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  • Originally posted by vintasalo View Post
    So their actually communicating energy through the tree it's self

    I have a solar panel connected to a watermellon plant now to see if I increase it's energy if it will grow it's fruit faster.
    No I think the research team misunderstood what was happening. You can have a voltage from using the same metals but the electrolyte you put them in must be different. They merely made a galvanic cell. The reason you get voltage is due to one metal having more electrons than the other and both want to be at a equal state so one gives up electrons so that they both balance out. Since its giving up electrons it will start to fall apart and soon stop. The real goal is to figure out a way to stop the falling apart but still get voltage from it. I never built a tree battery so i don't know if the metals decay or if the tree supplies power back to the metal to keep it from decaying or what.


    @ all

    I'm just throwing out a idea but I think Marcus Reid could have used Chemalloy for one of his electrodes. It does state he used aluminum and Chemalloy is mostly aluminum, this would explain the very slow deterioration of the aluminum on his cell. Making chemalloy battery would be of great interest because they last for a long time.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    • @ all

      I'm just throwing out a idea but I think Marcus Reid could have used Chemalloy for one of his electrodes. It does state he used aluminum and Chemalloy is mostly aluminum, this would explain the very slow deterioration of the aluminum on his cell. Making chemalloy battery would be of great interest because they last for a long time.

      Good find IB

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      • Originally posted by Allwest View Post
        Have tried making the chili cell with 500Ma?

        Allwest power cell # 5b - YouTube

        thats amazing, what are your long term results, still going at 500Ma? sure its strong, the chilli doesnt go bad?

        cheers

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        • Originally posted by cgalvisardila View Post
          thats amazing, what are your long term results, still going at 500Ma? sure its strong, the chilli doesnt go bad?

          cheers
          It does go down fast, but have had cells last over a month above 100Ma

          I am trying different way of keeping the amps up

          One thing that helps keep it moist is (dry out) Dry Out® Dehumidifier

          Mix with electrolyte, or over the top of the cell

          You will not need to add water, it draws moisture from the air, and keeps your cell moist

          Regarding chili going bad-So far one cell still going after 2 months

          Best of luck,

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          • Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
            Everything is made up of pure energy.

            The 1.6 volts was on the AC side of your meter. The one volt was the DC side. If you move the nail in the tree closer to the copper tube you should see a increase in amps.

            I remember reading this awhile ago about some people doing the same thing. Scientists Draw Electricity from Trees
            "Everything is made up of pure energy"

            IB,

            I think you made a cell one time that was only made of carbon bits, one smaller and one bigger, can you supply link?

            To all, some thoughts

            This is a perfect example of nature applying energy to equal things out

            This is also what causes the wind, hot to cold

            Nature is always trying to equal things out, and we are capturing some of the energy that nature applies to accomplish this

            I know there is a name for this .... Entropy?

            Entropy is why they say there will never be a perpetual motion machine, because everything is destined to decrease to its lowest power or form

            Your thoughts?

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            • Extropy also exists, which is the opposite of entropy, and is really what we are looking for here. It is the effect of building up instead of breaking down. Or a situation where something is constantly giving off, that which it is also constantly receiving. Such as what a Sun, a planet, or a Vortex are doing, although there may be nothing that may do so, forever.
              The best closest example of what we are trying to create here is the solar cell. There is no oxidation involved, and it produces energy by a conversion factor. And, so can our power cells, although it may take us a while to achieve this. Remember that it only took a few thousand years to come up with the current version of the solar cell. It's only a matter of time...
              China will produce them cheaper than we can buy the parts to build it ourselves. It is already happening, we just don't realize it, yet. There are many scientists in mayor companies like EverReady, Panasonic, G.E. Motorola, etz...working on this. I'm sure the N.A.S.A already is utilizing them. They are not being produced for the public for the same reason that gasoline motors are still being produced. As these companies will not compete with their own technologies. It's all about money, and competition.
              If you don't think so, just wait and see. There are already batteries that don't need to be recharged, with a three year guarantee. If they fail, they will be replaced for free.
              Even At the Dollar Stores now, regular AAs are being sold for 12 cent each.
              Are we going to make something better by placing a couple of pieces of metal into a puddle of salts???

              NickZ
              Last edited by NickZ; 05-27-2012, 02:58 PM.

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              • Our Video - f(x) = √x - The Proof of "Free Energy" in Crystal Battery Cells

                Here it is you guys! Enjoy!
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWIyo6fAxo

                Documentation PDF: Crystal Battery Engineering - PV Engineeering Team
                Last edited by Herbie687; 05-30-2012, 01:49 AM. Reason: Link Correction
                - Kyle Herbig

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                • Guys, excellent work! Show the teachers, students and everyone this work.

                  Thank you,

                  Fausto.

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                  • Originally posted by plengo View Post
                    Guys, excellent work! Show the teachers, students and everyone this work.

                    Thank you,

                    Fausto.
                    Hows the grease cells doing?

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                    • Originally posted by Herbie687 View Post
                      Good Job guys

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                      • Thanks you guys. Definitely spreading the word.

                        Originally posted by Allwest View Post
                        Good Job guys
                        Also, I made I mistake with link for the PDF. I didn't know the direct link could expire, you have to press the download button on the page to get the file.
                        Here is the correct link: Crystal Battery Engineering - PV Engineeering Team
                        - Kyle Herbig

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                        • Originally posted by Allwest View Post
                          Hows the grease cells doing?
                          So far excellent. I will very soon open up my baseline cell that has beem running almost shorted for over a month and watered constatly.

                          Fausto.

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                          • Originally posted by NickZ View Post
                            Extropy also exists, which is the opposite of entropy, and is really what we are looking for here. It is the effect of building up instead of breaking down. Or a situation where something is constantly giving off, that which it is also constantly receiving. Such as what a Sun, a planet, or a Vortex are doing, although there may be nothing that may do so, forever.
                            The best closest example of what we are trying to create here is the solar cell. There is no oxidation involved, and it produces energy by a conversion factor. And, so can our power cells, although it may take us a while to achieve this. Remember that it only took a few thousand years to come up with the current version of the solar cell. It's only a matter of time...
                            China will produce them cheaper than we can buy the parts to build it ourselves. It is already happening, we just don't realize it, yet. There are many scientists in mayor companies like EverReady, Panasonic, G.E. Motorola, etz...working on this. I'm sure the N.A.S.A already is utilizing them. They are not being produced for the public for the same reason that gasoline motors are still being produced. As these companies will not compete with their own technologies. It's all about money, and competition.
                            If you don't think so, just wait and see. There are already batteries that don't need to be recharged, with a three year guarantee. If they fail, they will be replaced for free.
                            Even At the Dollar Stores now, regular AAs are being sold for 12 cent each.
                            Are we going to make something better by placing a couple of pieces of metal into a puddle of salts???

                            NickZ
                            Hi Nick
                            Just some thoughts

                            Extropy is referring to our hope in human intelligence to expand in an orderly way

                            It is my belief that the power we are tapping into is the power of Entropy

                            Although, I love trying to prove myself wrong

                            But in the mean time, I believe we can improve on the power we are collecting from entropy

                            There are ways of collecting power that we are not tapping into (waste)

                            that does not take away from the energy expended (work)


                            Such as piezo electric placed in highways, the cars running over these will create electricity and it does not slow down the car

                            Many more examples


                            This is kinda what I am going for with these cells, crystal, piezo, galvanic and what ever else you can think of collecting power in concert as one

                            Best of luck to all
                            Last edited by Allwest; 06-01-2012, 02:26 PM.

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                            • Extropy exists. You will not find it by looking on the internet, but, I'm letting you know that there is more to it than just entropy, or the break down of energy and things.
                              The polarization of light and actual creation of light, is what I'm really talking about. It is not coming from the Sun, as I've mentioned before, believe it not.
                              The only way to avoid the galvanic break down in our cells, is by not letting this happen. I'm tired of mentioning this, again. Seams like nobody is listening, or believing it, anyways.
                              We are not getting there by placing metal cells into dissolving caustic salt baths, acid, or alkaline solutions, or by putting a nail in a tree, or adding water to blood, or, or, or, ....
                              Several years have passed and NO ONE has a cell that is not dissolving into mush. Or not??? By this I mean a USEABLE CELL, not one that will hardly light an led. Wow, it works!!!
                              If the lights go out, as is expected, and as we have been warned repeatedly, then what are we going to do??? All 4 billion of us??? Not happening yet? BUT, look around, things are not the same, sh!t is happening... everywhere. I know that most of us here are aware of that, or are we?
                              Rechargeable batteries, solar panels, wind, and hydro are all very useable answers. Unless we wait to long.
                              Have you seen what happens during even fake gasoline shortages.... real bad earthquakes, power shortages, huricanes, etz... I have.

                              I don't care what people do, or don't do, anymore or less than how much people care what I do, but, in order to get anywhere with this project WE need to FOCUS....
                              Our great leader is not with us any longer, JB, and so, can we still run with this, and make something USEFUL of it all, not just spending more time, pissin' into the wind. Do you know what I'm talking about, does it matter?
                              Sorry if my attitude is not very "NICE", now. It's Not a matter of faults.
                              I'm a practical guy looking and working on real solutions, not a hobby, not a pastime, as if my life depended on this, and so is John B, which I do value and miss a lot. If he only knew...

                              NickZ

                              P.S. My only intention is to direct this project to a real life solution.
                              While we still can... I am on YOUR SIDE, THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT.

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                              • Originally posted by NickZ View Post
                                Extropy exists. You will not find it by looking on the internet, but, I'm letting you know that there is more to it than just entropy, or the break down of energy and things.
                                The polarization of light and actual creation of light, is what I'm really talking about. It is not coming from the Sun, as I've mentioned before, believe it not.
                                The only way to avoid the galvanic break down in our cells, is by not letting this happen. I'm tired of mentioning this, again. Seams like nobody is listening, or believing it, anyways.
                                We are not getting there by placing metal cells into dissolving caustic salt baths, acid, or alkaline solutions, or by putting a nail in a tree, or adding water to blood, or, or, or, ....
                                Several years have passed and NO ONE has a cell that is not dissolving into mush. Or not??? By this I mean a USEABLE CELL, not one that will hardly light an led. Wow, it works!!!
                                If the lights go out, as is expected, and as we have been warned repeatedly, then what are we going to do??? All 4 billion of us??? Not happening yet? BUT, look around, things are not the same, sh!t is happening... everywhere. I know that most of us here are aware of that, or are we?
                                Rechargeable batteries, solar panels, wind, and hydro are all very useable answers. Unless we wait to long.
                                Have you seen what happens during even fake gasoline shortages.... real bad earthquakes, power shortages, huricanes, etz... I have.

                                I don't care what people do, or don't do, anymore or less than how much people care what I do, but, in order to get anywhere with this project WE need to FOCUS....
                                Our great leader is not with us any longer, JB, and so, can we still run with this, and make something USEFUL of it all, not just spending more time, pissin' into the wind. Do you know what I'm talking about, does it matter?
                                Sorry if my attitude is not very "NICE", now. It's Not a matter of faults.
                                I'm a practical guy looking and working on real solutions, not a hobby, not a pastime, as if my life depended on this, and so is John B, which I do value and miss a lot. If he only knew...

                                NickZ

                                P.S. My only intention is to direct this project to a real life solution.
                                While we still can... I am on YOUR SIDE, THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT.

                                Nick

                                Unfortunately I was not apart of this board when JB was running it, and I do not really know who he is

                                I have seen several of his videos, and I guess the only ones I have seen was the ones tested right after the cells where created, except the one he shows created by someone else, have you seen any testing of his cells on long term?

                                Also, I would like to know one thing about JB, Is he claiming these cells that he is making are NON-Galvanic?

                                Best of luck

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