Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[Aaron]

magnet

If I let it sit where it wanted to, it would move to the edge of the ferrite.

Looks like it knows where to go.

[BrentA929]

John K,

I just tried it, but with a ceramic magnet and a neo magnet...

Interesting!

S (ceramic) to S (neo) it goes right in the middle and dislikes the edges, but S (cermic) to N (neo) it pushes to the edges and doesn't like the middle.

Strange! Is this what you are seeing?

My question is this: Is a super pole magnet the same as a scalar magnet? My understanding is that scalar is two north poles forced together to create a north beam. And what we are discussing on the "Bedini Ferris Wheel" is super pole magnets, right?


Thanks, Brent

Hi All,

I had an interesting observation last night. I was working on placing the small neo on the back of the ferrite magnet. After double checking the polarity of each magnet I found that the neo did not want to sit in the middle of the ferrite. If I let it sit where it wanted to, it would move to the edge of the ferrite.

I think I know why it does this. Anyone else want to take a stab at the answer? The answer will tell you why John B did it this way. And confirm what he is trying to teach us.


John K.

[John_K]

Brent,

Yes, this is what I'm seeing and you are in the right track.

And no, the Ferris Wheel does not use superpoles.

Now you have done the experiment, try and map out the fields. Also think about where the energy comes from to charge the magnets.


John K.

John K,

I just tried it, but with a ceramic magnet and a neo magnet...

Interesting!

S (ceramic) to S (neo) it goes right in the middle and dislikes the edges, but S (cermic) to N (neo) it pushes to the edges and doesn't like the middle.

Strange! Is this what you are seeing?

My question is this: Is a super pole magnet the same as a scalar magnet? My understanding is that scalar is two north poles forced together to create a north beam. And what we are discussing on the "Bedini Ferris Wheel" is super pole magnets, right?


Thanks, Brent

[redrichie]

I used a typical ceramic block magnet and a .25 inch neo cylinder. mine want to center itself. Let me see if I can explain my "feeling". North and south pole magnets are constantly running from their pole to the opposite pole and back out the pole theycame from. I feel there is "vortex" or "pump" here. In repulsion mode all is "solid", there is something to run against. In attraction mode the magnets all want to run together.

Or the neos magnets are speeding out faster than the ceramic. I can feel the opposing magnets running against the neo once i break away from edge and hover right around the outside.

The bloch wall has something really special to reveal I believe. When 2 magnets are put together in attraction mode the block wall has not moved to the center of the 2 magnets. There are 2 of them,
The power of infinity I guess

[Matthew Jones]

I believe that to be more casting issue.

I have some low grade 5 ceramics that do it (act the way you describe) and I have some high grade 8 that don't.

Lower grade magnets actually can have dead spots in them.

The other thing to consider is the density of the ceramic. The neo will over power the ceramic every time. It will attract to the dense areas of the magnet before it attracts to the less dense. Physical appearance will not show the density issues.

Like wise you can take 2 magnets of the same size a neo and ceramic and shove the north faces of both together until the ceramic attach's itself. At that point look at the ceramic under iron filings or green field paper. You will have little to no uniform behavior in your field.

I don't want go to far off the subject of the ferris wheel, but when it comes to reshaping your fields the stronger magnet is what is moving the fields around. The weaker magnet is forced to comply with the stronger one.

Howard Johnson did this frequently to reshape, remove, or alter field paths so that he could take advantage of a single corner's oscillations. While at the same time retaining all its flux value and not shedding down the path. In other words he keep his fields tight and local to the area they originated.
Often you'll see he started with a strong magnet for one pole and progressively drew down to smaller weaker magnetic material.

In my opinion the neo magnet on the back of the ceramic is used to raise the density of the north face of the ceramic. I still have not figured out if the south extending to the center of the wheel plays some advantage.

I'm sure If it is a big concern we'll hear about sooner or later.

Cheers
Matt

[Aaron]

@John

Aaron, Turion,

Nope. Do this simple experiment.

John, I know. I should have said - because they know where
to go. I was just being subtle.

Asymmetrical is what you want isn't it?

[Aaron]

@All

Has anyone analyzed ALL of Cody's posts? Maybe someone can compile them
all with the responses from John into one single message and see what Cody
is doing.

[Aaron]

look at the pics

Was the entire backside of John's big ceramics exposed? Or were the
neos limited to where they can go? Go look at the pics.

[John Smith]

Was the entire backside of John's big ceramics exposed? Or were the
neos limited to where they can go? Go look at the pics.

Hi Aaron

The neos were not limited to where they could go on the back of the Feris Wheel magnets. John has placed them exactly where he wanted them for maximum effect.

Cheers John S

[Aaron]

magnet placement

I'm not sure why some are so resistant to simply being told the
truth. John was right at the conference, he just tells the truth and nobody
will believe him anyway. They're rather argue. lol

I originally said the magnets like to go where they want and them I'm
corrected twice.

If the support that the large magnet was on was open to the same
dimensions as the magnet, WOULDN'T THE MAGNET FALL THROUGH??
OBVIOUSLY the magnet is retained by having a certain amount of the
border around the south face of the magnet covered.

And if some of these experiments are finding that the magnet likes to
move on it's own, then _______? Did John angle them or did he simply
place them in the middle and allowed the magnets to go where they like
within the area they are permitted to go?

I should keep my comments to myself since nobody will believe me either
when I tell them the plain and simple truth. I was just trying to give some
shortcuts to seeing what is done but I won't make that mistake again,
sorry to bother you.

[Aaron]

@John

The neos were not limited to where they could go on the back of the Feris Wheel magnets. John has placed them exactly where he wanted them for maximum effect.

If you say so.

[redrichie]

Aaron,
I remember seeing a short clip of John B attaching those neo magnets a little while back. Might have been in the Renaissance thread. Rotor was turning and John was placing them on real quickly. I thought at the time he was temporary placing them there or he already had them marked out and had done it a few times and he knew where to go. Now I see it was fast because they went where they needed to.

[DoubleD]

Yes Aaron you ARE right on this.

The magnets ARE aligning themselves.
I was right there when John even pulled one of the neos off (They are NOT glued on either) at that time he even made the comment that if he put them straight in there they would turn themselves.
I said it was because of the rotation of the magnetic field from the coil and he agreed.
Hope this helps a bit.

Dave

I'm not sure why some are so resistant to simply being told the
truth. John was right at the conference, he just tells the truth and nobody
will believe him anyway. They're rather argue. lol

I originally said the magnets like to go where they want and them I'm
corrected twice.

If the support that the large magnet was on was open to the same
dimensions as the magnet, WOULDN'T THE MAGNET FALL THROUGH??
OBVIOUSLY the magnet is retained by having a certain amount of the
border around the south face of the magnet covered.

And if some of these experiments are finding that the magnet likes to
move on it's own, then _______? Did John angle them or did he simply
place them in the middle and allowed the magnets to go where they like
within the area they are permitted to go?

I should keep my comments to myself since nobody will believe me either
when I tell them the plain and simple truth. I was just trying to give some
shortcuts to seeing what is done but I won't make that mistake again,
sorry to bother you.

[John_Bedini]

Big Bedini Wheel

TO ALL

I said at the conference that I put the neo's on the south poles to shape the field so that it made a nonlinear arrangement for switching. I did not glue anything to anything. I simply spun the wheel and watched where the magnetic spins wanted to go, that's where the magnet positioned itself.
I do not pull any tricks I always tell you everything but you have no faith in truth.

Aaron is right tell the truth no one will believe you. It is more exciting to believe in some mystical science that you can't prove.

My machine is what it is and nothing more. The machine has been what I said all along The monopole GT3 using a Bedini/Cole switch, I even told you where to mount the diodes, I even told you three coils in parallel and a negative switch. I even told you the coil weight so stop looking for some big secrete here.

All the monopole builders have had this all along if they would just understand what the energy is, but nope must use the meters to find where the current is when you have been told that current is not what your looking for and that is not what charges the battery.
Aaron has been at my shop many times I do not hide anything I would even hand him the screwdriver if he wanted it. Peter and I have worked together and He knows the circuits and so does Aaron no big secrete here just a simple machine. God have mercy you people are stuck in a big mouse trap here, the dam thing is right in front of you. See then you wonder why the inventor goes away one day this is why.Even ED said the meters were all built wrong and he had nothing like we have, just build the thing big you will see.
John B

[John_K]

John B, Aaron,

I was only just posting what I observed from the experiments I did and drew my own conclusions. I am quite happy to be corrected when I'm wrong and rethink what I saw as I was seeing it wrong.

Sorry if I came across a bit cocky and annoying. In future I'll think twice before posting in that tone again.

Yes, I should have been there and should have see the machine myself instead of presuming what I interpreted from the pictures and the posts of the people that were there.

I have the greatest respect for both of you and am not here to cause any trouble.

Aaron was right in that the answer I was looking for was assymetry (and non-linear) the way the neo and the ceramic are positioned.

I didn't know that John did not glue the magnets on, I falsely presumed that from the experiment I did that he must have.

I will go away and re-think and redo the experiments and continue to build as planned.

Once again, no offence was intended and I hope we can continue to work together.


John K.