New Renaissance Prizes offered to encourage Energy experimenters

[PhysicsProf]

@PhysicsProf:

I have just finished reading this entire thread and must say that I am very impressed with the attitude and the apparent good will being presented here. Being fairly new to all this energy stuff and having a great time replicating some of the builds here on this forum. As I have seen stated here a few times, simple is important to involve people like myself. Should a free energy or COP > 1 device be presented that is too complicated and/or a technical challenge to build, who benefits?

I for one would like to see a pay pal donation account set up so that some of us could help in this Endeavour. While we are not all equipped to be discoverers, inventors, or scholarly in the field of energy research, many of us are enthusiastic to replicate.

I do hope that you will consider allowing those who can, to contribute to the cause, even if only a small amount. A monthly or quarterly newsletter to those who have donated informing them of projects being funded and progress of those projects in very general terms might be enough incentive to find donors to assist you.

Happy Holidays to All,
Brad S

GREAT! B-rads and others who have concurred.

And there is a need. There are a number of you willing to donate (along with me) -- and an inventor or two out there with COMPELLING data.

I appreciate the support and enthusiasm. This is a GREAT community of fellow researchers, I find.

Basically, so far, one researcher who has accepted this offer:

1. Provide input Energy (or power) AND Output Energy (our power) MEASUREMENTS that are reproducible by you and acceptable to PhysicsProf (that's me)

2. Willingness to have device tested by a scientist we agree on, AND willing to share with humanity (no patents or long-term non-disclosure agreements).

3. THEN -- I send you 1,000 Euros (or about $1,300), and you ship the device (DUT) to the scientist agreed upon, for independent testing. One European researcher has agreed to this -- and we are now at this point -- he has already shipped the device to a scientist (in France) for testing.
Sorry this is not much at the outset -- and this is negotiable -- but note there is more to come (see below). The idea is to reward the inventor such that he can be awarded for his work, and allow the device to go out freely to mankind. I have discussed this general proposal further on the "Davey heater" thread.

4. IF the device proves to have Eout/Ein > 1, then the inventor is awarded an additional 10,000 Euros (or about $13,000). I will arrange this for two prizes; that's all the commitments I have so far from "angel donors", who want this project to go forward like I -- like we all -- do. Maybe more such awards in the near future...
PLUS I will help him/her to get the overunity.com prize, of which there is only one though. The OU prize is somewhere around 15,000 Euros right now IIRC. PLUS I'll help him/her seek the overunityresearch.com prize, and any other "no control taken" prize we can find out there. We don't want a sell-out to BigOil, etc., which would seek to control or suppress the invention. (I hope that is understandable!)

5. The New Renaissance Prizes (gold and silver eagles) will ALSO be awarded; see post #1. So the above is NEW, and in addition to the prizes previously noted. I have awarded so far FOUR silver eagle prizes (no golden Eagle prizes as yet).

6. IN Addition -- I will be glad to help the inventor to get further funds from e-book sales, kit sales, royalties from distributed manufacture, etc. I have some ideas; probably you have some ideas also. Again, NO PATENTS sought as we are trying to get this out without suffering device suppression.

As noted, these amounts are negotiable and are awarded to encourage the inventor to come forth and make his device freely available to mankind.

Some of you may not like this -- fine, that's OK, but please understand that this proposal is WORKING already. We have one invention IN THE PIPELINE so to speak, as of three days ago. The first 1,000 Euros has already been awarded, and the device sent to a scientist/engineer for testing.

I need to set up a mechanism to allow b_rads and others to become "angel donors" and to contribute... working on it; ideas welcomed. I don't want to funnel contributions through me! A non-profit org I'm told won't work as we are wanting to help provide the inventor a significant profit while at the same time QUICKLY getting the "freedom energy" out to benefit humanity.

See?

[PhysicsProf]

Willy96 (EMDevices) and others who are interested in this program for humanity, with a fair return to the researcher -- outlined in my previous post above -- please email me @ EMDevice12@yahoo.com

Msnman -- thank you for expressing it clearly:

Dr. Jones,

Thank you Dr. Jones for your contributions to the energy discussion and a special thank you for your generous offer to help assist those who have promising ideas. I am new here and I am encouraged by this thread. [snip]

Thanks for your inspiration.

Bless you and yours,
Jim

And those who wish to CONTRIBUTE to the inventor who is willing share his device for the betterment of humanity, pls email me also, same address
EMDevice12@yahoo.com

We'll get 'er done!

[shawnnweed]

thumbs way up

Hi Steve, and everyone that is interested

I have posted a little information from my research here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post175898 here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post175899 and here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post175913

I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts. Thank You for sharing your research with us all.

[mbrownn]

Your welcome, My research has brought me to the conclusion that I need to rethink the operation of the trifilar coil as I believe it is its operation which enables us to use a more standard motor. The circuit I have posted would work if the motor was designed specifically to operate on that voltage and current. Did you notice the energy in the oscillation when compared to the input?

All the motors I have looked at require too much current, have too few turns and have too high resistance to run effectively on this circuit. If I can find a way to step down the voltage without killing the oscillation I will have it cracked. What I need is a low current high voltage motor with little resistance.

The motor I am working on now is a little high in resistance even though it is rated at 2kw but I am hoping that by reducing the friction of the bearings and brushes I will be able to run it on lower current in this circuit. My home made commutator burned up on my last test and I don't really know how to build a PWM circuit and even if I did the resistance of the components may be too high.

[shawnnweed]

Your welcome, My research has brought me to the conclusion that I need to rethink the operation of the trifilar coil as I believe it is its operation which enables us to use a more standard motor. The circuit I have posted would work if the motor was designed specifically to operate on that voltage and current. Did you notice the energy in the oscillation when compared to the input?

All the motors I have looked at require too much current, have too few turns and have too high resistance to run effectively on this circuit. If I can find a way to step down the voltage without killing the oscillation I will have it cracked. What I need is a low current high voltage motor with little resistance.

The motor I am working on now is a little high in resistance even though it is rated at 2kw but I am hoping that by reducing the friction of the bearings and brushes I will be able to run it on lower current in this circuit. My home made commutator burned up on my last test and I don't really know how to build a PWM circuit and even if I did the resistance of the components may be too high.

I wished I could be of more help But here is an idea that might or might not be feasible. Take several motors just like the one you have and charge a battery with it(like a 2k dc sound lab battery). Place the batteries in series until the voltage adds up really high and then power a larger motor or once the voltage is high enough then place a transformer on it to convert the super high voltage into lower voltage and high amperage. Same thing you are already doing and mentioned; just on a higher scale.
,Shawn

[mbrownn]

This circuit is just a partial motor circuit and does not include any charging. The purpose of the posts I made is to help you learn the principals that are needed and some of the problems that have to be overcome. The problem of a step down transformer is that it will rob power from the oscillation and therefore take the power out of the motor.

All the motors I have looked at are effectively high amperage motors, the Ideal motor would have very low resistance and many turns in the coils, and so could run on a very low amperage. This would mean the motor would be large and expensive to produce for its given power rating and that is why we don't see any. This type of motor would burn out if the full power was applied directly to it before it had got up to speed, just like the old motors used to do.

The Lockridge device was clearly a compromise and the trifilar coil obviously compensated for the motors unsuitability but exactly how I am not sure yet, so I am not posting my Ideas on this as it may confuse the issue.

If the Lockridge device was in fact used in AC operation the circuit is a little simpler but the problem of too little amps remains with modern motors.

My circuits should show you that the Lockridge device is truly possible and that peters work was definitely on the right track.

If I totally rewound a universal motor so that it would run effectively on this circuit I would use a 2kw motor and wire it to be about 300 watts or less. If I do solve the trifilar coils function we will be able to use standard off the shelf motors although our excess power will be small due to efficiency losses.

For now i am happy to answer questions and give hints but I wont be posting too much until I have a better understanding of the trifilar coil.

[shawnnweed]

PhysicsProf,

The box is ready. Both High voltage panels are ready and the Amorphous silicon panels are installed. The only thing that is left is to receive the MCPCB. They should be here in 4-7 days. If you want to assist me with assembling the LED's then the help would be greatly appreciated. If not then I will go it alone. I will be taking the 24th-27th as a vacation. If everything is not fully assembled by then; I will be using this vacation to do it. Either way the box should be ready for testing, provided it works, between those days. I will make a confirmation post when the box is running for those who care to witness it, film it, or test it. The test dates should be between those given dates barring setbacks in delivery of the last package. I will also provide a location for testing. And of course if the project fails then I will simply come back and just say it didn't work. Pass or fail I will notify everyone.
,Shawn

A small update... I ran both high voltage panels in series and I did reach the required 365 volts. So far my new calculations are correct. I also received my shipment of MCPCB's from Australia so everything is still running on schedule for testing to take place between the 24th and 27th of January. Last step of connecting the LED's to the MCPCB's is in progress.
,Shawn

[shawnnweed]

LED success

A small update... I ran both high voltage panels in series and I did reach the required 365 volts. So far my new calculations are correct. I also received my shipment of MCPCB's from Australia so everything is still running on schedule for testing to take place between the 24th and 27th of January. Last step of connecting the LED's to the MCPCB's is in progress.
,Shawn

I have successfully connected 4 out of 52 quad MCPCB's; 48 more to go. Because the MCPCB's were so thick the automatic programmed presets on the $275 Infrared heater would not sufficiently heat up the metal for the solder to attach the LED's properly. So I broke out a rather wide $10 frying pan and a $3 infrared heat scanner and cooked the MCPCB's on my stove top (keeping within the manufacturers guidelines for heat / time variations). Good thing that I am a decent cook and can read charts. But hey, where there is a will; there is a way. So anyway, I will go into full scale production tomorrow and finish them all in a couple of hours. If I am feeling frisky I just might wire them in as well and give it a go. I know there is not much interest for this thread but for those faithful few I will keep you posted on progress.

[Slider2732]

And please do

@mbrownn - i'm becoming more and more interested in the Lockridge and your proposed system. Having just built up a 6 coil Bedini for a friend on here (started out as the 3 coil kit that he had trouble soldering up) i'm experimenting with Bedini/White Crow circuits at the moment. The White Crow was the pulse motor I made back in about March last year and that prompted my joining this forum...basically, something of a project i'm returning to because it produced unexpected results. At the moment, a cigarette box sized test circuit is displaying a reduction in amperage as it runs, from 31.7mA at start up, to <30mA over a couple of minutes when running.
In with which, has been an interest in multi-filar coils.
I found this the other day and noted how beautifully simple a design it is:
BOING II - Motor Generator - YouTube
Trifilar, low amperage, very low resistance if a larger gauge of wire was used.
The circuit is linked to in the description.
So, really, I just wondered if your concept is only to be for a conventional off the shelf motor and, if none is available, could it end up being something like a Bedini motor, available as a kit to build ?

Here's my present circuit running, which I aim to introduce a trifilar coil into...presently it triggers using the bifilar. Not really worth a pic, but, we're a bit short on them in this thread



Details:
2x MPS2222A transistors
Blue and red LED's replace conventional Bedini Base/Ground diode to show running
1000 turn bifilar of approx 32 and 36 gauge, welding rod core
Approx 1000 turn cassette player solenoid with steel core as power coil 2 (to be replaced)
1000uF 10V capacitor feeds from 2x 1N4148 at HV output of twin power stages (to be replaced with photoflash type probably).
Germanium diode from positive of cap to positive rail.
3.7V Li-Ion as battery
Anyhow, hence the trifilar interest

[mbrownn]

With the Lockridge device we have to understand several principals before we can succeed.

First a motor runs on current, volts are only required to cause the current to flow, so to make the current flow easier we need very low resistance in the coils.

Impedance/inductance also lowers current but we can get current back from it so that cancels itself out but it does effect frequency, so we need sufficient inductance to get the frequency down to workable levels.

Resonance, we have to get a resonant circuit as this causes an increase in amplitude of the oscillations for a given current. ie. a gain

Recycling. any energy, volts and amps we can recycle by putting back in the source line reduces the input required from the source.

If we build a special motor this is possible but can it be done with a more standard motor?

These things I know how to do but that brings us back to the first point, our gain is in voltage and we have to convert that to current flow. Normally we just use a transformer to do that but the problem in a resonant circuit a transformer robs the energy needed to maintain the resonance.

One of the main functions of the trifilar coil must be to do this. I have seen a video which seems to show a special transformer using three windings performing exactly this function fun with lcs - YouTube Once we have this confirmed, we are one step closer to a self running motor that can produce more power than it consumes. Anyone that wishes to help is welcome to do so as long as you give the information freely.

Slider2732, this looks like a window motor which is a very good example of the recycling that can be done in a motor to make it very very efficient however I believe there is no gain here.

[shawnnweed]

I have successfully connected 4 out of 52 quad MCPCB's; 48 more to go. Because the MCPCB's were so thick the automatic programmed presets on the $275 Infrared heater would not sufficiently heat up the metal for the solder to attach the LED's properly. So I broke out a rather wide $10 frying pan and a $3 infrared heat scanner and cooked the MCPCB's on my stove top (keeping within the manufacturers guidelines for heat / time variations). Good thing that I am a decent cook and can read charts. But hey, where there is a will; there is a way. So anyway, I will go into full scale production tomorrow and finish them all in a couple of hours. If I am feeling frisky I just might wire them in as well and give it a go. I know there is not much interest for this thread but for those faithful few I will keep you posted on progress.

I didn't get the chance to finish today but I managed to get a total of 33 out of 33 up and running. I still have 19 more to go.

[Web000x]

Shawn,

Thanks for continuing to post your progress. I told the professor that I would keep everyone updated, but have not until now. I am halted by the lack of money right now. Although I have seen some interesting phenomena using "junkyard parts", the ferrite is too sluggish for my operating frequencies. Metglas wants $1500 for an MOQ before they'll consider crafting a stock core for me. You'd think that a stock core wouldn't require an MOQ...

Does anybody know where to get square loop cores (preferably of the nanocrystalline type) for cheaper than $1500 to equal the mass of about 500g/2 x 2? Ideally, I would find two cores of 250g but could also use smaller cores and series/parallel windings until I matched my permeable material's desities. I've looked myself, but nobody puts any prices out about these materials. I know that I could get prices from contacting them but also know that there are some of you that have a good source for this material already that doesn't price gouge like Metglas.

Thanks,

Dave

[Gestalt]

Shawn,

Thanks for continuing to post your progress. I told the professor that I would keep everyone updated, but have not until now. I am halted by the lack of money right now. Although I have seen some interesting phenomena using "junkyard parts", the ferrite is too sluggish for my operating frequencies. Metglas wants $1500 for an MOQ before they'll consider crafting a stock core for me. You'd think that a stock core wouldn't require an MOQ...

Does anybody know where to get square loop cores (preferably of the nanocrystalline type) for cheaper than $1500 to equal the mass of about 500g/2 x 2? Ideally, I would find two cores of 250g but could also use smaller cores and series/parallel windings until I matched my permeable material's desities. I've looked myself, but nobody puts any prices out about these materials. I know that I could get prices from contacting them but also know that there are some of you that have a good source for this material already that doesn't price gouge like Metglas.

Thanks,

Dave

I have been scouring the internet and messaging a bunch of companies trying to get quotes for high permeability cores. Electrical Steel, Permalloy, Mu metal & Amorphous metals such as metglas are fairly exotic and there doesn't appear to be many wholesalers or manufacturers in North America. I did track down two companies that may hold promise:

Cogent Power... the leader in design and manufacture of transformer cores and core components including distributed gap core products, toroidal core products and flat-stacked sheet products.
Lamination Material Overview

If anyone knows of any more wholesalers/distributors or manufacturers of custom high permeability materials let me know!

[shawnnweed]

I didn't get the chance to finish today but I managed to get a total of 33 out of 33 up and running. I still have 19 more to go.

Alright, I finished all the LED's. All that is left is wiring them in. I should have an answer within 12 hours.

,Shawn

[mbrownn]

Some interesting developments on the Lockridge thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post177460 Please reed until you get to the end

Armagdn03 has posted a most interesting test on a trifilar coil which may be the configuration that I am looking for fun with lcs - YouTube

Then Garrypm offered to do some testing and I have taken him up on the offer. Thanks again garry.

When pulsing my motor I was unable to get the current required when the frequency for resonance was there. Although the motor produced heat it was not producing power and I burned up my commutator. Armagdn03 has a coil that converts high voltage low current to low voltage High current as far as I can see without killing the resonance. This may well be the means of providing the current in the circuit.

This is getting exciting