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  • #76
    Hi Bizzy, When you do set back up, you might like to try this if you haven't
    already tried it. The change is just the two diodes between the battery and cap
    and the motor drawing from the cap directly. The result should be that the
    capacitor can fluctuate above and below the battery voltage for the amount of
    the diode's voltage drop. So for instance if the diodes had a voltage drop of 0.5
    volts and the battery was at 12.5 volts the cap could go from 12 to 13 volts
    without really affecting the battery. If the cap is big enough then that might be
    enough energy to run the machine. 13 volts across a 30000uF capacitor is 2.535 joules
    and 12 volts in the same cap is 2.16 joules so there is 0.375 joules to play with
    without charging-discharging the battery. I think the principal can be used
    by different modes with voltage drop devices of some other nature maybe as
    well. It would be better if the cap didn't go below the battery voltage, but
    I can't think of any way to do away with that left diode, maybe two diodes in
    series to the battery from the cap would help.



    I think I copied the part of your circuit correctly leaving out the alternator
    rectifiers. If not I apologize.

    Cheers

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
      Hi Bizzy, When you do set back up, you might like to try this if you haven't
      already tried it. The change is just the two diodes between the battery and cap
      and the motor drawing from the cap directly. The result should be that the
      capacitor can fluctuate above and below the battery voltage for the amount of
      the diode's voltage drop. So for instance if the diodes had a voltage drop of 0.5
      volts and the battery was at 12.5 volts the cap could go from 12 to 13 volts
      without really affecting the battery. If the cap is big enough then that might be
      enough energy to run the machine. 13 volts across a 30000uF capacitor is 2.535 joules
      and 12 volts in the same cap is 2.16 joules so there is 0.375 joules to play with
      without charging-discharging the battery. I think the principal can be used
      by different modes with voltage drop devices of some other nature maybe as
      well. It would be better if the cap didn't go below the battery voltage, but
      I can't think of any way to do away with that left diode, maybe two diodes in
      series to the battery from the cap would help.



      I think I copied the part of your circuit correctly leaving out the alternator
      rectifiers. If not I apologize.

      Cheers
      Hi farmhand
      I saw the schematic you drew earlier but don't see it now. Regardless. yes you have the right idea about the switch and drew it correctly
      I have been thinking about doing something similar to what you described but wasn't certain if it would make a differance BUT in reading over your explination I think that has real merit. I will definately try this once I get set back up again in North Carolina.
      I also like the simpilcity of the way you arranged the diodes. Previosuly when i was thinking about the arrangement I was over thinking the whole idea and was actually thinking about retooling the switch itself. I will definately report back on this one thanks
      Bizzy
      Smile it doesn't hurt!

      Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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      • #78
        Disassembly

        Good morning everyone,
        As most of you know it has taken me several years to be able to build my machine to where it is(or was) now. But it has taken just a few days to take it apart and start to box it for shipping. However in a way i am glad i did because i discovered some things I didn't notice before. The biggest problem I found was the steel shaft.
        Originally the 5/8 inch steel shaft had a 1/4 inch hole so I could connect it to the motor coupling. I never had any reason to check it before since it worked well once I built it. However in the course of the few years the hole was "pounded" wider by the bolt holding it in place. There was only a 1/8 inch peice of steel on either side of the shaft. I speculate that within another few weeks of running it would had broken off.
        Although I have started and stopped it probably hundreds of times over the past couple of years I speculate that the actual damage to the shaft happened when the machine actually started running properly. Which means it was pulsed twice per revolution at 5oo+ RPM.
        So I will have to try and re-enforce that when I rebuild the machine.
        Bizzy
        Smile it doesn't hurt!

        Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Bizzy View Post
          However in the course of the few years the hole was "pounded"
          wider by the bolt holding it in place.
          Hold on to your horses.

          Don't throw the old shaft out. As I understand from you, the linkage
          widened so that there was a lot of slack in the coupling. i.e. every
          pulse, there was a bang as the slack was taken up.

          Check out the Chas Campbell system. Here, you have a motor driving
          an alternator using a DELIBERATELY slack pulley belt. It is the banging
          about which creates, God knows how, the excess energy.

          page 4
          http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter4.pdf

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          • #80
            shaft coupling

            Originally posted by wrtner View Post
            Hold on to your horses.

            Don't throw the old shaft out. As I understand from you, the linkage
            widened so that there was a lot of slack in the coupling. i.e. every
            pulse, there was a bang as the slack was taken up.

            Check out the Chas Campbell system. Here, you have a motor driving
            an alternator using a DELIBERATELY slack pulley belt. It is the banging
            about which creates, God knows how, the excess energy.

            page 4
            http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter4.pdf
            Hi Paul
            Yes you are exactly right I think the "banging" at each pulse does help creat energy. At the begining of that same chapter you mentioned by Patrick kelly. It goes into better detail of why that is the case. So I won't bore anyone with my feeble attempt to do so.
            That is why I used the shaft couplings that i did as described in the attached document
            If you look at the side view you will see the outter coupling fits over the inner coupling with bolts holding them in place to the respective shafts.
            the other part of the diagram shows the same coupling assembly but as if you were looking down the shaft. As you can see there is quite a bit of play between the inner and outer coupling so i get that "banging" like Chas Campbell got. In my case I was getting the impact from that pulse twice per revolution. The problem that I was having was with the bolt at the outter coupling as it held the coupling to the shaft to the alternator. The coupling itself was fine but the hole in the shaft is what was ripped open wider. Strangely enough the motor shaft was uneffected. But the alternator shaft may need more work

            Bizzy
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            Last edited by Bizzy; 07-25-2012, 05:46 PM.
            Smile it doesn't hurt!

            Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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            • #81
              Update

              Good morning
              My wife and I visited the city down south where we are to be transfered and liked it. We even have a great deal of our things put away and threw out literally a TON of old stuff we had squirreled away for 19 years and would probably never use. We actually found the perfect house for us BUT... my company came back to me and said the money to transfer us won't be available until until next year


              Like many of you I am constantly getting ideas in my head and in particular about my machine. So to that end I decided to rebuild my machine on a trailer so that I can work on it now and just move it whenever they decide the time is right.
              I simply need to get a hitch on my truck next week so I can get my trailer home from my camp.
              Because I have already built it once before rebuilding should hopefully be easier. I also hope to post more pictures of the construction.
              Have a great day
              Bizzy
              Smile it doesn't hurt!

              Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Bizzy View Post
                I also hope to post more pictures of the construction.
                It is good that the move is going well.

                What would be great would be a picture of the components and
                a picture of them temporarily strung together just for the photgraph.
                I still can't get a handle from your video on your gear.
                Paul-R

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by wrtner View Post
                  It is good that the move is going well.

                  What would be great would be a picture of the components and
                  a picture of them temporarily strung together just for the photgraph.
                  I still can't get a handle from your video on your gear.
                  Paul-R
                  Good morning
                  This past weekend I started rebuilding my machine in the garage. I am using a smaller more compact table so i can just load it onto a trailer and take it to North Carolina when we move.
                  This past weekend I got the shaft bearings and motor installed as well as the rotor and alternator. I need to make some tests in case I need to adjust anything before I install the switch.
                  I have been taking a great many pictures of the unit as I am building. I hope to post some later this week.
                  Bizzy
                  Last edited by Bizzy; 08-13-2012, 04:59 PM.
                  Smile it doesn't hurt!

                  Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                  • #84
                    A question

                    Good morning
                    Since I have been rebuilding my machine I have noticed some fatigue on various parts which I hadn't noticed before. Sometimes it just requires a slight adjustment here or there. However last night while I was tinkering I noticed a problem which has cropped up repeatedly.
                    To hold my trigger magnets in place on the trigger wheel I have been using zinc flashing. I tried using steel at first but found the steel interfers with the magnetic flux too much and I was getting misfires on my switch. As a result I used the zinc because it is non ferris and isn't attracted to magnets. And yes i use the handy man's secrect weapon to hold the magnets in place

                    My problem is that the zinc is not stiff enough and bends after a while. Last night I noticed some of the magnets were ready to fly off again so I had to retape them. I either need to find a better method to hold the magnets in place that will stiffen the zinc or i need to find a stiffer metal that isn't attracted to magnets. I will hoepfully post a pic of the assembly to give you a better dea of what I am talking about , but any suggetsions you could give me in the mean time would be greatly aprreciated.
                    merci vielmals
                    Bizzy
                    Smile it doesn't hurt!

                    Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Bizzy View Post
                      I either need to find a better method to hold the magnets in place that will stiffen the zinc or i need to find a stiffer metal that isn't attracted to magnets.
                      I cannot visualise the situation but a heavy alumium piece might do,
                      possibly cut from the side of a scrapped aluminium saucepan hammered
                      into shape.

                      It is amazing how many things get built with a hard wood. A section from
                      an old scrapped bannister rail is excellent.

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                      • #86
                        Hallo Paul
                        I had thought about using aluminum before. However it would have to be THICK so it wouldn't bend. But previously when I would bend thicker aluminum it would crack at the seem. I have thought about heating it at the bending point but never had a chance to try. Perhaps this would be a good a time as any to try.
                        Thanks
                        Bizzy
                        Smile it doesn't hurt!

                        Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by wrtner View Post
                          I cannot visualise the situation but a heavy alumium piece might do,
                          possibly cut from the side of a scrapped aluminium saucepan hammered
                          into shape.

                          It is amazing how many things get built with a hard wood. A section from
                          an old scrapped bannister rail is excellent.
                          Hi Paul
                          I wanted to give you and everyone following my work an update. I took your advise and found some heavy aluminum sheets and cut them to size. It was a bugger to cut them becau it was too thick to use sheers and so I had to use a fine hacksaw, which took three hours for each magnet mount. BUT they work fantastic...Thanks for the advise paul sometimes we just need a little prodding to do something we already know.

                          I also rebuilt the trigger arm on the switch. I added some lead weight inside so that it will react faster and hopefully increase my amperage going into the motor.

                          I apologize for not posting pictures yet. We have been having problems with our camera and may need to get a new one when we get paid next week. i will keep everyone posted.
                          Bizzy
                          Smile it doesn't hurt!

                          Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Bizzy View Post
                            ... so I had to use a fine hacksaw...
                            I wonder if the blade is worn out. I use a standard hacksaw blade
                            for mild steel and it would get through an aluminium saucepan
                            in no time at all.

                            Angle grinders are good but aluminium is soft and can clog up
                            the disc.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by wrtner View Post
                              I wonder if the blade is worn out. I use a standard hacksaw blade
                              for mild steel and it would get through an aluminium saucepan
                              in no time at all.

                              Angle grinders are good but aluminium is soft and can clog up
                              the disc.
                              Hi Paul,
                              The alunimum was 1/8" thick and had to be cut in a circular pattern which is why I had to use a fine hacksaw blade. It was a new blade...I also had to cut notches along one side so i could bend it easliy after I heated it.
                              Bizzy
                              Smile it doesn't hurt!

                              Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                              • #90
                                more good news

                                Good afternoon
                                As you may have read from my previous posts, one of the problems i was having was that it was too loud for my wifey (Why Isn't it Free Energy Yet I love that ewizard LOL) while i was running it in the basement.

                                However Since I tore it down in preperation to move and now rebuilding it so I can trailer it south it is in the garage. Well i am pleased to report that she cannot hear it running from inside the house. Several times while I was running it and asked if she heard anything and she said no. That means that when I finally get it rebuilt I should be able to run it for much longer with no complaining Woohoo

                                Although once she did come out in the garage while it was running and said it was too loud, so I started talking to her in German and she just sighed and went back int the house. (she doesn't speak German Swiss German or Latin YET but I am trying to teach her)


                                I have a few more weeks worth of work and maybe a few more in testing then I hope to post a new video of the rebuilt machine also showing the amperage going into the motor.
                                Bizzy
                                Smile it doesn't hurt!

                                Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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