Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[digitz]

Brent,
What is that you want to know, your very close to the answer. Each big coil took two buckets of wire #15 so that is a little over 200 lbs. Now since I have been working on something much different if memory serve me right one bucket of wire was 125 ohms not very much power at 12 volts, so 36V
Now you must also add in the two number 18 wires that was two buckets.
So yes you are very close. Now Back to the stubblefield coil that I point out. REDrichie, Yes that is what Ed was talking about. watch the video very careful. You may not need any battery, it's the switch that is important with that much wire. A reed will just blow up.
John

It's when he makes connections between different wires and that changes repulsion to attraction or differently said magnetism switches N-> S -> N -> S ....
As it's big on your machine, that's why you need something better than a reed.

Chris

[david.brown]

Bedini GT3

@ John B,

I will try to have a stab at it (not that I will be remotely close to the correct answer).

Does the iron wire generate more electricity than copper wire because the iron wire soaks up the magnetic streams around the coil and the copper wire does not, therefore there is a differential potential between the copper and the iron wire therefore causing a current flow.

So if we can switch the coil/short the coil very quickly to reduce the current flow we may be able to maintain a higher voltage or charge a capacitor.

That would explain why you are building a magnetic solid state relay.

Is this experiment therefore showing us that the zero point energy is around the coil and it is in the magnetic streams and that is why we must use iron to tap it?

David Brown (Belfast)

@all,
I want you guys to do a measurement, but first go look on youtube under air batteries you will run across LaserSaber showing how to make. That is not important thing even if it fun to do and will work in an emergency situation. Watch all the videos he has made under building a stubblefield coil, he has done some good work. Why he has stopped his research I have no Idea or the forum has just died for some reason. I was going to get in there and make some suggestions but I'm not going to deal with that right now.

This really applies to what your doing. The stubblefield coil is much more then people suspect as Peter and I have done years of research on Stubblefield. LidMotor has also reproduced this machine. I have built these coils but only used them for transmitting although I did see the effect many times with a compass.

I do not know what I was thinking at the time but I have run some simulations and have come to the conclusion that it can be done at a much bigger level however there is an art to building this coil. Very close to the monopole coil but with one iron wire.

The problem would be that the galvanic action takes over but that is not the important thing here. The most important thing is the Iron wire and what happens here. This is telling you something about where the Zero point energy is. This is the reason I'm doing this special switch as the output can be boosted to hundreds of volts to charge batteries. So just take the time to watch his experiment and see if you come to the same conclusion that I did. I think this will explain it. YouTube - Stubblefield Electromagnet Effects?
See if you see what I see................
John B

[redrichie]

DAvid thsi is kind of what I was thinking also. ED says more magnets in soft iron than in copper. Iron wire being insulated by the best insulator, air, would trap the magnets and the coil causes them to flow. The earths magnetic field would be all around the coil as it is with everything else. Just directing it in the right paths and trap perpetual currents.

John, Do the copper and iron wire utilize or conduct both pos and negative electricity, in opposite directions. Like you said ED wasnt constrained and used both forms of magneticity. Also is there a galvanic reaction if the Iron and Copper wires are not shorted to each other?

[minoly]

My son and I wound a couple of these up, put one in the ground (thanks again LaserSaber for your most excellent instruction video’s – Most needed by us:-). The galvanic reaction is definitely something to be concerned about, however. We could not get the coils to work w/o being moist/humid, which is what destroyed them in the end. Anyone get these to work w/o being moist or w/o being destroyed? there must be some technique we missed.

We still have the “air batteries”, we boiled our rods, one in baking soda/water and one in salt/water. Then we put them on the energizer to aline the molecules while drying – what a blast. We sealed them in packing tape; they are all dried out now but still put out enough to dimly light the Joule Ringer. We have never drawn energy from them for more than a couple of hours so who knows how long the magnesium will last. The one we buried in the ground was destroyed w/in 4 weeks.

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

@All,
Redrichie, Minoly.
Normally I would not say anything but I must go back to what happened when I was testing this Stubblefield coil. I do remember seeing a compass deflection with the connection of different wires. I do not know what I was thinking but at that point I was fascinated by transmitting signals in the ground.

Peter and I could find this signal in trees in the water system and also in the air and on rubber tires. We also could walk away from the shop into a sand pile and get all the music I was broadcasting. This is not the important thing here.
The important thing is one of the same type of wires running a motor which can be taped for power for charging batteries, it's the switching that must be right. One copper wire has a specific field magnetically and Iron another so you have a difference to play with. The gradient in one wire if switched right is all it takes to do this because the earth's magnetic field will supply it. Yes the monopole or the GT3 motors can be running this way with no input.
John B

[FRC]

John

Would this require a different circuit than your regular monopole circuit ? Such
as Lasersaber's Joule ringer circuit ?

FRC

[Turion]

Or the Bedini/Cole circuit

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

FRC,
No the Joule Ringer circuit is limited and that would just make an eternal light if you could supply the capacitor with an endless stream of charging current for that device that is why I mentioned the use of the Captret but sooner or later that runs dead also because the capacitor leaks to much even if it is micro amperes.

I do not know why LaserSaber does not talk about it that much as he has made a nice discovery and needs to understand why the effect is there. I have tried to get him to talk but about it as I have seen some of the same things. This brings me to Hendeshot had the same motor. Science is Science and you can't change that. I have given all the information on the GT3 motor just build it the way I did don't change anything. You will get it to work.

Now I see the direction I should go in and must follow it to the end, that will not be in my lifetime. Something is just pulling at me about Iron wire and I'm just trying to give everybody the head's up. Negative energy zero point it's all the same thing, so it requires something different to work with it. But what LaserSaber has done is not new, just different. The circuit for this is very critical as it must join Germanium to silicon devices.
John B

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Turion,
Now your thinking yes you could make an oscillator out of the bedini cole circuit by using a feedback winding. that circuit would be simple to do with small devices with a tri-filer coil.
John B

[John_K]

Stubblefield

John B,

From what I saw on the Lasersaber videos, because the soft Iron wire holds magnets easier than Copper there is a difference of magnetic potential which is why you see the compass move. That's how I see it.

I can also see that the axial motor on the GT3 could be made in the same way, just bigger. Lasersaber is only using one half of the Stubblefield coil to turn the Monopole rotor in the videos. With the right switching, like a full bipolar Bedini/Cole circuit, and NSNS magnets on the rotor I can see how this could self-run.


John K.

[BrentA929]

Wire is here!!!

John B,

As you can see we have received our wire today and want to start winding our coils, however we still want to tie up a couple of lose ends (questions) before we start.

I know the thread is heading in a different direction right now with exploring the Stubblefield coils and would be willing to PM you as to not disturb the flow if you think that would be better for the group or not.

Let me know your thoughts!


Thanks again, Brent

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Brent,
The thread is not heading in a different direction I'm here to help, looks like your ready to go. Nice wheel, looks like you have done a great job on that. I'm working on something else here but I'm here to help. I will start a new thread on that or have Aaron do it if I need to. I have always been exploring Stubblefield.

John

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

John K,
You could be right but that alone does not explain the Iron wire all by itself.
John

John B,

From what I saw on the Lasersaber videos, because the soft Iron wire holds magnets easier than Copper there is a difference of magnetic potential which is why you see the compass move. That's how I see it.

I can also see that the axial motor on the GT3 could be made in the same way, just bigger. Lasersaber is only using one half of the Stubblefield coil to turn the Monopole rotor in the videos. With the right switching, like a full bipolar Bedini/Cole circuit, and NSNS magnets on the rotor I can see how this could self-run.


John K.

[Les_K]

John B,

From what I saw on the Lasersaber videos, because the soft Iron wire holds magnets easier than Copper there is a difference of magnetic potential which is why you see the compass move. That's how I see it.

I can also see that the axial motor on the GT3 could be made in the same way, just bigger. Lasersaber is only using one half of the Stubblefield coil to turn the Monopole rotor in the videos. With the right switching, like a full bipolar Bedini/Cole circuit, and NSNS magnets on the rotor I can see how this could self-run.


John K.

John K,
you got me to thinking with this statement, thank you.
As I saw the videos I noticed that he was not only seeing voltage at the first stages of construction but current. This occupied my thought's as it appeared these wires were open circuit. open circuit always means to me no current.
Then I realized that there must be a chemical reaction taking place and with that reaction when you close the loop on one end current flows. When current is present magnetic flux is present and that explained everything. this is just what it says it is; a Battery. At that point I could not see where we were being led. you can do this with potatoes or any organic material with certian metals. in fact it was done on gilligans island...ha ha ha!
But then as I read more of what John B was saying I remembered something I read about a disagreement between Tesla and Einstien about where energy actually resided in the atom. Tesla said that it was in the vacuum beteen the electrons/protons etc. Certainly in lasersaber's video's they Chemically deteriated after time and that would explain that the power is coming from a chemical reaction, but is there more to it than that?
Just my thought's so far, I know I am way behind on all this so thanks for your patience as I learn and ponder...

Les

[John_Bedini]

Bedini GT3

Les K,
So lets get into this a little more as I see something very different that is taking place. Hendershot also had this motor and no galvanic action taking place. I also have seen this with very old coils LaserSaber also said that you could do it with insulated copper wire if you used two different sizes. ED L also said the same thing with Iron wire. you should John K please explain a little more also why you see it this way.
John B