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Aussie have you ever even built the very basic SSG monopole? Stop berating members here. Go buy the $300 kit from Johns site. User Minoly showed you can make a selfrunner out of that small device. You should probably start there since you are AFRAID to believe the good members of this forum. Dont you think you should start with a basic system, actually learn the nuances of a basic Bedini system (Good luck with that on its own) before you spend $10000 bucks on something, hose it all up , and then try to discredit people because YOU screwed up the build, or the circuits. Trust me, just the single transistor circuit will keep you occupied for a while, much less a 80 transistor behemoth. I dont care if the system only put out .1V over the input battery, and kept itself running for over the course of a month!!!! If you did that you just changed the world. PERIOD. That is supposed to be impossible. Stop *****ing because you dont think its enough output. Stop posting the same garbage in 5 different threads. SERIOUSLY. Someone already said it. This may not be the forum for you.
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Why are you attacking someone who is asking a basic basic question???
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Aussie have you ever even built the very basic SSG monopole? Yep!
Stop berating members here. Go buy the $300 kit from Johns site.
I have bought kits from Rick in the past and have no problem with them.
User Minoly showed you can make a selfrunner out of that small device. You should probably start there since you are AFRAID to believe the good members of this forum.
I have built lots of toys, if I was afraid I wouldn't be here, I am asking very basic questions..
Dont you think you should start with a basic system, actually learn the nuances of a basic Bedini system (Good luck with that on its own)
As I said yes I have built them and like what I see.
before you spend $10000 bucks on something, hose it all up , and then try to discredit people because YOU screwed up the build, or the circuits.
Where do you guys get this s h i t from, NO I am not out to get you. geesh!
Could it be possible that I just want to build one and I am asking for advice?
Trust me, just the single transistor circuit will keep you occupied for a while, much less a 80 transistor behemoth. I dont care if the system only put out .1V over the input battery, and kept itself running for over the course of a month!!!! If you did that you just changed the world. PERIOD. That is supposed to be impossible.
You must be over the moon! all your hopes and dreams have come true already, I on the other hand would like to post pone the party until we can power the party via the machine. Please have some understanding that other people desire more than just toys.
Stop *****ing because you dont think its enough output. Stop posting the same garbage in 5 different threads. SERIOUSLY.
There is no *****ing about output going on here, if you READ my posts I have praised Bits for his 60-120watts achievement. I just wanted some facts before I purchase a $10000 toy/energizer.
Someone already said it. This may not be the forum for you.
It's funny I have had many PM's from people saying dont waste your breath that bedini crowd are all just hot air and they won't tell you zip. I have defended you guys on each occasion because I don't want third hand opinions I want the info from the guys selling me the product.
So ask yourself why are you trying to get rid of a person with an electrical background, who has a genuine interest, who is only asking the most basic questions???
I am not here to bash I am here to get the basic answers so we can move this thing from just a trickle to a full flood - in both energy output and people buying the kits from Rick.
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Fair enough. I only ask if youve bought the kits then why all the questions? You should have the data in front of you to build larger.Comment
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Aussie, the kit is an experimenters kit, Jeff has done hard work in R and D to get to where he is at with it, you cant expect any thing if you dont want to experiment and find answers, if this is the case then please dont get under any ones skin, there is no advertisement stating the coils kits run your house for FREE.Originally posted by aussieaussieaussie View Post
Just put your ideas /Q's in perspective,. the input and out puts from JEFF are stated already the kit is an experimenters kit. UNDERSTAND? Thus to get the answers you require, YOU have to contribute, if you cant technically with Jeff then i dont know what it is you expect.
No one is asking you to spend 10K, R. and D takes more then that, there are no silver spoons here mate.
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Aussie, the kit is an experimenters kit, Jeff has done hard work in R and D to get to where he is at with it, you cant expect any thing if you dont want to experiment and find answers, if this is the case then please dont get under any ones skin, there is no advertisement stating the coils kits run your house for FREE.
I never said I didn't want to experiment and build a device, and I know that the kits are experimental and hold no guarantees. Stop making assumptions Ash....
Just put your ideas /Q's in perspective,. the input and out puts from JEFF are stated already the kit is an experimenters kit. UNDERSTAND? Thus to get the answers you require, YOU have to contribute, if you cant technically with Jeff then i dont know what it is you expect.
Check out the Conference thread and you will see that this is all I am after, definitive data on the big kits at this time. I am not asking hard questions. I am making it bloody easy and jumping through any hoops presented to me to leap through.
No one is asking you to spend 10K, R. and D takes more then that, there are no silver spoons here mate.
No one is asking me to spend, I want to! When these 10 coil kits first came out - I almost bought one! But I sat back and said hey I don't want any more toys. I am not going to buy another kit until someone makes a 10 coil self run.
When they definitively prove that there is excess energy been created then I will happily spend the money and start investigating further.
So far bits is the only one stepping forward claiming a self runner, so I am just asking him to confirm his conclusions with a little data.
This whole been aloof with figures and attacking me is not doing this machine any good. I am here to clear the air, state the results and hopefully get more people building these machines. I never asked for a silver spoon feeding - you guys are all so jaded by douches on this forum that you scare away anybody normal with your 'Faith' based technology comments... geez.
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Ozy, either you buy a kit and experiment and contribute or dont waste our time mate , Jeff of JB or John K and myself dont need to answer your Q's they are self evident Sorry mate, waste your own time, if you want to help, help. If you dont want to spend any thing and help, dont expect a silver spoon here.
No one said the kit was a toy BUDDY. So dont talk BS. spend half your time doing R and D you might get some where. WE HAVE PAID OUR DUES MATE. What have you done?
Tell your mates.
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Looking for answers! Not more people telling me I don't deserve the answers...
Hi Ash,
You get angry quicker then the rest. You should really concentrate on defending the orbo technology - because that is a full time job!
No honestly, look forward to your results... another two week delay is it?
Your fetish for silver spoons is starting to concern me, but none the less, what is your problem with asking questions?
I have built the smaller kits, I like what I see, but like any normal clear thinking individual I thought I might just wait until someone else confirms that the 10 coil is a winner before I dish out $$$.
How do I know if someone else has built one and confirmed it? I ask questions!
I would prefer an independent tester, but alas, they are nowhere to be seen - but I do have a bedini insider called bits who has claimed he's done it - so what do I do I ask bits about his machine.
And all hell breaks loose!
No BS here Ash, just the facts and nothing but the facts. Just trying to get to the bottom of this. I want to know where to invest my money for R&D... Bedini, Orbo, HHO????
You claim the answers to my questions are self evident? Well as a teacher and the head of a university - why don't you summarize them for me?
Seems the class is a little confused on the subject....
Ozy
P.S. You have paid your dues?
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My friend you dont know what the orbo is, unless your there on the official forum. What a useless comment you have made about delays you know nothing about. Thats really the caliber of your posts.USELESS.
Your out of your league with the Bedini technology too.Bits is a respected and trusted member here, you should do your own testing. Bar that nothing you say has helped any one here, your not worth my time. The rest of what you says has as much relevance.
I wont be answering your posts in future. Have fun, i am sure others will also let you know how productive your posts are in future.
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Round and round we go, where free energy went nobody knows!
Thanks Ash for yet another useless post, I suggest that if you don't have any answers - maybe you shouldn't post a reply to my questions?
My attempt to get clarification from people who have made claims / strong recommendations towards the large bedini machines and their self running abilities is USELESS???? What kind of university are you running???
This is the first step for anyone wishing to invest money in this research!
Otherwise my friend you are running a ministry not a university!
I know Bits, Rick & John are well respected, thats why I am asking them these questions and not you.
I wait with baited breath with the Orbo, I hope you clear the air (For good or bad) on that one.
Ozy
Good luck with the 'Faith' based technologies and your ministry...Comment
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Can I just say that I feel there is so much love on this forum .... LOL... Marvelous entertainment.... lmao
Ausi...
Lots of threads have very interesting perspectives on a pretty new and relatively undefined technology.... at this point, its just interesting to build a basic ssg, work out how to enhance it .. get some creative juices flowing... hell I might even flatter myself that I could contribute..... Your original question seemed reasonable to me... but its sort of self evident that if a 10,20,30 ... Xn coiler (or watever) produced significant OU and was easy to replicate, it would be...why should anyone just give that away.
I am just enjoying turning my office into a lab again.. havnt played with a soldering iron or scope for more than 10 years .. forgot what fun it is !!Comment
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@Faramog,
Can I just say that I feel there is so much love on this forum .... LOL... Marvelous entertainment.... lmao
Glad your having fun!
Ausi...
Lots of threads have very interesting perspectives on a pretty new and relatively undefined technology.... at this point, its just interesting to build a basic ssg, work out how to enhance it .. get some creative juices flowing... hell I might even flatter myself that I could contribute.....
Couldn't agree more, it's been fun building the kits so far and the results look promising!
Your original question seemed reasonable to me...
Thanks! I thought so...
but its sort of self evident that if a 10,20,30 ... Xn coiler (or watever) produced significant OU and was easy to replicate, it would be...why should anyone just give that away.
They would give it away for many reasons, for humanity sake, because nobody would ever let them sell a complete machine. etc
Don't give up on people, not everyone in this world is selfish - Be Optimistic!
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