electronics but I’m working my way (slowly) to the end result.

Again, THANKS!

David Brown (Belfast)

David
The good thing about this linear audio transistors is their hi safe operating area. So they could be used with high input voltages without any problems.
[High SOA: 2.25 A, 80 V, 1 Second
The bad thing is their high Vce(sat). That is the voltage drop or loss between the C and E while in saturation. (Fully switched on.)
Collector -emitter saturation voltage
Ic=8A, Ib 0.8Adc Vce(sat) = 1.4V
Ic=16A, Ib=3.2Adc Vce(sat) = 4v

That means from the datasheet you can see that you won’t really be able to get it lower than 1V
Vissie

[Les_K]

Gmeat,

I'm here most of the time so ask away.
John K hope you guy's are ok, looks like your going to get beat to death.
Idaho has missed all the big storms, It could be the magnetic fields in this area it's just colder thin shi....
John B

20 degrees below zero last night here. tonight is only just below zero so far. Any chance the 3gt can heat a few things up around here?

Just checking, but are the outside 16 magnets barium? I thought just the inside pie shaped ones were the only barium in the system.

Les

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

AT@
I think I said what I was looking for with the SOA curves, but again you must do 1 amp at DC. That has not been a problem as long as you keep the device around 35 to 45 C.

The one volt drop is expected in all these devices so that is not new. If you feel that it is not good enough change things to Fet's, and that is not going to be an easy task to do since you can't find very many that are complementary at high power. Except for some audio devices. Then you will face other problems.
John B

[genessc]

Hi Dave,

Yeah no doubt this knowledge has to be learned personally on the workbench for it to have any real meaning to the one claiming knowledge. I have alot of stuff around the garage as well but not the means to build such a large diameter rotor.

I think like you then as I too sit and will change a single parameter and then watch to see what various other areas that one change impacted.

John B, from the little I know, got to see alot of these devices and inventors firsthand and in person and to fiddle with the devices to sorta see how they work. He is a very unique man with a very unique understanding based on the many contexts of devices hes worked on, built uniquely himself and other devices he replicated from other findings. He is the only "living" inventor willing to share and even talk to use lowly guys who aspire to become like him. Every other living inventor wants money up front except John.

You are very much right in wanting to know and do for yourself. We'll find out soon enough I think that we only have ourselves to rely on as the systems will be getting removed and these winter storms are going to affect the spring/summer harvest... and the result will be hyperinflation thru cost of goods.

Anyways I'm learning too. Every new context rounds out the proper model for me... which isn't looking much like the book model shared by academia.

I am wondering what Joule potential (read capacitor uF value at voltage) is needed thru what Inductance (read single strand coil) to generate what amount of force against a permanent magnet face when firing in repulsion.

It would seem that using a low resistance but high inductance coil might facilitate more torque for a set Joule discharge than another lower inductance higher resistance coil might. I *think* the higher inductance relates to a higher dephasing of current from the voltage signal being discharged from the capacitor... thus sorta keeping the "current" in the cap rather than letting it zero out the voltage on the cap when firing thru an inductance. I've begun detailing a practical method to be able to get a feel for how this should can be "practically" determined.

Good job to all working and contributing to this thread.

Kind regards,
Gene

I understand what you are saying, but this was not an expensive project since I already had most of the wire/transistors/magnets sitting around from other projects that I have been working on. All that I am doing is trying to replicate a small version so that I may be familiar with it when my friend and I build a larger one.

The only things that I have done so far is what John Bedini has posted in clear letters. There are a few things that stray from his design, but they don't stray far and aren't anything that I cannot change around without much effort.

John has spent the majority of his life investigating this energy that we are trying to harness. Nobody gave him the clear cut answers. He had to figure it out with trial and error.

Since a lot of the questions that are directed towards John are not answered directly, I am experimenting because every different variation of circuit that I study will give me insight on how any variation in parameters or geometry contribute to the energy that I am looking for.

Don't get me wrong. I would love to have the answer to all of his machines, but I feel that when the whole world turns into an anarchist state just like Egypt. It would be nice to have the knowledge from personal experimentation so that I may be of assistance to my fellow man.



Dave

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Gene,
That is very true as I did work with some of the best engineering minds through my life, but it does not end here.Chuck was right in what he was telling you about my work. I just do not stop with the Monopole Motors but keep going since I find much more to learn.

If I could live 1000 years I would not have enough time, but we all know that is not possible at this time. I apply everything I have ever learned in my projects, and I have said before I put my pants on just like everybody else. I find nothing that would stop me from discussing the work, but I will not do it for you or anybody else. if I do that none would learn anything here, we learn by doing.

Unfortunately a few have taken the secret to the grave with them, but not me. I always point everybody in the right direction so you can succeed, but who is listening. As I said before the GT 3 is a much different Monopole Energizer, does not follow the same rules as the others. Again timing and speed is important to the charging effect.
John B

[John_K]

Bedini GT3

I gotta agree with John B again. I've been replicating what he has made public for around 4 years. I still have heaps to learn, but I will never stop learning.

Everything I have replicated works when you follow his instructions. I put my pants on the same way as John does. If you don't know how it works just build it as he says and get it working. Then study it until you figure it out.

The concept isn't that hard to grasp and a lot of people like to over think and over complicate it. The "secret" is in the switching and the timing and knowing what each part of the system is doing at each point in time.

Yes, you get better results if you use the right parts for the job, just like baking a cake. I don't see this as a big mystery. When I built my first vanilla SSG I didn't have a clue how the machine worked or how batteries behave. I just built it and studied it.

I had to research everything to find out how things work and there's still heaps to learn. It's hard work and takes a lot of time. I have a graveyard of parts I've blown up along the way but everytime I let the smoke out of something it's a learning experience.

So if anyone has any doubts about this just get in the shed and build it. Expect to make mistakes but make sure you learn from them. Don't give up, this IS the real deal and anyone can do it.

Anyone who tells you different just hasn't done the experiments or didn't follow the instructions.


John K.

[Aaron]

Renaissance Conference Video - Bedini

This just came out:
PRESENTATION

[genessc]

Hi John B,

I agree with all you said. One person is not equal to another person, and thats sorta the point in being so that we can all learn to appreciate each other. Its great that you are willing to share your knowledge and devices with us as each new context allows us to continue to grow our own knowledge. (and knowledge is earned thru ones own work on the bench, not armchair theorists.)

There is a difference between Guessing and Replicating tho. Without a schematic we are just guessing at which way to connect everything up properly. I don't say this to cause you to post a schematic, but simply to note the difference of having a "map" to follow, rather than trying to discover the topography while exploring the terrain. These devices interactions, while appearing simple, are not so simple. Each provides a new context to try and understand to fit in with the existing contexts of replicated systems.

I am grateful for the iterations of context you have shared over the years. The SG. The Window motor. The Cole switch. All the various DVD's you worked with Cheniere to put out. Every thing you share is not being wasted by those of us who want to "know" for ourselves.

One of these systems has to lead to OU enough to be practically used for survival. Hopefully we as a group can cobble something together to help facilitate this sort of evolution, without some need to make money as the goal.

Thanks for taking the time to reply John B. You are a good man in my eyes.

Gene

Gene,
That is very true as I did work with some of the best engineering minds through my life, but it does not end here.Chuck was right in what he was telling you about my work. I just do not stop with the Monopole Motors but keep going since I find much more to learn.

If I could live 1000 years I would not have enough time, but we all know that is not possible at this time. I apply everything I have ever learned in my projects, and I have said before I put my pants on just like everybody else. I find nothing that would stop me from discussing the work, but I will not do it for you or anybody else. if I do that none would learn anything here, we learn by doing.

Unfortunately a few have taken the secret to the grave with them, but not me. I always point everybody in the right direction so you can succeed, but who is listening. As I said before the GT 3 is a much different Monopole Energizer, does not follow the same rules as the others. Again timing and speed is important to the charging effect.
John B

[Les_K]

"If I could live 1000 years I would not have enough time, but we all know that is not possible at this time. "

around the corner though.

"I always point everybody in the right direction so you can succeed, but who is listening. "

I am

Although I may not understand it all yet...

One other thing John, When you say Don't do this....Well....I do it! I have found that you are right this way. Ok I am a black sheep in that regard but doing things wrong is sometimes just as important as doing them right. Fet's Neos, and many other things I have done. All validate your work.
Everything I have replicated as you describe to do it, works just as you say it Does....

Thank you for sharing
Les

[Ecancanvas]

RS mosfet cap pulser

has anyone had any luck with Rs mosfet pulser from prev pages. I used a Diac 28v instead of the 77v with a 10000uf cap trying to charge a 12v but the cap holds a 31v charge with no pulsing on my meter. the mosfet must be turned on or my charge rate would be going up. any ideas would be great.
ED

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Ecancanvas,
The Switch is something we all should work on, it's going to take time to work out all the bugs. I have been working on that but I'm not ready to say anything.
John B