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[MonsieurM]

one way to know is to build a Pyramid container with magnetite as its walls ....clay to hold the shape while it is heated

then youcan test with whatever you place within it

[Allwest]

My latest cell using the Electric Grease I mention before:

Crystal Battery 27a - YouTube

Crystal Battery 27b - YouTube

Fausto.

Fausto,

Try this product on top of your cell
Dry Out® Dehumidifier in Sacramento | sacbee.com

It collects water from the air and will keep your cells damp, or it has mine for over a month

Might be a time saver for you

Also, on the dielectric grease, after applying the grease to mag, I have rolled it in quartz dust, seems to add more power

Good luck to all

[NickZ]

Guys:
I didn't have any more conductive or dielectric grease, so, I tried an ointment that is similar to Vicks vapor rub, that I had on hand. I rubbed it on the inside of one of my best cells, which I had emptied the electrolyte out of, sanded the aluminum can on the inside, washed it out and filled it back up with the same carbon/sand/regular salt as the electrolyte.
At first my readings were 100mAs (highest reading yet), but it then started going down. Although after lighting an led all night long on an oscillator it is still going well, (Check the picture below). Time will tell.
It appears that this grease also works, so far, even if it does not conduct electricity, which it did not, at all. Somehow the ions are still able to do their job, and provide an output.
I also used some Silica gel in the electrolyte mix this time. I'll try the quartz on the grease sometime, to see what happens. My strongest cell are the ones that had not the beach sand, but pulverized quarts points, layered in with the carbon electrolyte. No paper or any other separator was used, just carbon, and a carbon rod as the positive rail.
The led was pretty bright on the cell (below) but as usual the camera flash eats up most of the light output.


NickZ

[cgalvisardila]

To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon, i want to take some free energy to the jungle to the kofan indian tribes that healed my crazy ass so they can stop spending the little money they make on gasoline for their inefficient generators... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

[griplets]

To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

Ditto! It does feel a bit like play school...

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

The REAL thing

Hi, I think it will be my last post on this tread as I understood all by myself what this is all about and some folks (too many) are not serious at all about THIS reality (what the REAL energy is). Let me explain to all of you. Based on the lines of Tesla's work: The crystal battery is a NEGATIVE TO POSITIVE energy converter and that's it!! You cannot power leds or anything else with it. It's not a battery. It's just a sitting potential. Just like an antenna (+) and the ground (-). You need a big potential and big resistance. Put them in series to have like 500v. It's the antenna of your power receiver. Take DEAD lead-acid batteries for exemple, they still have some potential because they are sulfated ( lead sulfate/sulfide/galena/semi-conductor/ion bridge) and they act the same as the crystal battery. To have big power, you have to create a switching device that will produce radiant pulses (radiant/negative energy). This energy will have a conversion rate (COP) from the input battery (GOOD, charged) to the output battery (GOOD, charged) of .95 to 1 if your circuit is good enough. The MAGIC PART is your converter: It will convert the radiant negative to radiant positive in COP's of 2 to infinite. BAD batteries put in series and then connected in parrallel with the GOOD charging battery will act as the antenna and all the voltage potential from the converter is creating dipoles. Many many sets of dipoles that will SUCK the energy into the charging (good) battery. The radiant impulse triggers the vaccum imput to the system. Nothing more to say about all this. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE GUYS!!!!!!!!

[Allwest]

To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon, i want to take some free energy to the jungle to the kofan indian tribes that healed my crazy ass so they can stop spending the little money they make on gasoline for their inefficient generators... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

cgalvisardila,

Maybe it would be a very nice thing to grow your own-renewable energy (in a far off place like the jungle) like peanut butter and jelly electric cells

Hmmm....... No? Did not think so, so here you go, you can now go $BUY$ some FREE energy

Energy From Aluminum - YouTube

Please let us know how the jungle is and the aluminum trees are doing


Best of luck

[NickZ]

Guys:
I think that it would be safe to assume that we would all like to see John back. As we are like a team without a captain, now. But he has given us what he had to offer, so far, which is more than enough to follow up on it, and create something to share, and develop.
The "getting there" is as important as the end product, as this is all about having some fun, also, as these cells will not ever "save the world".
If you are expecting that these cells will start or run your car, or totally light your house, you may be even more disappointed. Like expecting that an AA battery is going output enough to allow you to get off the grid.
We have been going at a slower pace lately, as it seams things are more complicated than they first appear. This is where we can all help with our contributions, and experiments.
Most of the old timers here in this thread have hung in there because this project is not so easy to do, as practically no one has come up with a perpetual output cell that doesn't break down in time, and that can produce a USEFUL output for some time.
I expect the best is yet to come, for those that hang in there. And, for those that don't, thanks for what you have given us... and good luck in your ventures.

NickZ

[MonsieurM]

the following might also inspire you

Cheap Fuel Cells with Salt Water Electrolyte to Commercialise in Japan

Cheap Fuel Cells with Salt Water Electrolyte to Commercialise in Japan

30 Mar 2012



Japan’s Tohoku University has developed a magnesium powered cell that uses salt water as an electrolyte. Magnesium is an abundant and cost-effective resource, brine is obviously even more so. Magnesium has been considered before but has suffered from problems of being easily burned and being dissolved by its electrolyte; Tohoku University claim to have solved such issues by using flame retardant magnesium developed under a separate research project by the National Institute of Advanced Industrial Science and Technology.

The technology will be able to compete with conventional batteries in a number of applications, including for use in electric vehicles. Furukawa Battery Company is working with the University as a cooperative development partner in the battery manufacturing industry; it will commercialise the product within the year at a target price of half that of an equivalent lead–acid battery.

Tohoku University also hopes that its cell will find application in the UPS and emergency power niches – “It is now possible to install an inexpensive emergency power source at each house” commented project developer Professor Ohama.

The electrolyte and anode of metal air fuel cells (MAFC) require periodic replacement due to corrosion which occurs as the system generates hydrogen ions, and electricity. Therefore this technology differs from conventional fuel cells which can operate indefinitely as long as a source of fuel is available.

[cgalvisardila]

cgalvisardila,

Maybe it would be a very nice thing to grow your own-renewable energy (in a far off place like the jungle) like peanut butter and jelly electric cells

Hmmm....... No? Did not think so, so here you go, you can now go $BUY$ some FREE energy

Energy From Aluminum - YouTube

Please let us know how the jungle is and the aluminum trees are doing


Best of luck

Allwest, i appreciate your input... not so much your cynicism. its easier to find aluminum in the jungle than peanut butter and jelly believe it or not, you should visit a jungle tribe sometime before talking crap about it. the trees can make charcoal, thus some carbon for an electrolyte mix, and (this is no surprise to anyone)... there's a LOT of water, it is possible to build cells out there. so thanks very much for the video, would be interesting to see if it makes it to the market, would be a great donation for them and, maybe we should see if we can figure out how it works.... as for your cynicism take it somewhere else please, we're here to help each other, at least that's why I'm here and i know for sure the majority of people here are as well. cheers

[cgalvisardila]

i wonder what are the chemicals they use in the cell.... any ideas? looks like its pretty serious if it can run a fan and a light bulb like that, with only 10 aluminum plates

Energy From Aluminum - YouTube

[NickZ]

@ MonsieurM:
Thanks for the link, very interesting about the magnesium/salt water cells.
Here is the enlarged picture of the mag crystal cluster:

[Allwest]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgalvisardila View Post
To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon, i want to take some free energy to the jungle to the kofan indian tribes that healed my crazy ass so they can stop spending the little money they make on gasoline for their inefficient generators... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

cgalvisardila,

Cynicism? what do you think your comment was?

I can see that John and chuck have put allot of time, effort and money into this R&D, which will need to be recouped

Do you think they are just in it for a giveaway? think again (but any information they can share is appreciated)

You just slammed everyone else here, as not relevant and wasting your time

I would encourage everyone attending here to post and share, even the cell failures teach us something of value

Did you ever think that a chili powder cell would give 1.6 volts and over 500Ma ?

Another spice I tried was ground Cloves, this gave 1.88 volts and over 600 Ma

The size of material used was 1/8 the size that John uses

I can laugh at the use of spices for power cells, but you can not scoff at the power results

So please do not preach at me

Also plengo just shared some valuable information on his cells he is creating, this is appreciated

Good luck

[cgalvisardila]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgalvisardila View Post
To john bedini and chuck, hi guys, i hope you're doing well, please come back soon, we really miss your input... there's still too much talk about table salt and peanut butter and jelly cells here... too much talk about micro amps and how amazing it is that elmers glue can make tiny power.... i want to get some AMPS soon, some people here seem to be taking this as a science fair hobby project, not me i have a plan of moving to the woods and one day get off the grid and i want that day to come soon, i want to take some free energy to the jungle to the kofan indian tribes that healed my crazy ass so they can stop spending the little money they make on gasoline for their inefficient generators... were facing a serious problem very soon, its not time to be playing around... please i for one would love to have you back on this thread sharing your knowledge, i know you cant reveal every detail but you inspire the ones who are serious about studying and building these cells, hope you find a way to keep pointing us to the right direction.... cheers

cgalvisardila,

Cynicism? what do you think your comment was?

I can see that John and chuck have put allot of time, effort and money into this R&D, which will need to be recouped

Do you think they are just in it for a giveaway? think again (but any information they can share is appreciated)

You just slammed everyone else here, as not relevant and wasting your time

I would encourage everyone attending here to post and share, even the cell failures teach us something of value

Did you ever think that a chili powder cell would give 1.6 volts and over 500Ma ?

Another spice I tried was ground Cloves, this gave 1.88 volts and over 600 Ma

The size of material used was 1/8 the size that John uses

I can laugh at the use of spices for power cells, but you can not scoff at the power results

So please do not preach at me

Also plengo just shared some valuable information on his cells he is creating, this is appreciated

Good luck

hey alwest, no need to get upset, i'm just saying that organic material will get bad soon, (guess i should have said it like that exactly) the cell won't last... i appreciate very much every single thread of information here, i read it all carefully. please my friend, speak for yourself, i haven't slammed anyone, never had since i joined, please everyone, i have great respect for all of you, i replicate every experiment i can, and honestly according to the results i got so far, Fausto (that's plengo's name), john and chuck and lidmotor are the researches i most carefully follow (although i haven't been able to build those wonderful oscillators you build lidmotor, keep it up ) right now i'm working on a miniaturized plate like design to stack many thin cells, soon i'll post on this, i'm getting 4v at 100Ma a single cell about 1inch by 1 inch, just 3 plates, using a hybrid of a bedini mix and a Fausto mix (carbon alum, hydrate #5 a pinch of MnO2 and pyrite... i got the idea from the video you shared Alwest... so please don't put words in my mouth, you don't know if i appreciate something or not just because i'm pointing out that i've seen better results on this thread than what anything with organic material has reached, and want to encourage people and the older more experienced men to help us go for high power/high efficiency/durability. if any of these miss, the cell wont perform as needed... not expecting a giveaway from anyone, never said that either, just asking for help, i do appreciate your work Alwest i follow it also, but i don't replicate it because i know already that organic material wont last long, i do feel amazed that you can get that kind of power from chilli, i hope you find a way to make it work and prove me wrong, show me a video of a chilli cell that's older than 6 months and keep giving 1.88v at 600 Ma, that would be beyond awesome, please.... no disrespect intended brother, maybe sometimes writing messages don't give a sense of the mood the words come with.... seen this happen before not long ago in this very thread....

[cgalvisardila]

Also, if anyone else here is offended by anything i said, i apologize, i'm only looking to learn and make some energy, that's all