Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[minoly]

Sweet Memories

I like the monopole theory.

are those weld marks I see, pounded forced metal?
kind of like what Floyd Sweet was doing with his magnets?

Patrick

I have to admit, the timing of this is uncanny...



Sweet Memories

I'm still getting it :-)


PS what-cha-think? Ed Leedskalnin Coral Castle Flywheel Secret Revealed - YouTube

[Rubberband]

Davis's Manual of Magnetism

John B,

I think that Ed had a PMH placed where you see the block of wood with the bolts in it at the back of the wheel. He would turn the wheel until the PMH was "energized" which gave him a generator that did not have to move once energized.

My guess is that the horseshoe magnet on the back wall was part of the PMH and he used iron wire to light his lights at night. To switch off the light, just break the connection to the PMH. To create light, connect the wires and give the wheel a spin.

So he had a permanent magnet holder that he could use to generate "electricity", although we know he called this "magnetic current". Straight out of his book from 1945.

So what's this got to do with your Ferris wheel? Ed's wheel has a metal plate on the bottom which is shorting out the horseshoe magnets and shaping the fields - just like the hub motor on the Ferris wheel, except you are using electromagnets instead of permanent magnets like Ed was doing. You are using the same coils that are creating the PMH on the hub motor, that are also collecting the energy and sending back to the primary battery. So the hub motor is really just an "electromagnetic" version of Ed's wheel.

Ed also has the top of the horseshoe magnets insulated from the metal flywheel on the top with concrete so the magnets aren't shorted out. The flywheel on the top has bolts going through it which bolt to the bottom metal plate to keep it all together.

I think the clover shape iron on top of the flywheel is to further shape the fields, not sure exactly how yet.

Where's the North pole? I think over time the magnets were conditioned by the PMH which gives the impression that there are no North poles on the magnetic indicator, even though they are there and measurable with the gauss meters and David does show that they attract and repel just like a normal North pole. I would guess that they are some type of scalar North that the magnetic indicator can't pick up.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Thanks for sharing.


John K.

I don't know if? Have you seen page 65 figure 41 of Davis's book,, just something different in line about your thoughts. Turning on and off of a pole....
And also,.. maybe some of this....Model T Magnetic Modification does ED L's flywheel still have these magnets in it?..... sorry, answered my own question about the flywheel...since ED's device had a starter ring mounted to hold things together, it must have been from a 1919 year or later model and would not have had the magnets made into it..

[Les_K]

@ ALL,
Ok, I missed an important part some how in the video, I thought about this and did another video on this one part with the horseshoe magnet. In the best quality I could do. It may take some time to load. Watch the magnetic indicator. Also notice the magnet is shorted out with a steel wire through the holes. I know there will be allot of questions.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/Magnetcc.wmv Ed had a generator that did not move which supplied electricity that gave him light at night, This itam was never found anywhere. It is still there among the junk.....

John B

John,
according to ED, The north and south magnets run against each other. our instruments are designed to compensate for this(or in fact obviously count on it). If you had a truly north pole, one that had no south magnets running against it, I do not think our regular instruments of measurement would pick it up. But it would very definitly repel a north pole of magnets. So to me the question is how did ED do that? Remove the south magnets so the north were all running by themselves? If he was able to seperate those south running magnets like that wouldn't they run through the universe and back to find their happy place again?

Les

[minoly]

I like the monopole theory.

are those weld marks I see, pounded forced metal?
kind of like what Floyd Sweet was doing with his magnets?

Patrick

this vid only applies to my own posts, it is not a comment on what anyone else has noted:

Magnetic Currents - a method for visualization - YouTube

as always,
Patrick

[mklimesh]

That was nice visualization, Thanks Patrick (+_+)

Mike Klimesh

this vid only applies to my own posts, it is not a comment on what anyone else has noted:

Magnetic Currents - a method for visualization - YouTube

as always,
Patrick

[john_g]

look at the horseshoe magnet with open eyes

Hi

JB said “look at the horseshoe magnet with open eyes”. I wondered if it is relevant the way horseshoe magnets are made?

As I understand it, because of manufacturing difficulties, to magnetize the horseshoe, a coil is placed around each leg of the horseshoe. When the coils are energized, 2 magnets are formed, one on each leg. Therefore the material structure under the magnetizing coil area has been brutality realigned but not so the material in the curved area.

Regards

John

[John_K]

Ed's Wheel

Ed had a big Iron bar there from what David said, but we will be able to Ask him soon. The unit Ed had was in his room. The wheel uses that type of arrangement on the Axial Motor but re-gauges in-between. Dave said something else was mounted on the other side. Your talking about the clover leaf at the top, that could be the north field I did not try that but I could to see where the pole ends up. I did have Dave check for that but it did not indicate that. I should have asked him today but I forgot and got busy. Yes they do attract like normal poles. I do not think the electronic detector can measure a monopole. Ed was good at making them. Dave said he tried to follow the pipes in the walls but could not see where they ended up. I will ask him the questions when he calls back. He also said the guide knew more then he was telling.
John

Thanks John, I understand about the Iron bar. I remember (thanks EN!) the drawing you posted a long time back.

As for the monopole, something in Ed's book had me thinking:

"When you are making a magnet pole in the welding rod use U shape magnet. South pole magnet to make North pole magnet in the rod and use U shape North Pole magnet to make South Pole magnet in the rod. You can drag the magnet over the rod from end to end, but never stop in middle.
If you stop in middle there will be an extra pole so it will disturb the magnet's circulation. Use iron filings to test the rod if there is any magnets in the middle, and if there is the filings will cling to it. Then drag the permanent magnet over the rod and it will take it out."


John K.

[Les_K]

Thanks John, I understand about the Iron bar. I remember (thanks EN!) the drawing you posted a long time back.

As for the monopole, something in Ed's book had me thinking:

"When you are making a magnet pole in the welding rod use U shape magnet. South pole magnet to make North pole magnet in the rod and use U shape North Pole magnet to make South Pole magnet in the rod. You can drag the magnet over the rod from end to end, but never stop in middle.
If you stop in middle there will be an extra pole so it will disturb the magnet's circulation. Use iron filings to test the rod if there is any magnets in the middle, and if there is the filings will cling to it. Then drag the permanent magnet over the rod and it will take it out."


John K.

Precisly why I posted that it would have been nice if he had had a chance to measure down the side of the horshoe in the video. At first I thought perhaps the north had been moved down the side. But then after thinking about this I realized maybe something else was going on. As we recall, the magnets run against each other. looking at this on page 5.
....And that the streams of individual magnets are running one kind of magnets against the other kind.....
Consider what would happen if you were to remove one of the streams...Say south?
Wouldn't that leave a north running stream. and would't that have a reaction to another magnetic pole but not our instruments?

I don't know which it would be, moving the north magnet down the side or removing the stream.

Les

[Les_K]

Precisly why I posted that it would have been nice if he had had a chance to measure down the side of the horshoe in the video. At first I thought perhaps the north had been moved down the side. But then after thinking about this I realized maybe something else was going on. As we recall, the magnets run against each other. looking at this on page 5.
....And that the streams of individual magnets are running one kind of magnets against the other kind.....
Consider what would happen if you were to remove one of the streams...Say south?
Wouldn't that leave a north running stream. and would't that have a reaction to another magnetic pole but not our instruments?

I don't know which it would be, moving the north magnet down the side or removing the stream.

Les

ooops, I forgot to add one last thing to that.
page 37.
" I have a generator that generates currents on a small scale from the air without using any magnets around it."

given everything else he just taught us in the book What's up with that?
No magnets?

Les

[minoly]

SS relay

getting my cap dump ready for our 7'GT build
Bedini Energizer SS SSG with cap dump - YouTube

using the K08A - one wire in, one wire out.
it would not work on the breakdown so my box has a little more inside, I used something similar to the schematic i posted on the last page here.
I'm running it on our SS SSG to see how it goes...
Patrick

[Stephen Brown]

getting my cap dump ready for our 7'GT build
Bedini Energizer SS SSG with cap dump - YouTube

using the K08A - one wire in, one wire out.
it would not work on the breakdown so my box has a little more inside, I used something similar to the schematic i posted on the last page here.
I'm running it on our SS SSG to see how it goes...
Patrick

Patrick, (John or Chuck)
My K12A wouldn't work in breakdown mode either.
Even over 100 volts.
Not quite sure what was wrong. Maybe there's not a FET in there.

Maybe John or Chuck could tell us exactly which Douglas Randall Relay is being shown in the little box? K12B?

I'm going to set my system up like yours since the MJLs get too hot and seem to use up too much energy when running/dumping fast. Putting heat dissipation on them seems counterproductive.
I also tried running several MJLs in parallel. Still too much heat.

On my SS SSG, I've managed to get 4 separate coils running in series with one trigger, confirming the expandability of your setup. (4 X 18g X 150' each)
All it took was a jumper wire from the base of the trigger MJL, to the base of one slave on the added coil, and the rest of the circuits on the added coil would run. No need for a darlington to enhance the trigger signal on the separate coil.

Will post as soon as I get back from an out of town visit to see my sister.
Cheers to you all and your good works.
Stephen

[Stephen Brown]

P.S.
I love hearing about Ed and his mysterious wheel.
Keep it coming John.
Ideally I would like to understand the mystery before I get a chance to ask Ed himself.
But at least we know - All will be answered in time???

[John_Bedini]

Hfs33

P.S.
I love hearing about Ed and his mysterious wheel.
Keep it coming John.
Ideally I would like to understand the mystery before I get a chance to ask Ed himself.
But at least we know - All will be answered in time???

Stephen
I used a HFS33 solid state relay.
John

[minoly]

Stephen
I used a HFS33 solid state relay.
John

Ok, I'll ask...
the only reference I find with that part number is a HongFa SSR.
I can not find a Douglas Randall Relay with that part number.
is anyone else able to find it?
Thanks,
Patrick

[alvarohn]

Hfs33

Hi Patrick!!

isn't this one?

SOLID STATE RELAY-HFS33|MOSFET output|DC control|Low on-state resistance|Photo isolation|2500V dielectric strength|Environmental friendly product (RoHS compliant)

can any one tell me how to do this with single parts? to make a cap dump at 14 volts or so?

Yesterday I came from work and my mechanical cap dump was destroyed the pulley was all break and the gear disk also, lol.

I have tryed the SCR cap dump with out luck my SCR always get latched, and I have also tryed that inverted NPN cap dump that works!! but it does not dump all the cap intro the batt, just a little.

best!!

Alvaro

Ok, I'll ask...
the only reference I find with that part number is a HongFa SSR.
I can not find a Douglas Randall Relay with that part number.
is anyone else able to find it?
Thanks,
Patrick