H2o kit for cars and bikes.

[jaggedE]

hi all,
just came across these people and wanted to know what the members of this community think about it. yes i know its technically HHO but the people of this company call it their h2o kit. probably HHO causes too many questions from people who know nothing about it.

GIRIRAJ SYSTEMS - WATER POWERED CAR IN INDIA, H2o car, HHO Car,H2o Generator,Maruti, Eeco,Suzuki, Access, Honda, Activa, Live, Demo, Video, youtube,UPS, R.O., IONIZATION, SOLAR, POWER, ENERGY, RENEWABLE, SINE WAVE, COMBO, INVAUPS, , SECURITY, SYSTEM,

according to them:
Key Features of GIRIRAJ N-Cad H2o Kit are as under:
No need to service the Unit.
No need to replace the water in side the GIRIRAJ H2o Kit.
No need to flush the Cell / Wash the Cell.
Only water level in the side Bottle is required to be maintained.
Suitable for Petrol, Diesel, CNG or LPG Engines.
Water never changes Color to Yellow / Brown or Dark Brown.
Even after thousands of Miles usage the water in side the Kit is as clear as Fresh Water.
Needs only 1 Ltr. water for Approx. 8,000 Kms running.
Increases Average Approx. 20% to 90%.
Increases Pick-up Power.
Increases Life of Battery.
Increases Life of Engine.
Reduces Engine Noise & Vibration.
Reduces emission.
Available in 12V DC, 24V DC, 110V AC & 230V AC in-put range.
No need of Road Transport Office Approval as on Today.
Approved by Insurance Companies.
Easy to install, your local mechanic can do the job
No modification required like CNG / LPG conversion.

i asked them a bunch of questions by email to which i gold the following answers.

1) i have read a little bit on the work done in HHO by Stanley Myer, Bob Boyce, Dave Lawton and Ravi Raju. i would like to know if your system is in any way similar to theirs?
Ans: No.

2) what electrolyte do you use? your website says that you have to use a special water composition approved by Giriraj systems, what is this special water? will i be able to make it myself or will i have to purchase it from Giriraj Systems regularly?
Ans: In 16-R & L KOH with other combination & in N-Cad Pure Distilled water.

3) how many cars has your system been installed on so far?
Ans: We are supply this product since 2006. Our most of supply is in OEM.

4) how have you tackled the problem of excess heat that arrises in the engine when using hydrogen as a fuel and also the damage caused to the cylinder and pistons after prolonged use with hydrogen.
Ans:Before launch the system we fully test the system & engine & in our system nothing is damaged.

5) how much would it cost to fit the said system in my car?
Pl. check the att. file. (i shall try to attach the file here as well.)

6) do you have different models for different cars or the same one fits on all cars?
Ans: Pl. check the att. file in which we provide you the range up to 3000 cc Engine & we have a range up to 45000 cc Engine.

7) would i have to bring the car to Ahmedabad to fit it or can it be done in my town itself?
Ans: No. Our Manufacturing unit located at Surat but we do not install system at our works. We provide complete installation manual with our kit & your local mechanic can do the job very easily.

8) would it be possible for me to come to Ahmedabad and take a look at your workshop?
Ans: You are most wel-come at surat We can show you the complete range of H2o Kit but Factory visit is Strictly restricted.

i have a lot of theories about what these people might be using but since im an amateur compared to you people id rather not state the obvious.

could anyone give me their impressions about this product.

thanks
cheers
JaggedE

[wrtner]

hi all,
just came across these people and wanted to know what the members of this community think about it. yes i know its technically HHO but the people of this company call it their h2o kit. probably HHO causes too many questions from people who know nothing about it.

Hydroxy gas is possibly the best name but someone claims ownership
of the word "hydroxy". Quite absurd, in my view,

I would ask three extra questions; which item in this chapter does
the product most resemble?

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf

Secondly, what is the current draw and what is the litres per
minute when that current is being used?

Thirdly, which cars are supplied with their gear fitted?

[jaggedE]

Hydroxy gas is possibly the best name but someone claims ownership
of the word "hydroxy". Quite absurd, in my view,

I would ask three extra questions; which item in this chapter does
the product most resemble?

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf

Secondly, what is the current draw and what is the litres per
minute when that current is being used?

Thirdly, which cars are supplied with their gear fitted?

i spoke to him on the phone as well, and it is becoming clear from what he's saying that he doesnt wish to reveal too much about his process. i do not believe he will take the trouble to go through chapter 10 of "The Book" and if he does he will not reveal much more than he already has.

what interests me in his technology is that in his N Cad series (Nickel Cadmium?) he is using plain distilled water as electrolyte, implying something other than conventional electrolysis, his water is not changing color and is remaining clean (electrodes are not reacting).

further he says 1 liter water runs for 8000 kms, i think i read somewhere that 1 Liter water produces 1200 Litres of HHO which is consumed over 8000 kms meaning .15 L of HHO per Km.

supposing the car gives a milage of 16Km/L that works out to .06 L per km giving the ratio of HHO to Petrol (Gasolene) as 1:2.5 in favor of HHO

furthermore driving at an average speed of 70 Km/H (which is known for best milage) he uses up 70 x .15 = 10.5 L of HHO in one hour. and again .17 L/Minute. nothing extraordinary there.

so perhaps the question we should be asking is can .17L/ Minute of HHO gas give milage gains in the range of 20-90 % as hes claiming?

i shall also try and get him to give me a less speculative answer on how much HHO is being produced per minute. because looking back at my own calculations, im taking a lot of things for granted.

[jaggedE]

for some reason when i edit my post it doesnt get edited.

anyway what i wanted to add was that he claims his technology has nothing to do with stanley myer or any of the others but is that possible with simple distilled water as the electrolyte?

[wrtner]

for some reason when i edit my post it doesnt get edited.

Did you press the "save" button?

[ewizard]

for some reason when i edit my post it doesnt get edited.

anyway what i wanted to add was that he claims his technology has nothing to do with stanley myer or any of the others but is that possible with simple distilled water as the electrolyte?

That's an issue here sometimes. Solution: go to advanced edit and then make changes and Save.

[totoalas]

Lpm test 100% hydrogen and then HHO

for some reason when i edit my post it doesnt get edited.

anyway what i wanted to add was that he claims his technology has nothing to do with stanley myer or any of the others but is that possible with simple distilled water as the electrolyte?

lpm test 100% hydrogen and then HHO - YouTube

i THINK only Stanley Meyer and Dingel has made it so far