Bedini Earth Light

[NickZ]

Guys:
1/2 hour later the carbon/sand cell is at almost at 1,5 volts.
I thought my meter was off, but it's a brand new analog meter, and it doesn't even have a battery placed in it, yet.
NickZ

[chuck H]

Voltage on Nanocrystaline cell

Here is a picture of the voltage climing under load. The mix without the
Mn2O3 would climb faster in my 1st test. Then I built the cell with the Mn2O3 in it and voltage has climbed but much slower. 20 minutes after last video it has climded but now is starting to stabalize.
6Ma output

[chuck H]

Solar cells

Early on John and I ground up solar cells to add as dopants. That did not go anywhere. I was wondering if anyone else has tried this? I know some are in search of the Dry cell that provides amps and is not galvanic.

[cgalvisardila]

John, i couldnt get the hydrate 5 from alfa aesar, they say they can't ship to a residential adress, only lo labs... so do you know any other reliable company that sells the hydrate 5? thanks

[NickZ]

Chuck H:
I was thinking of how solar cells are only a very thin coating, that you can practically scratch off with your fingernail. So why can't we do something similar with our cells. Only with another form of semiconductor. There are other frequencies to pick up on besides sunlight. Such as gravity waves, infrared, microwaves, radio waves, etz... Is this so far fetched? Maybe the two different metals cells are too limited to what they can do, especially without using water.
I'm sure we can find the way to get higher current levels also, maybe by not relying on just the limited output from the two different metals type cells.
NickZ

[John_Bedini]

For Lidmotor and the others that asked to see it

Lidmotor,
I did try to send this to you but it was rejected, as you always ask about the Hot Rods. I know this is not the place to post this but here is the Tunnel Ram on the L88 427 Chevy Big Block 12.5 to 1 compression studded Roller Cam engine that I installed into the 34 ford chopped pickup truck 2000 pounds total weight, the first tuning of the engine.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/tunnelram2.wmv
Must be to big to send by e-mail so uploaded it to my pages. I had others ask to see it run on the groups. Back to Crystal Batteries.
Enjoy
JohnB

[Lidmotor]

Hot Rod

Lidmotor,
I did try to send this to you but it was rejected, as you always ask about the Hot Rods. I know this is not the place to post this but here is the Tunnel Ram on the L88 427 Chevy Big Block 12.5 to 1 compression studded Roller Cam engine that I installed into the 34 ford chopped pickup truck 2000 pounds total weight, the first tuning of the engine.
http://www.johnbedini.net/john34/tunnelram2.wmv
Must be to big to send by e-mail so uploaded it to my pages. I had others ask to see it run on the groups. Back to Crystal Batteries.
Enjoy
JohnB

Thanks for that. Brings back some memories. I never had a machine like that and it is a good thing. I would have gotten into way too much trouble.
The things I had were all small blocks but even then they were a handful.

Lidmotor

[cgalvisardila]

Sodium Nitrate cell

Hi everyone, i came across this compound, i haven't seen anyone try it yet, sodium nitrate, made a cell with just that and it gave me some pretty interesting results, watch the video, here i compare that cell to a pure water cell to make sure the voltage and current are not coming only from the water, it clearly shows the sodium nitrate is boosting the current... now, i don't know if this is propostrus, nothing has blown up yet, so i guess i'm doing well... i'll see with time what it does to the electrodes, and how long it keeps up... i'll keep you posted.

Sodium Nitrate cell - YouTube

[Slider2732]

@IB2, sorry for the delay, quick moving thread still too.
Cell is bottled water, probably Smart Sense Purified from KMart, but again that documentation issue folks are reporting rears up - just didn't expect it to last so long without becoming stagnant. It's definitely store bought bottled though, as we don't have a City supply !
No other ingredients or additives.
Another, but with alum and as I believe b_rads uses unfortunately was probably botched by me and has run since November, but has a horrid brown rusting on the steel. Another one failed after 2 months and was running on rain water.
On returning to check the vaseline cell an hour later it was going fine.
This morning though, it had stopped. I thought to tip the container (pills bottle) and sure enough, the oscillator started up. It seems now to work only above the usual water line, which says to me that there is an area nearer the top that's not covered in vaseline. I covered the usual area of water immersion in it and then to a level above, but not so that I couldn't affix the connecting wire again to bare metal.
My conclusion, is that because the same exact piece of galv steel as ever is being used and was Dremmeled flat for the second time, that there were/are pits in the metal. Those pits enabled ion flow and the oscillator to fire (being as 'Penny' types need so little power to run). The waxy vaseline filled the holes (?) and so now it will only run above the treated area.
How it started after 2 minutes is summised to be because of the 100uF cap. The energy build up can take a while until the oscillator will fire, but fire it will on a tiny throughput, as long as 0.4V or so at any micro-amperage can get through.
All is not lost though. I'll clean the jelly off to a hoped for fine layer where the oscillator fires and see what happens with corrosion over the next month or so

[John_Bedini]

Do you see bubles

@IB2, sorry for the delay, quick moving thread still too.
Cell is bottled water, probably Smart Sense Purified from KMart, but again that documentation issue folks are reporting rears up - just didn't expect it to last so long without becoming stagnant. It's definitely store bought bottled though, as we don't have a City supply !
No other ingredients or additives.
Another, but with alum and as I believe b_rads uses unfortunately was probably botched by me and has run since November, but has a horrid brown rusting on the steel. Another one failed after 2 months and was running on rain water.
On returning to check the vaseline cell an hour later it was going fine.
This morning though, it had stopped. I thought to tip the container (pills bottle) and sure enough, the oscillator started up. It seems now to work only above the usual water line, which says to me that there is an area nearer the top that's not covered in vaseline. I covered the usual area of water immersion in it and then to a level above, but not so that I couldn't affix the connecting wire again to bare metal.
My conclusion, is that because the same exact piece of galv steel as ever is being used and was Dremmeled flat for the second time, that there were/are pits in the metal. Those pits enabled ion flow and the oscillator to fire (being as 'Penny' types need so little power to run). The waxy vaseline filled the holes (?) and so now it will only run above the treated area.
How it started after 2 minutes is summised to be because of the 100uF cap. The energy build up can take a while until the oscillator will fire, but fire it will on a tiny throughput, as long as 0.4V or so at any micro-amperage can get through.
All is not lost though. I'll clean the jelly off to a hoped for fine layer where the oscillator fires and see what happens with corrosion over the next month or so

Do you see bubbles around the metal that is covered by the jelly? if you do it is polarized and will not work. if your above the jelly and it works what does that tell you?. Contamination in the cell will short it out as it moves across the cell.

[Slider2732]

There are no bubbles John...good call though, because I wouldn't have known to look
All is running well again now, after I took the steel out and cleaned off some of the jelly. It still has a silky type finger feel, so i'll see what happens, if anything is different over the next few weeks.

I figured some of the explanation was a bit wayward and non exacting, so have just uploaded a short video...it shows the Nephilim Penny with the jellified electrode and the damaged corroding water battery still running.
Also, live rejuvenation of a little idea that has produced something interesting. It's the simple addition of epsom salts straight from the bag...the large crystal water containing salts. Over the month of running they have dried up into little pellets, so, I wondered if they would rehydrate with a bit of water in the same way as many other types of cells. They appear to do that just fine, the oscillator kicking up strongly. It's the 'wicking' sort of capillary effect into the salts mix which is of interest, if that's what it's doing.

Apologies for the non laboratory standard experiments area and the very old dirtied up modem cables that Nephilim Penny is made from. This big lady just looks to be ancient :
2x water cells + live cell rehydration - YouTube

[ibpointless2]

There are no bubbles John...good call though, because I wouldn't have known to look
All is running well again now, after I took the steel out and cleaned off some of the jelly. It still has a silky type finger feel, so i'll see what happens, if anything is different over the next few weeks.

I figured some of the explanation was a bit wayward and non exacting, so have just uploaded a short video...it shows the Nephilim Penny with the jellified electrode and the damaged corroding water battery still running.
Also, live rejuvenation of a little idea that has produced something interesting. It's the simple addition of epsom salts straight from the bag...the large crystal water containing salts. Over the month of running they have dried up into little pellets, so, I wondered if they would rehydrate with a bit of water in the same way as many other types of cells. They appear to do that just fine, the oscillator kicking up strongly. It's the 'wicking' sort of capillary effect into the salts mix which is of interest, if that's what it's doing.

Apologies for the non laboratory standard experiments area and the very old dirtied up modem cables that Nephilim Penny is made from. This big lady just looks to be ancient :
2x water cells + live cell rehydration - YouTube

Very nice Penny oscillators!

[jehdds]

Great News,
The possibility of starting a new thread and modus.
Think of the marketing possibilities of yogurt manufacturers combined with the "energy" food people
Or a fantastic addition to any septic system..........
Who will need wood gas?
Maybe even cow alimentary canals can be tapped....... hey, whats with the new udder attachments going to my ssg?

Space bacteria found in British river could be new power source for the world | Mail Online

Very Best Regards,
Jim

[ibpointless2]

One of my crystal cells that have been running for over 2 months powering a LCD clock. No water is needed to be added to the cell to keep it alive. Doesn't give a lot power but it runs a LCD clock just fine. 5 foot tall crystal cell keeps on ticking away without adding water - YouTube

[Lidmotor]

Petroleum Jelly

@IB
I tried your petroleum jelly idea and it didn't really work very well. I was kinda surprised because I have had such good luck using it on my boat to keep the electrical connections from corroding yet still make good contacts. John B. mentioned to me that in these cells we are looking for something else to happen and it is a different situation. Still it was a good stab at trying something new here and that is what this thread is all about.

@ All
We don't talk complex theory and math much ---but we sure do build alot of things. Jeanna once wrote when someone asked her about a coil wind, "...just wind with wild abandon." I often think about that phrase. It was her way of saying ---just go for it. That is what we do here.

Lidmotor