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[chuck H]

Zeolite

The more I research this the Zeolite group seems to be where we are headed. They are metamorphic (formed from heat and pressure) and allow for ion flow.

"zeolites have large vacant spaces or cages in their structures that allow space for large cations such as sodium, potassium, barium and calcium and even relatively large molecules and cation groups such as water, ammonia, carbonate ions and nitrate ions.
In the more useful zeolites, the spaces are interconnected and form long wide channels of varying sizes depending on
the mineral. These channels allow the easy movement of the resident ions and molecules into and out of the structure.
Zeolites are characterized by their ability to lose and absorb water without damage to their crystal structures."

Mineral Gallery - The Zeolite Group

Mike Klimesh

@ All: John and I tried the Zeolite months ago and found it did not help. I don't think We posted anything on it as it was not anything the group would want to try. If you want to try it there are 3 Zeolite mines in the U.S. All 3 are in southern Idaho. Bear river is 1 of them where We got this bag of Zeolite.

[everyidea]

zeolite

You can also buy zeolite at a pet/fish store, that's where I found mine. I agree, it didn't do much.

rw

[mikrovolt]

Amazing progress !
Would spring pressure on the magnesium disk help any ?
Does this mean the ion to water ratio is higher while the pH remains the same.
Is the thin film of water around the crystal an open door to the illusive natural ambient energy
when the oscillator is active in turn there is a higher concentration while the copper has a lower concentration,
every time the electrons cross the junction to the lower concentration the electrons at the end of the line
have an affinity to attract a drude electron ?

[redrichie]

thanks

John b. First I would like to say thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. Second I would like to ask why. I've have heard you say multiple times that time is running out or we are headed for the dark ages. I understand you not saying what is coming. But it seems you have an urgency and a need to share this. I'm not looking to start any fuss or chaos. I am prepparing for what lay ahead. Could you give us a time frame as to when you think an everlasting LED would be real useful. Say like when we are in the dark ages or as you've said before when there are no lights. I am sorry if I have distracted from this thread. But to get any input from John on any number of things is an honor to me. Please keep up this very interesting lost science.

[John_Bedini]

John b. First I would like to say thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. Second I would like to ask why. I've have heard you say multiple times that time is running out or we are headed for the dark ages. I understand you not saying what is coming. But it seems you have an urgency and a need to share this. I'm not looking to start any fuss or chaos. I am prepparing for what lay ahead. Could you give us a time frame as to when you think an everlasting LED would be real useful. Say like when we are in the dark ages or as you've said before when there are no lights. I am sorry if I have distracted from this thread. But to get any input from John on any number of things is an honor to me. Please keep up this very interesting lost science.

Redrichie,
I will answer your question in a little bit. and I will explain my moves toward this technology. It is important to you, but I will explain it.
John B
John B

[John_Bedini]

Amazing progress

Amazing progress !
Would spring pressure on the magnesium disk help any ?
Does this mean the ion to water ratio is higher while the pH remains the same.
Is the thin film of water around the crystal an open door to the illusive natural ambient energy
when the oscillator is active in turn there is a higher concentration while the copper has a lower concentration,
every time the electrons cross the junction to the lower concentration the electrons at the end of the line
have an affinity to attract a drude electron ?

Mikrovolt,
The concentrated substrate that I showed has been much more refined and is held in place with pressure in that box. If you look very close you will see two plastic rails those rails have another piece of plastic that wedges the cell together.

For those that dont know what the Drude Electron is,

The Drude model of electrical conduction was proposed in 1900 by Paul Drude to explain the transport properties of electrons in materials (especially metals). The model, which is an application of kinetic theory, assumes that the microscopic behavior of electrons in a solid may be treated classically and looks much like a pinball machine, with a sea of constantly jittering electrons bouncing and re-bouncing off heavier, relatively immobile positive ions.

The two most significant results of the Drude model are an electronic equation of motion, and a linear relationship between current density J and electric field E,


Here t is the time and p, q, n and m, and τ are respectively an electron's momentum, charge, number density, mass, and mean free time between ionic collisions. The latter expression is particularly important because it explains in semi-quantitative terms why Ohm's Law, one of the most ubiquitous relationships in all of electromagnetism, should be true
The model was extended in 1905 by Hendrik Antoon Lorentz (and hence is also known as the Drude–Lorentz model) and was supplemented with the results of quantum theory in 1933 by Arnold Sommerfeld and Hans Bethe. Another way to look at this,,,,,Prigogine crystal: an amorphous pellet or crystal made by sintering finely divided material at high temperature and pressure, in such fashion that the pellet becomes a highly stressed system far from thermodynamic equilibrium. Specifically, more than one type of material must be used, one ingredient of which must be piezoelectric, Rochelle salts . John B

[John_Bedini]

What is John up to

@ All,
Since you all are here you could be wondering what I'm up to. It is simple, to develop a cell that can be activated anywhere. How can this be done is simple, by building a crystal structure that can be painted on anything at any time. What do I mean by this, if you can grow a material and then bake it to form a stressed crystal all you need after that is water. What metals will I use to do this?.

As each chemical crystal must be different for each set of two metals the mix is going to be much different. The process I have showed today is just the starting point with me as I have seen what I want, work pays off.

The problem using Carbon or Graphite is that you must connect it with a wire. drilling and tapping for a screw adds impurity to the materials and it soon can be seen as some will just use some old screw. The plan is to get the working current high to run real low voltage circuits, it can be done with the correct oscillators. What will I make to work with all of this, Amplifiers, Radios, lights, motors and so on.

The time frame, soon I will be showing this. I want to light my house with these cells and charge batteries for a drop of water. If the cell goes bad no big deal I will just cut a new piece of crystal and water it. That is what John is up to, what are you up to? So now you know my plan.
Happy experimenting as my experiments are over I have seen what I want.
John B

[voire]

Black Semiconductor

@John Bedini

Hi, I just had a quick question. You showed firing the copper until it turned black. I'm able to get this effect with a blow torch, (I don't have a kiln) but do you reccomend heating the copper and letting it cool more than once? Or is the layer that develops after one heating sufficient? Thanks!

[John_Bedini]

copper black

Voire,
Turn the copper black about two to three times. What is going to happen is, the black oxide will become part of the crystal this will take time to combine with the hydrates. What will be left is the P device Salmon colored. This process forms a new compound crystal structure over time. The process will mimic Mn-03.
John B

[NickZ]

John B:
To obtain the black layer, does the copper need to be quickly cooled in water, or slowly normally cooled in the air, two or three times?
What is the best treatment layer for aluminum? I have no access to Mg.
NickZ

[everyidea]

Here is how I make my red or black oxide with copper:

Red: heat copper till it just turns blue/black, just before it turns cherry red, dip it into borax/water.

Black: heat copper till it's cherry red then let cool on its own.

Best thing to do is just buy some copper and then play with fire.

rw

[John_Bedini]

Black Copper CU0

NickZ,
I have a much different way that I do it, because the copper is not pure. I heat the copper just before it melts as I said in that video. The copper then is real soft and it is difficult to solder. The Black oxide is Cu0. I need this in my crystal as I have stated in the last post. You can do it any way you want as long as it is black, I have found that it even makes a big difference in the Alum Cells. But that is the way I do it.

Yes dipping it very fast in warm water to form a thick coat of black oxide, but my point here is that in the mix I'm using the Cu0 is very important as the reaction in the cells with the hydrate needs to mimic Mn-03.This is basally done with a sputtering process.

John B

[ibpointless2]

Yes dipping it very fast in warm water to form a thick coat of black oxide, but my point here is that in the mix I'm using the Cu0 is very important as the reaction in the cells with the hydrate needs to mimic Mn-03.This is basally done with a sputtering process.

John B

What is Mn-03?

[NickZ]

@ Plengo:
Looks like you have gotten real good results using the pulverized aquarium carbon, with silicate, and Alum. on the copper caps with 1/2 inch Mg plugs.
But I think that the layer treatment of the metals is still absolutely necessary to control the oxidation.
Thank you for sharing your work.

[John_Bedini]

What is Mn03

What is Mn-03?

Ibpointlass2,
It's just easer to say Mn03, it is Manganese(III) oxide I would write out the whole thing but I thought you knew this as I have talked about Magneanese (II) before as others have used it from old batteries here.
John B