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  • #91
    Bedini Generator

    Good morning everyone,
    As always I was doing some lite reading and was looking over John Bedini's work and noticed two things which are germane to my work so I thought I would through it out here and see if you could help answer it....

    BEDINI'S FREE ENERGY GENERATOR

    In the first two diagrams on this page can anyone tell me why John is switching both the positve and negative lines between the motor and the alternator??? Is that better than swicthing just one line?
    And secondly
    in the second diagram he uses a 555 ciruit to switch but he shows two arrows going back and forth between the motor and the alternator does anyone know how he actually has those two hooked up or how is actually switching back and forth?

    Thanks
    Bizzy
    Smile it doesn't hurt!

    Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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    • #92
      Hi Bizzy,

      I think John is switching both sides just to be sure he has total isolation between his motor and energizer when charging the battery and when powering the motor. The second drawing is showing the same thing. The arrows on the right are the double pole double throw contacts of the relay which is being controlled by the 555. The arrows represent the movable contact arm and the dots are the fixed contacts. I am guessing total isolation is not really necessary because of the good results you have gotten with only switching one side.

      C Ya later,
      Carroll
      Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by citfta View Post
        Hi Bizzy,

        I think John is switching both sides just to be sure he has total isolation between his motor and energizer when charging the battery and when powering the motor. The second drawing is showing the same thing. The arrows on the right are the double pole double throw contacts of the relay which is being controlled by the 555. The arrows represent the movable contact arm and the dots are the fixed contacts. I am guessing total isolation is not really necessary because of the good results you have gotten with only switching one side.

        C Ya later,
        Carroll
        Hi Carroll
        I thought the switching of both negative and positive lines may be something like that. i honestly was thinking of doing something like that as well if I had a connectiveity problem. I also was considering switching my lines after the motor on the negative side like you showed me to do with mosfets

        I am still a little confused on the movable arrows how the lines would be connected.

        Also we are still on a holding pattern on when we are supposed to be moving down south.

        Bizzy
        Smile it doesn't hurt!

        Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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        • #94
          Originally posted by citfta View Post
          Hi Bizzy,

          I think John is switching both sides just to be sure he has total isolation between his motor and energizer when charging the battery and when powering the motor.
          It may be an issue that the electricity coming off the "energiser" may be
          cold electrcity whereas that going to the motor is regular stuff.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by wrtner View Post
            It may be an issue that the electricity coming off the "energiser" may be
            cold electrcity whereas that going to the motor is regular stuff.
            Grüeßzei Paul,
            That may be the case here although that opens another can of worms...

            can anyone tell me the differance between "cold electricity" and "regular electricity"?


            ...or how can I test for the differance?
            Merci vielmals
            Bizzy
            Last edited by Bizzy; 08-22-2012, 04:52 PM.
            Smile it doesn't hurt!

            Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Bizzy View Post
              Grüeßzei Paul,
              That may be the case here although that opens another can of worms...

              can anyone tell me the differance between "cold electricity" and "regular electricity"?


              ...or how can I test for the differance?
              Merci vielmals
              Bizzy
              ...with Peter Lindemann around, who would dare?

              Peter: Would you be willing to expound - or give us a link?

              Paul-R.



              p.s. Don't forget, Bizzy, that John Bedini calls it an energiser because
              it is not an alternator as such. It is a different beast.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by wrtner View Post
                ...


                p.s. Don't forget, Bizzy, that John Bedini calls it an energiser because
                it is not an alternator as such. It is a different beast.
                Hi Paul
                Yes I remember John calls it an "energizer" I still call it an alternator only because of the days when I was still building windmills.
                Bizzy
                Smile it doesn't hurt!

                Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                • #98
                  bizzy,

                  i get so confused with the energy from vacuum concept, but after watching your video , i am getting somewhat moved to this which i saw long time ago..
                  what do you think about this fuelless machine.. do you think that this can produce 200-900 watts of excess power ??


                  he says this was built in 5 yrs timeframe off and on by 50 people , with 2 gals .. it took 1and 1/2 year just to be overunity..

                  [www.witts.ws] Self-Running 40kW (40,000 Watt) Fuelless Generator (Full Version) - YouTube


                  he calls the output coils the oscillating (vibrating coils ) , there is capacitor bank and blue box (must be rectifier or switching circuit) and another blue box with electronics..

                  regds


                  what do you think ..

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by hello_all View Post
                    bizzy,

                    i get so confused with the energy from vacuum concept, but after watching your video , i am getting somewhat moved to this which i saw long time ago..
                    what do you think about this fuelless machine.. do you think that this can produce 200-900 watts of excess power ??


                    he says this was built in 5 yrs timeframe off and on by 50 people , with 2 gals .. it took 1and 1/2 year just to be overunity..

                    [www.witts.ws] Self-Running 40kW (40,000 Watt) Fuelless Generator (Full Version) - YouTube


                    he calls the output coils the oscillating (vibrating coils ) , there is capacitor bank and blue box (must be rectifier or switching circuit) and another blue box with electronics..

                    regds


                    what do you think ..
                    Hi hello_all
                    I am with you the "vacuum concept" confuses me too. In fact a great deal of the threads on the forum are way over my head. Don't get me wrong I admire John Bedini and Ufopolitics just to name a few. And I greatly admire thier work, but some of thier ideas and explinations are way out of my league and difficult to understand. I just work with what I know and understand and trust that if I see something happen and study it that it works. I would like to know much of the theory but if i dont understand it completely I don't let it stop me. So my advice to you and everyone is don't get bogged down in the deeper theory unless that is what you want.

                    That being said I watched the video... it is impressive. I am no expert on videos or macines such as this so I can only take it at face value that it works. Perhaps someone out there has actually seen it and can verify or deny such as they did with Chaz Campbell. I do however fully understand the need for secercy on some of the parts in the box. Our own Aaron had problems with someone stealing his idea then turning it back on in him. So caution in revealing one's work is not only understood but recommended.

                    I do think the machine in the video is possible, it looks real and until someone who has seen it or can prove otherwise I can say only that it works...The same goes for my machine. I know it works I have shown it, BUT until someone verifies it people can and have said that it is fake and that is ok. I understand and appreciate that. As I stated there are a couple a people whom I know from the forum, whom I trust and would eagerly show my work (once we move and get the machine set up again down there)
                    I am glad that my work has encouraged you to explore such a machine. Bizzy
                    Smile it doesn't hurt!

                    Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                    • Originally posted by Bizzy View Post
                      Hi hello_all

                      I do think the machine in the video is possible
                      I wouldn't waste time with the witts people. I've not heard
                      anyone with a good word to say about them.

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                      • Great work.

                        I think your device will run for months maybe a year if you find the right harmonic frequency between the alternator and motor till mechanical failure. It should be a good square sine wave. In addition, your shaft(?) is shaking too much which increases friction and reduces the inertia.

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                        • Hi folks, Hi bizzy, believe it or not, this, "So caution in revealing one's work is not only understood but recommended," way of thinking is far more important than any technology will ever be.
                          Fear, was not intended to be used as a strategy for life, its only real purpose, is to maintain the physical body from immediate threats, fight or flight.
                          The world i see generally, is structured upon this strategy of fear and does not work for the good of all.
                          It is always a choice, between fear or love.
                          Myself, I would recommend the path of love, it's much funner and more fruitful. Share all ya got, cause ya can't take it with ya.
                          Hope your device comes along well.
                          peace love light
                          tyson

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                          • Originally posted by wrtner View Post
                            I wouldn't waste time with the witts people. I've not heard
                            anyone with a good word to say about them.
                            Hi Paul
                            As always thank you for your opinion

                            Bizzy
                            Smile it doesn't hurt!

                            Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                            • Originally posted by freepenguin View Post
                              Great work.

                              I think your device will run for months maybe a year if you find the right harmonic frequency between the alternator and motor till mechanical failure. It should be a good square sine wave. In addition, your shaft(?) is shaking too much which increases friction and reduces the inertia.
                              Hi Freepenguin
                              I think that I have found that frequency betwen the motor and alternator/energizer. I agree the machine should continue to run until some techincal failure, Since I have torn it down and been rebuilding it I have found a great many of those failures. Which is why I have been doing some extra tests to try and strengthen those parts so it can run longer before part failure.


                              Unfortunately I don't have any equipment to measure the sine wave. But I do know how the machine is running. On post 57 I posted a drawing of what I thought it may look like.
                              Previous machines like this would shut off power completely then pulse power back into it. Intially I tried that but was getting much lower speeds ...when I added the capacitor at the motor I gained speed. The reason for this I beleive is that...when the switch sends power into motor it is also storing power in the capactor. so that when the switch disengages from motor the motor capacitor continues to send the power it has stored into the motor and allows it to continue running. When the switch cycles through to the next phase it pulses the motor again and charges the motor capicitor...so basically instead of shutting off power then pulsing power into the motor(like previous designs) my circuit allows for continual power to the motor and still pulses power into it.
                              I am not adding any more power to the motor I am just timing it differently than Bedini or Watson did. That is how I am figuring the shape and frequency of my power wave

                              As far as the shaft yes I know it is wobbly. There is nothing at the upper end to stablize it so it goes where it wants. It is my goal to show you additional alternators along that shaft producing excess power
                              Bizzy
                              Last edited by Bizzy; 08-27-2012, 09:22 AM.
                              Smile it doesn't hurt!

                              Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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                              • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                                Hi folks, Hi bizzy, believe it or not, this, "So caution in revealing one's work is not only understood but recommended," way of thinking is far more important than any technology will ever be.
                                Fear, was not intended to be used as a strategy for life, its only real purpose, is to maintain the physical body from immediate threats, fight or flight.
                                The world i see generally, is structured upon this strategy of fear and does not work for the good of all.
                                It is always a choice, between fear or love.
                                Myself, I would recommend the path of love, it's much funner and more fruitful. Share all ya got, cause ya can't take it with ya.
                                Hope your device comes along well.
                                peace love light
                                tyson
                                Hi Tyson
                                In my heart I know you are correct when you say that fear was not intended to be used as a life stratgy. But it is useful in the short run to survive, which is where i am at now.

                                So if my explination to hello_all came out otherwise I apologize. I agree 110% that love is more important than fear. Actually love is more important than anything....And I don't plan on taking my work with me when I go. (of course anyone who reads my notes will have to be able to read German, Swiss german, Englisch and Latin )
                                Bizzy
                                Smile it doesn't hurt!

                                Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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