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  • Originally posted by reddpill View Post
    I've posted this earlier, but deem it quite important so I'll post t again incase some missed it. Maybe we also need to be experimenting with clay casings as clay naturally has Magnetite within it and when heated re-aligns the magnetic fields of the 'pot/bowl/jar' after cooling to the earths magnetic fields. This will also have an effect on the crystals inside the casing...kinda like a Baghdad battery approach.

    Magnetite Properties with Heat - Ancient Secrets Of Clay Amphora Vessels

    Also, the experiments so far have had a larger amount of copper involved, where as the magnesium has been smaller in size. Would it be better the other way round as like on Earth where the earth produces 300-400 thousand times 'negative' ions than positive? I could be wrong in thinking that but it was something I thought about.
    thank you Reddpill for the info .... in line with your post .... a good friend posted the following a while back in a thread:

    The Effects of Magnetic Water

    The Effects of Magnetic Water
    By John V. Milewski


    What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy.



    The apparatus for making this water is very simple. It consists of an empty new one gallon, in paint can, in which is placed an empty one liter soda bottle that has the top cut off at the level where it starts to get narrower. In the space between the inner wall of the paint can and the empty one liter container, magnetite is poured. This makes a cylinder of powdered magnetite about one and one half inches thick surrounding the one liter size hole in the center. Into this hole is placed a standard bottle of store bought spring water that is about 710 ml size (that's a 3 cup volume of water). It fits in very nicely.
    i guess following reddpill's vid ... if it was heated it would align with the earth magnetic field

    just in case you don't know who is John V. MILEWSKI :

    John V MILEWSKI : ORMUS Gold from Glass

    John V. Milewski -- Single Crystal Filament Light -- USP # 4864186, #5404836

    Dr. John V. Milewski is an Internationally recognized leader and consultant in his field of Advanced Materials. He is a professional engineer, scientist, inventor, entrepreneur, writer, publisher, editor and lecturer. He is a retired staff member of Los Alamos National Labs and has worked previously as a scientific staff member at Exxon Research Center and at Thiokol Chemical Rocket Engine Div. He recently founded his own research company called Superkinetic, Inc. where he is currently working on a revolutionary new electric light bulb based on using a single crystal fiber as a filament.

    He is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame in Chemical Engineering (1951, Stevens Institute of Technology with an MS in Metallurgy (1959), and has his Ph.D. in Ceramic Engineering from Rutgers University (1873). Dr. Milewski holds 30 patents and has over 42 publications and has edited 4 books in his field.

    In this write up Dr. Milewski will present information about his crystal growing business and his revolutionary unified field theory on SuperLight energy and he hopes to tie these two together to bring about cheap, clean energy and healing and regeneration.

    In March 2000 Dr. John V. Milewski along with his son Dr. Peter D. Milewski were honored to have their crystal filament light bulb invention Patent # 4,864,186 put on permanent exhibit at the Smithsonian American History Museum. This is part of a new exhibit titled "Lighting a Revolution" honoring the six most significant ideas in lighting field from 1950 to 2000.
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-15-2012, 12:59 PM.
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • @Reddpill
      Hmm, clay. Well what I do know, is that 7lbs of it costs just $1 at Dollar Tree here in Oklahoma...as cat litter ! (Ph5 is the brand).
      You'll often see '100% clay' on such packaging, so one has to imagine it's whatever purity that clay can be.

      Once made a cell with cat litter, in the days of the cement cells and it ran very well as that type...though I can't remember the figures it certainly was no disaster.
      Can it be worked, like potters clay, into a battery shaped casing ? I have completely no idea but it might be fun trying

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      • Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
        @Reddpill
        Hmm, clay. Well what I do know, is that 7lbs of it costs just $1 at Dollar Tree here in Oklahoma...as cat litter ! (Ph5 is the brand).
        You'll often see '100% clay' on such packaging, so one has to imagine it's whatever purity that clay can be.

        Once made a cell with cat litter, in the days of the cement cells and it ran very well as that type...though I can't remember the figures it certainly was no disaster.
        Can it be worked, like potters clay, into a battery shaped casing ? I have completely no idea but it might be fun trying

        good to read you Slider , been a while my friend

        kitty litter has another component that many scientist are exploring .... Zeolite

        Peter MAIER-LAXHUBER, et al.: Zeolite/water adsorbtion heating/cooling, yields up to 160% heat/cold; articles & 26 patents


        Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-15-2012, 12:53 PM.
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • Would it be better the other way round as like on Earth
          nature is the best Engineer

          ps: find magnesium on the spiral table and Copper ..... you will see that one has more "electric dominance" ....
          Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-15-2012, 01:10 PM.
          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • Yes indeed squire, good to read you too

            Hey look, how to actually use cat litter to potentially make cell casings !
            DIY Pottery Clay | eHow.com
            Not sure of the firing heat or time to do so though.

            The Wiki on Bentonite, the main constituent of cat litter clay, mentions "Bentonite is an absorbent aluminium phyllosilicate"

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            • for the firing you could inspire yourself from:

              Microwave melting of metals

              The microwave work was triggered by a short reference to the refining of rare earth metals, at Illawara Technology Centre, which was mentioned by a visitor to the Central Saint Martins foundry, Dennis Glaser. Since these metals melt at temperatures above 800 degrees Celcius, it seemed possible that the method could be adapted to melt and cast small objects in the workshop or studio. If this could be done a domestic microwave would, effectively, become a cheap and accessible furnace.

              Trials were begun which simply aimed to melt metals such as silver and bronze in open crucibles. However, it soon became obvious that casting to shape could also be accomplished by adapting the Reid Technique (RT) - a simplified ceramic-shell procedure for the casting of non-ferrous metals, patented in 1990. RT was first developed to avoid the problem of heat loss, which makes the the pouring of small melts very difficult - these difficulties arise however the metal is heated, and while the microwave technique set out here can be used for heating small amounts of metal in open crucibles, its greatest potential lies in its use as a flameless furnace in processes such as the Reid Technique. The crucial discovery, made during extended tests with various susceptors - materials which heat up when exposed to microwaves - was that two substances, graphite and magnetite, working together were required to achieve the kind of heating we were looking for.
              SiC (Silicon Carbide) is a good susceptor and it couples at room temperature and is good up to about 1100C. Alternatives are Magnetite, and Zirconium.
              Susceptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              A susceptor is a material used for its ability to absorb electromagnetic energy and convert it to heat (which is sometimes designed to be re-emitted as infrared thermal radiation). This energy is typically radiofrequency or microwave radiation used in industrial heating processes, and also occasionally in microwave cooking. The name is derived from susceptance, an electrical property of materials that measures their tendency to convert electromagnetic energy to heat.

              just don't use a microwave you heat your food with and always use caution .... respect the experiment

              ---------------------a bit of info on zeolite:

              WORLDS BEST CAT LITTER, ZEOLITE CAT LITTER,AMMONIA FIGHTER,ECO FRIENDLY,HEALTHY KITTY,GET ZEOLITE

              Zeolite is a molecular sponge (molecular sieve) with high porosity and absorbs free
              ammonia
              and other cat odours; not just absorbing and masking, but trapping and
              holding the cause of pet odor. Zeolite is the world’s only naturally occurring
              negatively charged mineral
              and therefore Zeolite seeks and holds positive ions and
              aqueous molecules (such as salts and ammonia from cat waste). In Europe and North
              America Zeolite is currently used in two types of cat litter (traditional and
              clumping). Zeolite is safe for pets , pet owners and the environment while
              prohibiting the formation of odors. For any pet accidents outside of their litter area
              simply add Zeolite to the area to absorb moisture and odors.
              Benifits of Zeolite for Cat Litter
              High liquid and ammonia absorption with premium odour control
              • Reduced tracking with strength to withstand traffic with minimal dust
              • Reduced cost of waste control
              Zeolites have distinctive properties as absorbents as they provide a strong
              molecular structure and micro-porosity, making them durable under the heaviest
              traffic. The pores extend deep into the molecular structure of the Zeolite resulting in
              a high surface area within the material. The depth of these pores allow for
              continuous effective absorption. The benefits of high internal surface area, physical
              strength and the ion exchange properties of the Zeolite, account for its exceptional
              performance as a cat litter and odor control applications.
              Zeolite is becoming prominent in the market place has been as a cat litter due to its
              ammonia absorption and lock-up capability as well as its waste and odor absorption
              capabilities. Unlike clay absorbents which are made of a plate type structure,
              zeolites crystal lattice forms a honeycomb structure resulting in a large and reactive
              surface area. This traps waste molecules and odours through molecular sieving
              capability, allowing selective separation, absorption and immobilization. Another
              unique feature is that Zeolite does not swell as in the case with clay. Zeolite does
              not lose its structural integrity (as clay absorbs moisture the plates swell and
              become soft and muddy). The honeycomb structure of Zeolite absorbs at a greater
              rate yet stays firm and stable. When your animal walks on it, the integrity is the same
              as when Zeolite came out of the bag whereas clay absorbent will become soft.
              Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-15-2012, 02:05 PM.
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              • here is a vid that might interest you ... uses clay with microwave

                Melting metals in the microwave on Vimeo



                ps: zeolite + nano magnetite trapped int the honeycomb structure
                Last edited by MonsieurM; 04-15-2012, 02:36 PM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • Fun video, severely lacking in leaping sparks and smoke though
                  I like how the whole thing came out looking like it was from a Blacksmith's forge.

                  OK, got some cat litter soaking in a cup and i'm intending to wait all day for it to absorb the water. But, that vid has me wondering about speeding up such a process in the microwave. Also, the wife is at work and we only have one microwave at the moment lol
                  Wonder if other electrolytes - like the chemicals in glow sticks could go with the cat litter ?!

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                  • Question for the board

                    Using the chili powder cell # 5b Allwest power cell # 5b - YouTube

                    I added dryout (calcium chloride) to keep it wet and absorb moisture by itself


                    The overall power went down, but it holds power when under load

                    Then I tried juicing it up with a 9volt battery and the whole thing started boiling very quickly

                    (So no more of that) until I find out what kind of gas this could be

                    Any ideas?

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                    • The practical application of dry crystal cells

                      They will last a VERY long time

                      IBpointless and Bedini have made some and others

                      Being conservative, lets say we could get 1 volt and 5Ma and they would cost $1.00 for material

                      for $1,000.00 you could have 1,000 volts and 5 Amps for a VERY long time

                      is this worth it and what could you do with it?

                      Keep in mind I have made dry crystal cells with 1.45 volts and 10MA that has lasted this way for months, I am not sure of every ones other cell stats


                      Could you imagine a garage full of these cells? kinda reminds me of the first computer

                      We could name it the Allwest Power house Ha!


                      Thoughts?

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                      • The reason that we don't see anyone with a cell bank of 50 volts, or 100 volts,or more, is because it is very difficult to do. But, volts are much easier to add up and obtain than amps, or mA.
                        As a cell bank is connected up in series, the cell voltages will add up, but, while causing an increased impedance with each added cell. And when placed in parallel, the weakest or lowest most resistive cell will be the one that keeps all the other cells at that same output level, when connected in parallel.
                        So, the cells need to be matched to produce about the same output, and connecting them mostly up in parallel to avoid higher resistance and impedance.
                        High impedance is what you are seeing, a few seconds after you connect the led or oscillator to your cell, ( small chile powder cells), only to watch the output dwindle. The small cells act more like low farad capacitors.
                        So, adding a bunch of low current cells in parallel does not add up to much. And placing them in series will give you voltage, but with no real and useful current. And it takes current to get anywhere with these cells, and not just fluffy voltage.

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                        • My latest cell using the Electric Grease I mention before:

                          Crystal Battery 27a - YouTube

                          Crystal Battery 27b - YouTube

                          Fausto.

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                          • Crystal cell 14 ?

                            Hi Fausto,
                            I watched many of your videos and want to thank you very much for your sharing !
                            Can you tell how long did the number 14 last ?? It was very bright ! Crystal Cell 14 - YouTube

                            JT

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                            • Originally posted by Jules Tresor View Post
                              Hi Fausto,
                              I watched many of your videos and want to thank you very much for your sharing !
                              Can you tell how long did the number 14 last ?? It was very bright ! Crystal Cell 14 - YouTube

                              JT
                              That cell was made on Feb-6-2012 and it ran for about 2 months. I opened it to see the level of corrosion and it did corrode enough to look for better formulas. She is still running open with 4 LEDs but she will die eventually.

                              I think the Carbon/Sand + Electric Grease + Alum is an awesome formula.

                              I still have a cell I made last year using Huntinckson's formula (Alum + Iron Pyrite + Galena + Silica + Silver + Rochelle Salts) and she is running just like day one. All I add is a drop of water when she dries.

                              I have not opened her but I doubt she is as corroded as the other ones since there is no space for a lot water there because I was using the 1/4 " copper cap.

                              Fausto.

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                              • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                                thank you Reddpill for the info .... in line with your post .... a good friend posted the following a while back in a thread:

                                The Effects of Magnetic Water

                                The Effects of Magnetic Water
                                By John V. Milewski


                                What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy.

                                i guess following reddpill's vid ... if it was heated it would align with the earth magnetic field
                                This is exactly what is happening...heating and melting it into a different form WILL have stronger effects (egg, vortex).
                                Also Magnetite is a platontic solid!



                                Pyramid researches throughout the years have also stated that somehow the shape allows for mumification and even effects metals, like the razor blade not going blunt example. I have always thought that it had something to do with how the shape NATRUALLY effects oxgyen.

                                "Magnetite reacts with oxygen to produce hematite, and the mineral pair forms a buffer that can control oxygen fugacity"

                                ^ A key point! And may explain why Iron Pyrite has postive effects on these cells as they are both iron based. Maybe magnetite should be used too as long as it's heated and realigned magneticially for it to directly effect the water within the cells and the crystaline structure of the combined elements in the mix. One only needs to see the huge energy differences of Water when magnetically charged or restructured.

                                Last edited by reddpill; 04-17-2012, 03:39 AM.
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