Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[BrentA929]

Bfw

John B,

Thanks for clarifying that...

I ran my wheel for a little while today at 48V dump to the secondary batteries. It was dumping at almost every magnet pass. For sure it was dumping every 2 magnet passes. Would the regauging wheel section come into play at all with any of this? Still haven't started that section yet. Do those coils add to the filling of the capacitor when the bottom section is running? Or are they completedly isolated?


Love this stuff, Brent

@ All,
Thanks John K for posting that information as that is very important in the operation of the machine.
Not only the SG but the Ferris Wheel. The Ferris Wheel is more of a motor then the SG. The reason why is because of the switching.
@ Minoly,
The machine was Costly to build as it was a pro-type. The Comparator I always had and I did not want to use it, as the DC fet switch did what I wanted it to do.

@ Brent,
I used that DC switch because it was in the range to charge the batteries without over charging.
You guys are going to have to pick a DC switch that works with your batteries, because these DC switches do not all work the same. That is why I said a sidac, Low voltage should be chosen to fire the switch. If you watched the output meter you could see it discharging after each pulse as John K has point out to you. When I showed the wheel starting on it's own and where it stopped was the point the DC switch discharges. Then the wheel goes in the clockwise direction for running. In Other Words the wheel starts in reverse then slams agents the magnetic field and stops then it goes forward. After that every time a magnet passes the pole you get a discharge to the secondary batteries.
The important thing is the timing between the poles the motor part must be completely off , not one bit of leakage on that switch.
John B

[BrentA929]

Charging

John K,

Thanks for being patient with me...

To many times have I heard to build it like I say before you change anything. I am doing my best to do just that and want to understand JB's intent and thought process. Double battery voltage was stuck in my head and needed to undertand! It's starting to come together.


Thanks, Brent

@Brent,
The reason for 48v? John already said that is what 3 x 16v is. He also said it prevents the batteries from over-charging. It is a potential switch that will not work once the batteries are fully charged. No point running the machine after that as it is just wasting the energy.


John K.

[John_K]

Bfw

John K,

Thanks for being patient with me...

To many times have I heard to build it like I say before you change anything. I am doing my best to do just that and want to understand JB's intent and thought process. Double battery voltage was stuck in my head and needed to undertand! It's starting to come together.


Thanks, Brent

Brent,

John's intent is to have us figure it out, otherwise we would not learn and he wants us to learn. He wants us to succeed.

Sometimes it's easier not to ask how, but why? When you have figured out the why then you can think about the how.

Yes, you also need to know how things work. Like how batteries work and what they like and don't like. For example, why shouldn't you charge a battery higher than 16v? When you have the answer you just figure out how to do it.

You will get there, it does take time. Remember, John has been doing this full time for 40 years, for us it is a part time hobby. It's taken me 5 years part time to get this far and I feel like I'm only scratching the surface.

But the more I learn, the simpler it seems to be. You will kick yourself when you figure it out and realise it's not that hard. I do.


John K.

[Ecancanvas]

Light bulb moment.

“RING THE BELL TWICE” Ed’s saying.

NASA’s Moon Boots. PMH. Polarity change in an electro magnet.
The electro magnet on/off. (this is what we are told in schools). What we want is once the electro magnet is turned on, we hold this energy with no more power input, like in the PMH of Ed’s then we never let it go. Like moon boots we just want to use a small signal to switch polarity back and forth. All that is needed is a Small signal to switch the polarity. Makes push/pull effect on johns motor w/no back EMF. With running motor can run a generator coil that makes way more energy that the energy needed to run the push/pull switching system.

“RING THE BELL TWICE!”

[minoly]

“RING THE BELL TWICE” Ed’s saying.

NASA’s Moon Boots. PMH. Polarity change in an electro magnet.
The electro magnet on/off. (this is what we are told in schools). What we want is once the electro magnet is turned on, we hold this energy with no more power input, like in the PMH of Ed’s then we never let it go. Like moon boots we just want to use a small signal to switch polarity back and forth. All that is needed is a Small signal to switch the polarity. Makes push/pull effect on johns motor w/no back EMF. With running motor can run a generator coil that makes way more energy that the energy needed to run the push/pull switching system.

“RING THE BELL TWICE!”

DVD 23 reveals more...

Patrick

[minoly]

Brent you say that your bobbin is very close to mine is that correct.

THE LARGE COIL,
Coil filled to almost 7/8 of the diameter with four wires Depending if your a sloppy winder like me. Holding 4 wires together as it does not make a difference.

I have chosen 2 # 15 wires at 4000 feet, now one wire is = to 12.736 ohms and two together = 6.386 Ohms.

Now, I have two # 18 wires at 4000 feet that = 25.54 Ohms from one wire. or two together at 12.77 Ohms.

Now I have two # 15 wires together at 6.386 Ohms
and two # 18 wires together at 12.77 ohms

If I use 1/X for the first number ( 6.386 ohms ) 1/X = 0.1565
if I take the second number (12.77 ohms) 1/X = 0.0783

Adding them together you get .23480 1/X = 4.258 Ohms for the big coil if all wires are tied together.

The big coil =, if you tie all wires together 4.2 OHMS

Outside coils #15 wire I have chosen 2000 feet = 6.368 Ohms each coil Can't Change that.

Now if I add all the coils together for a total I get this.
4.2, 1/x = .2348
3.1841/x = .3140

Adding them together is .5489 1/X = 1.82 Ohms Total all coils together.

So the numbers are,big coil is Equal to 6.368 Ohms. Or if you tie all wires together 4.2 Ohms.

Slave coils X 2 ( outer Coils) 3.184 Ohms 2000 Ft #15 wire.

This is as close as I can get without taking the machine apart according to Rick's windings. I will bet this works just fine on that machine.
When all coils are added together you will have 1.82 Ohms or very close to that.
Oh I forgot to say if your duty cycle is correct with the timing you will have about 1.5 amps input current with that switch.

Thanks for catching that Wrench76

John B

I think this has some relation to what John notes above....

Here is my experiment and why I think the radiant does not appear until after we open(turn off) the switch(transistor).

"http://youtu.be/EC6ylSNvtwc"

I have slowed the “event” down by eliminating the transistor and manually closing and opening the switch.

1 coil, diode, battery, cap
Hook up one side of the coil to the positive of the battery, one side of the cap, negative lead to multimeter.

2. Twist off the other side of the coil to the side of the diode that does not have the gray band

3. Connect the side of the diode that has the gray band to the other side of the cap and to the + on the multimeter.

4. We can now use our fingers to connect the coil/diode to the negative terminal and then release.

It is only upon the open of the switch (transistor turning off) that I am able to see the energy appear in my capacitor.

Please let me know what I am doing wrong, or how I can modify my experiment to show. What you say that the radiant appears when the transistor turns on.

Further thoughts… after I made the video, I conducted more experiments with different size coils. I found, using much larger 18 gauge coils, that if I leave the switch closed too long, my voltage spikes are lower. Too much heat in the coil, oversaturation takes away from the radiant event? More experiments using a PWM are warranted in this area. I think this is directly related to the duty cycle on the solid state as well as the 3GT coils. I do not believe one duty cycle fits all coils nor do I believe one amp draw fits all coil sizes. Among many other things, I believe we also have to tune to the compression of the Bloch Wall.

Please let me know if any of you think I am way off base, and/or if there are ways I can modify or do completely different experiments to come to a more clear understanding.
These are my own conclusions and do not represent any authority on the subject.
Cheers,
Patrick

[Ecancanvas]

Thanks Minoly

Good idea, just purchased #23
ED

[John_Bedini]

I made mention of the Coral Castle

@all,
I thought that I would want you guys to watch this wmv that David Luke made for me. It was before I showed the big Ferris Wheel SG3 machine.Now some of you know that I made mention of the Coral Castle. It is not in any special order as I put it together.

I asked David to go there and take measurements for me of certain things, you will see. Well David basically takes over the place. Why I'm posting this because I want you to have every bit of information on what could be happening to magnetic fields in the machine. Watch what the wheel can do and then think about it. Also look at the Horseshoe
Magnet with open eyes.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/CoralCastle.wmv
John B

[blackchisel97]

@all,
I thought that I would want you guys to watch this wmv that David Luke made for me. It was before I showed the big Ferris Wheel SG3 machine.Now some of you know that I made mention of the Coral Castle. It is not in any special order as I put it together.

I asked David to go there and take measurements for me of certain things, you will see. Well David basically takes over the place. Why I'm posting this because I want you to have every bit of information on what could be happening to magnetic fields in the machine. Watch what the wheel can do and then think about it. Also look at the Horseshoe
Magnet with open eyes.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/CoralCastle.wmv
John B

Thank you for sharing this video John Configuration of magnet stacks puzzles me for a long time. If they're not appear to be the super poles than it is possible that each stack contains mixed poles, instead of just one but... South seems to be well defined by tester unlike the opposite . What about the holes and (iron)wire connecting horseshoe? (I never noticed it before).

Vtech

[Les_K]

Sidac

@ All,
You guys are smart here and should understand what I'm saying. The capacitor just charges to about 48 volts and the fet goes into negative breakdown and the energy is delivered to the secondary batteries as the coils fire. Come on guys the Sidac does this easy with an opto fet dc switch. no real power required.
John B

Not so smart as this guy....

Ignition coil using SIDAC triggers - YouTube

Les

[Stephen Brown]

@all,
Why I'm posting this because I want you to have every bit of information on what could be happening to magnetic fields in the machine. Watch what the wheel can do and then think about it. Also look at the Horseshoe
Magnet with open eyes.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/CoralCastle.wmv
John B

John:
Amazing video!
Was Ed using the iron above to shape the magnetic field so that his magneto would only be using North poles?
I know the story of Henry Ford, saying that he could run his Model T on just "Cow Magnets" and nothing else.
Do we have a north pole attraction motor here?
Would you give us your conclusions?
Or, at least ask another question to get us down the road.
Stephen

[minoly]

Yes - ditto, thanks for sharing that WMV John B.

horseshoe magnetic manipulation:

Edward Leedskalnin field manipulation - YouTube

lots of fun playing with one of those little magnets around our 7' Ferris Wheel also.

On the Ferris Wheel the souths are being manipulated in between the sharp norths (the magnets pointing outward are the sharp north). the field in between each magnet on the wheel is a strong south.
this is what I am thinking so far... anyone care to elaborate more on the why...
Patrick

[john_g]

Thought this maybe on topic, a link to some info on horseshoe magnets as used on the Testatika, and charging a cap between the poles.

Testatika Linden Experiment

Also this links into Meyers work, who used horseshoe magnets, although in both cases the magnets were wire wrapped, in Meyers case with Iron wire. Maybe this indirectly helps solving this puzzle?

[BrentA929]

Coral Castle

Oh yeah!!!

Going to start getting good again! Can't wait for the discussions on this...

BTW, I never could picture the super poles with this arrangement. It was almost like they were forced together on the sides of the magnets. I wonder if Jetijs has seen this effect on his build...post 220.

Thanks John B!


Good stuff,

Brent

@all,
I thought that I would want you guys to watch this wmv that David Luke made for me. It was before I showed the big Ferris Wheel SG3 machine.Now some of you know that I made mention of the Coral Castle. It is not in any special order as I put it together.

I asked David to go there and take measurements for me of certain things, you will see. Well David basically takes over the place. Why I'm posting this because I want you to have every bit of information on what could be happening to magnetic fields in the machine. Watch what the wheel can do and then think about it. Also look at the Horseshoe
Magnet with open eyes.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/CoralCastle.wmv
John B

[John_Bedini]

I missed an important part

@ ALL,
Ok, I missed an important part some how in the video, I thought about this and did another video on this one part with the horseshoe magnet. In the best quality I could do. It may take some time to load. Watch the magnetic indicator. Also notice the magnet is shorted out with a steel wire through the holes. I know there will be allot of questions.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/Magnetcc.wmv Ed had a generator that did not move which supplied electricity that gave him light at night, This itam was never found anywhere. It is still there among the junk.....

John B