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  • Rock Crystal Cell 1

    To all,
    Ok at least someone knows the rocks. That is correct just about everything is in it including mica. Something very important if you attempt to build and test rock batteries. you first must determine the length of the holes your going to drill because you need the rock to work like a porous membrane so I hope you all understand what must happen.

    The rock I'm using has very high resistance between the two chambers so you must carve a very thin wall without breaking it so the electrons can pass through it. The impedance of Crystal Cells is not a fixed unit because it can vary according to the load placed on it. I do have permission from Marcus Reid to make a full youtube of his cells and how they work I can even say the chemicals used in it. For all of you that watched his animation's, I can explain it this way. Marcus likes to think of his cells like a solar cell without the light. I see something much different going on. In the animation he shows sailing ships starting at the positive pole of the battery and a wind / or electrical wind as he calls it pushing the ships along. As the ship sails through the water a bow wave under load appears, no load no bow wave, it is this wave that powers the electrical lights and loads in all electrical systems.

    So all the energy is originated in the separation of the dipole when the ships are all gone as they sailed to the negative terminal the battery is dead. I however I see this much different as the Reid cell can reverse itself. So what Ried has built is a switching battery that can recharge itself, so the ships never stop sailing. Reid cells uses Polycrystalline Silicate that is in-between the Aluminum and the coated copper electrode. This should give you some idea of what is going on in the coherent Vacuum in this cell.
    Happy sailing.
    John B
    Last edited by John_Bedini; 09-10-2011, 02:55 AM. Reason: mis edit
    John Bedini
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    • Hi All , Its really going good for everyone as i can see !

      I had a question about those cell first , are they affected by magnets , moving or not .

      Second i had some idea on polarization , we do it between both sides of the battery , mainly electrostatic charge but on the drawing i made there might be another way , charging it at high amps on a single side not using the magnesium , like making magnets ala leedskalnin ... , like making a strange electric magnet .



      Mark
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      • Has this battery type ever been polarized with the output form of energy as produced by Tesla's Stout Bar/Hairpin circuit?
        i.e. Longitudinal wave source? Is it possible?
        Very best regards,
        JEHDDS

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        • Hi Guys!

          My main question is how can we be getting voltage from electrodes in 2 SEPARATE chambers in the rock?

          Is it at least possible that water could be travelling through the porous rock membrane? And thus still maintain a galvanic reaction? Or have we at last dispelled the Galvanic demon?

          How does the rock battery work? - YouTube

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          • Originally posted by jehdds View Post
            Has this battery type ever been polarized with the output form of energy as produced by Tesla's Stout Bar/Hairpin circuit?
            i.e. Longitudinal wave source? Is it possible?
            Very best regards,
            JEHDDS
            I tried to hit mine with 25Kv DC. It just shorted straight through the rock. I'm going to try and separate the two chambers at a greater distance on my next rock in the hope that it wont do this, and i can charge it with HV.

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            • Originally posted by NickZ View Post
              Carbon-Quartz Crystal Cell:
              I went to the beach that is next to my house today and picked up some pure white quartz beach rocks or pebbles. I ground them down to a flour like powder, and combined layers of carbon (from a D cell battery),and the beach quartz rock powder, until I filled a capacitor can that measures (3/4 by 1.5 inch). Which I had previously emptied out to be used to make my new "crystal cell".
              Well, it worked out great, the meter readings show 1.3 volts, and 25 to 50 mA. The only cell that I've made that starts at a lower output, and in one minute goes up to twice the starting current output and stays there at about 45mA, while I'm watching the mA on the meter.
              This new crystal cell cell is less than a tenth the size of my previous capacitor can cell, and has the output current. I'll test this further tomorrow, when I get some more time,and I'll also take some pictures.
              3/4 of the mix in the electrolyte of this new cell is pure quartz. The cell is made only using mostly quartz powder and small quartz chips, carbon, and a small copper wire for the center positive electrode, and the aluminum capacitor can.
              NO additional water was added, just the two metal electrodes, and powdered quarts and carbon as the electrolyte.
              Hi,NickZ, nice discovery and very interesting performance of your C-Quartz cell! Did you heat the mixture? Did you press it to compact the mix? Did you blend the carbon powder and the quartz powder or just poured them layer by layer? 45mA for that size is already something.
              I suggest to bias the cell with some voltage to see if this can improve its performance further.
              I will go to pay a visit to the beach nearby tomorrow! thank you everybody for keeping this thread up.
              aaron5120

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              • Arron5120 and All:
                The Quartz/Carbon Cell was built in layers, a layer of carbon, a layer of quartz, and so on to fill the capacitor can. It was pressed down tight, with an insulator at the bottom of the aluminum can.
                I can get 55 to 60mA from this cell, but it starts lower (35mA) or so, and then goes up, even with the meter as a load. Two cells lit a red led brightly, but one cell won't light it, (almost). Although there is some current with this set up, but still needs a tiny bit more voltage to light the led by itself.
                It seams that the load actually increases the current output to double of what it starts at. This only take some seconds to reach its optimum operating levels. More tests are needed, to determine if it's the quartz, or the carbon, or the combination of both, that is causing the output.
                I have just made another control cell using just carbon, and no quartz. We'll see what happens.
                NickZ

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                • TiO2

                  Hi everybody,

                  a friend and I ordered some magnesium sulfat and pottasium chlorid and made some glue cells which are still running and give 1.3V.
                  I also looked up the links for the TiO2 so here they come:

                  A Delicious New Solar Cell Technology - YouTube

                  How To Make a Solar Cell with Donuts and Tea | Wired Science | Wired.com

                  Thanks for all the work you guys are putting into this

                  Cheers,

                  Prato

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                  • Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
                    I do have permission from Marcus Reid to make a full youtube of his cells and how they work I can even say the chemicals used in it.

                    John B
                    This is amazing news! Can't wait to see more info and please Let Reid know of our gratitude. Thank you for sharing this info with us too.

                    NickZ, very cool and simple cell. Looking forward to your research.

                    rw
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                    • About the cell I made that is sensitive to my finger and light, I've concluded it is due to the change in resistance. When the mix I made expose to higher temperature, resistance go down. This happens to semiconductor if Wiki is right. So the effect of conduction depends on resistance or conductance of the dielectric.

                      You can also put the meter between 2 dissimilar metal and connect them with your fingers. The same effect can be observed. However, this is by no mean the regular resistance in a resistor.

                      I took my meter and measure the resistance everything I see and so far it related to the moisture or water content of that material. Could water be responsible for all electrical conduction. I'm now suspecting a water battery may not be galvanic in nature. So far I found some clue on the net. This is a water battery made by Japan. One of the comment said that he made a water battery and observed that it is not a chemical reaction and direct to Karpen's Pile.

                      NoPoPo Water Powered Rechargeable batteries - YouTube

                      Karpen’s Pile: A Battery That Produces Energy Continuously Since 1950 Exists in Romanian Museum | The Green Optimistic

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                      • All:
                        Here is a picture of both of my newest quartz/carbon cell, and also of the carbon only cell. Looks like the carbon only cell is winning, with 60mA from the get go. The quartz cell takes longer to get to 45 to 50 mA. But both are doing great, and are the strong performers. I'll run them all night, and see what happens.
                        I also made a third crystal cell out of the cap on the wd40 can, as I didn't have any more capacitor cans to use, it is working also, but with less current output (15mA), as it doesn't have the mass from aluminum capacitor can.
                        I should know more in a day or two.
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                        • @ NickZ
                          This is a great cells Nick, how did you grind quartz pebbles, and could you load a picture of pebble itself.
                          Alex

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                          • NickZ,

                            Just tested your cell and it's all about the carbon. My quartz only cell didn't register an V's. The carbon one did well at .15 V/1.5mA. This was a very tiny cell, just to see. I used activated carbon from the pet store. It's really chunky so my contact with the metal was lacking. Need to pulverize it now...

                            Great find! I'd like to see what this will do when sealed from humidity though.

                            @Hiops, invest in a sledge hammer, doe wonders to pebbles :-)

                            rw
                            Last edited by everyidea; 09-11-2011, 02:34 AM.
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                            • The internal rock resistance is high, but not THAT high

                              Originally posted by seth View Post
                              I tried to hit mine with 25Kv DC. It just shorted straight through the rock. I'm going to try and separate the two chambers at a greater distance on my next rock in the hope that it wont do this, and i can charge it with HV.

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                              • Do you think the "grain" of the rock plays a part in where you put the electrodes? Or does the heat treatment and subsequent shock reorient the grain alignment, make it a moot point?

                                Why thin wall? Sure the resistance would be many times lower, but.
                                By doing this, are you losing the surrounding crystals outside the electrode path?
                                You said sponge so this, "water or "energy" in this case, flows into the chambers from the whole rock?

                                Sincerely,

                                David


                                Originally posted by John_Bedini View Post
                                To all,
                                You first must determine the length of the holes your going to drill because you need the rock to work like a porous membrane so I hope you all understand what must happen.

                                Happy sailing.
                                John B
                                Last edited by eternalightwithin; 09-11-2011, 06:57 PM. Reason: edited for clarity, it was late.

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