Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[cornfused]

Brushless motor??

Seems to me that Ed's wheel may be a brushless motor??

[nenergy]

Ed's generator

Seems to me that Ed's wheel may be a brushless motor??

Ed's generator used ferromagnetic coils. Iron push and pulls , copper only pulls.

He always said that he made more electricity with iron then copper. His generator was able to overcome the back drag -Lenz by allowing the induced field to close upon itself, just as illustrated in his current holder closed core. That is the effect of the bloch shield, to contain the magnetic field and avoid loss.

As long as you think of electron and amperage, you will never get it. It's N/S poles running opposite and it's intensity is magnetic current.

[nenergy]

closed core

Wound ED's current holder and use it as your field coil and see if it makes sense. Use only ferromagnetic material, iron or steel wire etc, or cut a transformer in half and use as field coil.

coil wound on laminated iron core is not a temporary magnet, it is a magnetic field conductor.

[sseti]

Ed's generator used ferromagnetic coils. Iron push and pulls , copper only pulls.

He always said that he made more electricity with iron then copper. His generator was able to overcome the back drag -Lenz by allowing the induced field to close upon itself, just as illustrated in his current holder closed core. That is the effect of the bloch shield, to contain the magnetic field and avoid loss.

As long as you think of electron and amperage, you will never get it. It's N/S poles running opposite and it's intensity is magnetic current.

As I see in ed book Magnetic current, he claim something else:

he claims, if he does not use iron core in the coil, he can make more of magnetic current with soft iron wire coil, then he can with copper wire coil. so it is perfectly good to use iron wire to demonstrate how magnetic current are made.

As i understand, he does not claim, that he made more electrity with iron wire than copper wire, just more magnetical to demonstrates pruposes.
Maybe Im wrong, but .. ?????
??
Tadej

[darkwizard]

i just think that the switching must be when no magnets are present in the U core. Maybe im wrong.

[darkwizard]

your diagram shows that the bar itself captures magnetism from the vacuum? and the electrical output is there, the coil isn't needed?

[redrichie]

this is only theory but i will try to test by end of week. the pmh may not be top dead center for both poles. but instead the difference of Phi. slightly offset so self-regauging can occur. a good spin to start the process and the flip flop should start setting up the attracting and repelling fields in the cores. iron wire to make more magnets and make a stronger pole for the super pole to pass by.

[Matthew Jones]

this is only theory but i will try to test by end of week. the pmh may not be top dead center for both poles. but instead the difference of Phi. slightly offset so self-regauging can occur. a good spin to start the process and the flip flop should start setting up the attracting and repelling fields in the cores. iron wire to make more magnets and make a stronger pole for the super pole to pass by.

That would be a good test. It also may require more than one wire around the iron charging and discharging in a Non Linear fashion.

Matt

[nenergy]

As i understand, he does not claim, that he made more electrity with iron wire than copper wire, just more magnetical to demonstrates pruposes.
Maybe Im wrong, but .. ?????
??
Tadej

Isn't that what he called electricity?.

a stream of magnetic N/S poles, what we call current he called it magnetic current

SI can handle any quantity of polarities applied as long as it does not become saturated.

What happens to the back-emf if the magnetic field has been confined in a closed core stator?.

[Turion]

ED said that magnetic currents (electrical currents???) are made (created???) in three steps. By concentrating, by dividing, and by shifting the north and south pole magnets from one place to another. The educator in me says that we should break this process down into the three parts and devise the most economical method of achieving each step. John has told us there are many ways to skin this cat, and as a “team” we should be thinking of the different ways these steps can be accomplished, provided we all agree that these are the three steps. I am just going by what ED says, and I hope John will agree.

Step One. Concentrate the North and south Pole Magnets in one area.
How he said to do it:
1. Making Current With Permanent and Electric Magnets and without either
A. He spun a permanent magnet within the magnetic field created by his charged “perpetual motion magnet” and the two wires used to charge the perpetual motion magnet produced electricity
B. When he pulled the bar off his perpetual motion magnet, more electricity was produced.
C. When he moved a coil within this field that had a light attached to it, the light lit up as it moved into the field and again as it moved out of the field. He said it lit twice because the current changed directions in the coil. This, I believe, is what John keeps talking about.
D. Ed said “All currents are made the same way by filling the coil and iron core with North and South Pole individual magnets and then giving enough time for the magnets to get out of the way and starting over again.
E. When the coil with the iron core was inserted into the field of the charged electro magnet with the bar across the end, ED says “The U shaped magnet was losing its strength up to the time it began to break away from the iron core, but during the time it broke away it regained its strength. The breaking away from the iron core recharged and it became normal again, ready for its next start. The new supply of magnets came from the air or the earth’s magnetic field”.
2. The “collector” in ED’s design, this would be the coil and perhaps the mass of chains and metal he had hanging over the wheel. Here is what I THINK I know from what Ed said, and from observing what is going on in John’s devices. We collect these “magnets" in our coil. Ed said the most efficient coil was a core wrapped in wire, encased in iron where both ends of the case are touching both ends of the core, and there are two holes in the case for the coil windings to come out. In his words, “it wastes no magnets created by your dynamo.” Would it be even stronger if it had a magnet attached to the end farthest away from the wheel?
3. As the coil wound on a core passes through the field created by the electromagnet, the core collects the individual North and South Pole magnets. Their bulk is separated by the strands of the coil, and they are moved out of contact with the field of the electro magnet, which causes it to fill up again.
4. I see these principles in the Kromrey, in the Watson device, In Johns many devices and in what ED built. It’s all there. We just have to put it all together and make it work. Hope this all made sense to everyone. I also hope I got it all right. I tried to make sure I spoke in ED’s words and not my own.

[nenergy]

overcoming lenz

This design actually has partially open cores, but the core gaps are not in the area where the magnetic fingers pas the cores. Even this renders Lenz Law ineffective. This design lends itself to three phase power generation with different windings. As you may appreciate, only one rotating magnetic plate with fingers is actually necessary as long as there is no gap between the stator and the rotor in the center. The gaps introduced between the outer leg of the individual cores (gray) and the stator plate (blue) serve to prevent splitting of the passing field between the two legs, which would lower the efficiency of induction in the coils. As you may also see, this version is again brush less.

You need only imagination and a bit of electric induction knowledge to figure out all the different ways in which the coils can be arranged and connected for different purposes of power production. There is actually a way to produce pulsed DC.

Generators with closed core stator construction, as well as partly closed stator construction, if half decently executed, will not suffer from the phenomenon called back torque. Back torque is the force which every source of mechanical power (like a steam turbine) has to overcome the more so, the greater is the power draw from the generator.

[darkwizard]

I found this page very useful


Lenz Law

Is not only the explanation of Lenz Law, it shows a generator, and it talks about ED at the next page.

[darkwizard]

this is where nenergy obtained his diagram

[nenergy]

magnetic current

this is where nenergy obtained his diagram

if you had only asked.
very well worth the read.
index 3

Magnetic Energy to Heal the Planet


hey guys, what does kromley converter, lindermann transformer, g-field, romag, meg and other anti-lenz generators all have in common?.

from S.D.K.
Questions

What makes Lenz Law applicable to the contemporary power generation?

What underlying principle causes magnification of magnetic field initiated by a coil under electric current? [As it is a known fact that a given coil with an iron (ferromagnetic if you insist) core produces much stronger magnetic field than the same coil without the iron core.]

Why did Ed Leedskalnin say: "I made more electricity with steel than I ever made with copper"?

What kind of electric generator did Ed Leedskalnin attempt to patent in the US according to his own claim, a patent application which has never appeared on US patent Office records?

What has really happened to Ed Leedskalnin? This is the same man who lived alone in his majestic Coral Castle without paying a penny to an electric utility company having no hydro hook up. Yet he had electric power available on the premises without any known source. This man tried to patent something with which electricity can be produced, a generator. This man has disappeared one day leaving only a note on his door: "Gone to the hospital". He allegedly dies two days later in the hospital of cancer. Not a single witness to his last trip, no one claiming to have given him a ride. Did the man, who should have been laid down on his death bed, really walk for miles to get to the hospital?

Answers

1. It is only now when I have realized the significance of my experimenting with diamagnetism and its impact on the contemporary power production and the Lenz Law. This experimenting reveals that diamagnetism is only a temporarily induced property.

Diamagnetism is caused by induction of circular (eddy) electric currents within some materials, copper being one of them. As an external magnetic field approaches copper (let copper stand in for any diamagnetic material), eddy currents induced within copper create their own magnetic field, which always opposes the polarity of the induction field. Therefore the copper is temporarily repulsed by the approaching external magnetic field, disregards its polarity. This repulsion eventually disappears as the eddy currents within cease to flow. Once the magnetic field is being withdrawn from the copper, the diamagnetism reverses and now the copper follows, or appears to be attracted by the external magnetic field. This is the underlying principle behind the Lenz Law effect in copper coil assisted standard power generation.

2. Ferromagnetism is again caused by induced eddy currents within the ferromagnetic material (let iron stand for all ferromagnetic materials). The differences between diamagnetism and ferromagnetism are as follows:
Iron material structure organizes itself under the influence of an external magnetic field for the duration of that influence, as opposed to diamagnetism.
Ferromagnetism is always attractive, as opposed to diamagnetism, which is directionally alternating.
Iron has the capacity to grossly enhance the density of the external magnetic field, as opposed to diamagnetism, which never even matches the density of the external field. The ferromagnetic enhancement is caused by domain restructuring. While diamagnetism only induces eddies in the existing crystalline structure, ferromagnetism also changes the material structure by blocks (domains).

3. Ed Leedskalnin has stated "I made more electricity with steel, than I ever made with copper", because he has found out during his experimentations that induction of steel wire coil by a magnetic field always caused attractive force between the inducing field and the field of the induced coil, as opposed to a copper coil. This means that a magnetic rotor finger approaching a steel coil is attracted to that coil. As it retreats, it is again attracted to it. This comes to a wash and there is no net back torque on the rotor except for friction.

4. Following that, Ed Leedskalnin had built a generator with steel wire windings, or more likely rewound an existing one securing for himself his own source of free electric power. He lived happily ever after till the time when his vanity got better of him and made him to apply for a patent on his invention. Only that this is the big No-No explicitly spelled out in US Patent Office regulations. US Patent Office will not issue a patent for anything, which is claimed to provide free energy or, in their own language, a perpetual motion machine. Because Ed's was an over unity device, Ed's patent application has never made it into the US patent office records, never mind ever being granted.

5. And, because someone got somehow hold of Ed's patent application and found out (or knew) that the thing worked, Ed Leedskalnin had suddenly died "of cancer".

[John_K]

Magnetic fields

Hi All,

I've atatcehd a couple of pics. The first one is John's original drawing showing how he see the magnetic fields on the Monopole rotor.

The second pic is John's orginal drawing modified with the neo tipped magnets and the metal shield on the bottom of the coil and the magnetic fields the way I see it. Note that this is the Southern hemisphere version and in this pic I show the fields when the rotor is static and the coil is not charged.

Not sure if this is a true representation, just the way I see it.


John K.