Bedini Earth Light

[chuck H]

Positive gate

@ MK1
Yes positive gate

[hiops]

Ok so I've built my first Bedini Earth Light concrete cell out of quickcrete and distilled water. I've made 4 different types using different style of plate. The first style is copper and aluminum wire, the other types are very different and a little out there.

You see the other plates don't use any other metal than aluminum wire. Both plates in the cell are aluminum and what makes them different is the plate size and or shape. One cell has one aluminum wire barely touching the concrete and the other is fully in the cell. The third cell has both aluminum wire in at the same length. The last cell has one wire all the way in and the other wire is a coil shape.

I've just made the cells and they're still very new and wet, but the all aluminum plates cells are producing voltage. The voltage is small, any where from 50mV to 200mV. I really want to see if it will still produce voltage even when the water is gone. Using only aluminum plates have eliminated the galvanic reaction.

Hi, Ib! I made quickcrete cell in a coke can with 1/2" copper pipe with tap water and it gave 700 mV from the very beginning then 30 min later it went down to 400mV, and few hours later it was around 1V, now 2 weeks later it rests around 1.1 -1.3 V, depends on the weather. First on short circuit it gave 1mkA indefinitely, now it gives 29-30 mkA indefinitely, my next step I'll make it with alum and distilled water. I don't know why your readings are so low.
Alex

[Matthew Jones]

I built several with Portland, copper based sodium silicate, and marble chips ground down to power. I used 1.5 inch 1/8 inch thick aluminum square pipe and 1/2 inch copper pipe wrapped with bare copper wire to fill up the space.
The aluminum was bath in Muriatic acid to strip any coating of. (Works well, and make little pits)

I just got done loading them up. 2 week with 10k ohm resistor, 1 week with a 5k, and 1 week with a 1k.

In the heat they stand about 1.38 volts. With a load they drop off to .85v at 4 milliamp.

But today we dunked them in water. They stayed 1.38 volt (maybe not while under the water) they still react to heat very well, but they can deliver 25 milliamp rather routinely. We have been running the 3 of them today at that level and there holding around 1.1 volt.

I have noticed a small white growth at the bottom of one but I don't know what it is off hand. Its growing around the aluminum.

I wanna built a bigger set with maybe some kind wick to moisten it so I can get the power out of it. I have not noticed any green around the copper so I am not sure if the extra power galvanic or not. Like I said It still loves the heat.

Cheers
Matt

[Inquorate]

YouTube - How to make solar cells (DIY/homemade solar cell)

i found this video quite interesting. I wonder if the guy knows it's not what he says it is.

[ibpointless2]

Hi, Ib! I made quickcrete cell in a coke can with 1/2" copper pipe with tap water and it gave 700 mV from the very beginning then 30 min later it went down to 400mV, and few hours later it was around 1V, now 2 weeks later it rests around 1.1 -1.3 V, depends on the weather. First on short circuit it gave 1mkA indefinitely, now it gives 29-30 mkA indefinitely, my next step I'll make it with alum and distilled water. I don't know why your readings are so low.
Alex

My readings are low because i'm not using copper aluminum, i'm using only aluminum for both plates. Even when using the same metal for both plates i get a voltage but its low. Using the same metals gets rid of the galvanic reaction when using copper and aluminum or other dissimilar metals.

[Armagdn03]

Some clues.

My work lately has centered on macroscopic crystal building using the seed patterns described by Aaity Olsen. Work coincides with this page (though I have not finished reading through it).

Powerme alluded to some very important topics, however I think it is always very important to distill process to be simple and effective for the layman.

One of the primary things noted was wavelength of the "cosmic rays" and how to interface with them. Nano crystaline material need not be used for this purpose. In such a case the corpuscles act in tandem with an overtone which corresponds to the energy's they react with. (a bell will respond to stimulation which matches the resonant spectrum peaks). but this can be done on a planar geometry...

Consider electroplating. Thickness of layers can be controlled through adjustment of temperature of carier liquid, time of treatment, current, NON ELECTRON FLOW ELECTRIC FIELD GRADIENT, etc....The purpose?

Quarter wave cancellation, as used in thin film optics as anti reflective coatings.

Anti-Reflection Coatings

It just so happens that germanium is translucent to the infrared spectrum....ever see a germanium lens? Did you know you can electroplate this and MANY other materials, some require very high voltage may be required for low conductivity semi conductors.

Germanium Optical Components

Oxides are important why???? most salts have a cubic of parallel piped crystalline structure. Oxide layer thickness can also be controlled. electrically "charged" elements find their line of economy within salts, this is the "marriage" of equal and opposite elements from a proper periodic table. for example note the location of potassium and bromine in making a very stable salt sodium-bromide. (spanning octaves 6-7)(equal and opposite locations about a line of economy)

http://www.reocities.com/capecanaveral/8989/russtbl.gif

ever wonder why "orgone" accumulators use alternating layers of conductor and insulator? We see immediately perhaps capacitor.....but there is more to it....How do you make an electromagnetic check valve?

Ever wonder why the house of Nathan Stubbfield was so warm when they entered? two plates, parallel, carefully placed a purposeful distance apart, dissimilar metals (each chosen for a purpose), impedance (air gap) in-between. Similar concepts, different use (to create heat). Perhaps Peter Lindeamann would like to expand on this topic.

Enjoy your experimenting!

[Armagdn03]

P.S.

Stressing many crystals (either in compression or expansion) can radically alter the electrical conductivity. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

[ibpointless2]

Same Metals

I've got video of my cement cell using only Aluminum plates instead of the normal dissimilar metals that everyone else uses. Both plates are the same metal which is aluminum and I still get a voltage and amps. At 3:50 in the video I show amps coming from the cell.

I have other cells that just use water that I also show in the video that produce over 600mV. This cement cell is low voltage and low amps but show you that power is still there. Using the same metals I has gotten rid of the galvanic reaction. I'm still trying to figure out where the voltage is coming from, I think it might be due to temperature.

The cement cell is one of the first cells, its just quick-crete and distilled water. I used aluminum wire because its the easiest to play with. I did make one aluminum wire into a coil shape because different shapes give different readings.

I'm only using aluminum and aluminum, not the copper and magnesium or any dissimilar metals. My plates are both the same metal from the same spool of wire. So the voltage and amps is low but it does show that there is power and this power can charge capacitors. The cell still work even when in a Faraday cage (microwave oven).

here's the video
YouTube - Cement Same Metal Water battery02.mov

[Matthew Jones]

More than likely its just a natural (or RF type charge) charge sitting on the wire. Because the wires are 2 different length they store different amounts and you can measure a potential difference, as well as watch the current from one potential to the next.
I am not trying to belittle it or anything like that. I was just trying to explain the voltage. It is pretty neat. If it scales with the amount of wire you use then that would pretty much prove it.

The real test would be AIR but of course thats not a good way to connect it.

But you might try a salt bridge between 2 cups of water. Use alot of wire and a small bit of wire see if it raises. But you have to get some agar to make the bridge.

Nice work.
Matt

[ibpointless2]

More than likely its just a natural (or RF type charge) charge sitting on the wire. Because the wires are 2 different length they store different amounts and you can measure a potential difference, as well as watch the current from one potential to the next.
I am not trying to belittle it or anything like that. I was just trying to explain the voltage. It is pretty neat. If it scales with the amount of wire you use then that would pretty much prove it.

The real test would be AIR but of course thats not a good way to connect it.

But you might try a salt bridge between 2 cups of water. Use alot of wire and a small bit of wire see if it raises. But you have to get some agar to make the bridge.

Nice work.
Matt

I've already done the experiments on the size of the plate and have found that plate size has nothing to do with the voltage. But the bigger the plate the more amps. Also the cells still working inside of a Faraday cage so its not RF noise.

[mikrovolt]

Ibpointless,

In examining a rock collection of a selection of ores on hand. John selected
Bornite and copper ores of peacock varieties was his intuitive manner
because we asked him to use his experience in battery research
to get us on solid ground with crystals. I think much progress can be seen
and we are studying this and learning alot and not waiting for
photovoltaic spray paint to appear at walmart on sale.

I admire that you took the cat-trap idea a step further.
I am glad your here, as the I am glad everyone here is still following.
It just amazes me how collectively,we have so much talent in one place.

In talking aluminum, I tryed a little experiment.
I used a Qtip, baking soda, alligator clips, 9V battery.
I clip the Qtip with the alligator about 1/8 inch from the end dip it in water
and baking soda get a small slurry, connect one clip to aluminum strip the other ends to the battery.
I paint (plate)the surface, reverse the leads try acidic solution
paint the other strip. I also did this with some copper pcb strips.

One strip has different surface tension and the water sheets
evenly the other beads up. With copper sheets one looks more pink.

I could never understand why copper when heated formed both copperI and
copperII and when I try to learn band gap stuff from a electroluminescent
approach I end up back at square one. The electroluminessence I read
goes back to 1958 but it seems there is some other crystal energy related
science that is either missing or no one took it a step further or more than
likely just my ignorance of solid state physics.

I hope you continue with the two aluminum electrodes as a balanced network.
I know when an equation is balanced on both sides you can move everything to one side
and let it equal = 0 or approach zero closely with neutral electrodes of the same material.
Any significant change to one of the electrodes should be clearly noticeable.

With the earth light I think the circuit is reverse inside the cell from the oscillator
while the open system dc pulse can take advantage of the gates to maintain
the dipole. The elemental nature of disasociated water carries a kinetic
component across the symbolic zero point to the load (the green led) where
another ZP node exist where the kinetic component impacts the light emitting junction.
If we just call it an alum cell then it is easy to digress to text book knowledge.

This explanation is my current understanding level.

[pengrove]

liquid glass saves the day at the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster. I never even heard of the stuff until the other day. Some testers are reporting that LG ,alum,cement cells put out the most current.

Any other data to confirm this?

[ibpointless2]

Does anyone else's concrete/cement cell start to loose power over time? My cells started out low but the next day they went up high and continued the climb for 2 days total but on day 3 have been going down in power. The decent down has slowed down as the days go on. Anyone else seeing this?

[mk1]

@all

Cement takes about 30 days to dry to 90 percent .Cement also contracts slightly less then 5 percent .

I work for a mason ...

I also learned that bones are piezo electric i do not know how efficient they are put easy and cheep .

If the cement contract enough it might add the needed pressure on the piezo electric element .

Bones should be perfect space antenna ...

@ibpointless

I wonder if you tried a copper to copper cell with one borax treated .

Mark

[NickZ]

Ib and All:
I do notice that my cement beach sand batteries do vary. It reminds me of the captrets, somewhat. Temperature may also be a factor.
My cement batteries do seam to take and hold a charge, so I am now testing this to see what they will do with that.
I think that size or volume of the battery has little to do with the amount of charge that they will take, or give out. Just like an AAA compared to a D cell are both producing 1.3 volts, or so. But they are not storing the charge, but are producing it instead.
It may be the same reason that the captret works, that is, that they are converting the Aether from the air around them in the same way that the capacitor bounces back after being discharged. It is not a chemical reaction, they are converting Aether to electricity.
If a group of batteries in series are connect to a solar panel, they will hold that charge to a point, and once used up, will continue to output their original voltage. Even at night. So, they may also function as a storage medium.
When the batteries are externally charged, even for a second, they do hold that charge, just like a capacitor, even for days.
Although just beach sand and cement does work, the cans that have a coiled up copper tube inside do have a slightly higher voltage. Mine can output as much as an AA battery, but don't have enough current to light a Jtc, even with no resistor in the circuit.
In any case it's a start, and my leds are on 24/7, which does vary a bit as you mentioned. They do seam to like to be shorted out, when they get dimmer. I think that possibly what varies more is the current, as mine don't have more than about 3 mA in each one, so I have to use three cans to get enough voltage and current to light an led (or two) although two cans will work.
I recommend that those that have access to beach sand try that. You can connect all the cans together that are needed to make a battery bank to obtain a more adequate light output, for Free.

NickZ