Stan Meyer Bifilar Chokes

[Aaron]

AaronsDesign4.pdf

I'll try to get that doc. That is a different Aaron by the way in case anyone is wondering. Aaron Hall in the H2Earth.org skype chat is doing great work. I'll post a link or upload somewhere if I can get it.

[Aaron]

Aaron's design4

I can't comment on what this circuit will do, but here it is:

http://furvert.net/JHootenConsulting...onsDesign4.pdf

[passion1]

Aaron

I would like to give your "Single core layout" a try!
What gauge wire would you recommend and how many windings for the primary & secondary as well as for the inductors?
Would you wind the secondary on top of the primary, but the inductors bifilar, i.e. the two wires next to each other?

Just after I posted my question above, I saw your words:
"If both are bifilar, then primary/secondary are wrapped together and the 2 chokes are wrapped together."

So I assume both the primary/secondary and chokes are all wrapped bifilar?

[Aaron]

single core

Hi Passion1,

This is the same style I'm working on now.

On one side of core are the bifilar primary/secondary.

On the other side, bifilar chokes.

Chokes have to be so that when everything is charged Norths
are diagonal...otherwise when primary is charged, chokes will emit north field opposing field from power coils.

I am mostly interested in this unicore method in addition to the rotary method but am not going to mess with the rotary method yet.

[Aaron]

windings for unicore

Passion1,

windings, etc... I would do as close to what Meyer's describes in his writings.

I am not very good at calculating out what length, etc... is best, awg, size of core, etc... there are a lot of online calculators that make that easy.

There is a dual bifilar with a unicore setup already made that I will test for this application. actually 2 quadfilars but will use them as bifilar. If I were to start from scratch and wind from scratch, I'm not sure. JH is a good one to ask in the h2earth skype chat.

[Aaron]

size of chokes - very important

According to Meyer, each of his chokes were 11.6k ohms or 11,600! That is huge resistance for a coil.

At 44 awg copper wire, that is about 4600 feet long each. at 58 awg about 170 feet or at 60awg it is about 107 feet long.

I wouldn't use too small of wire (bigger awg #) because too fragile and for practical purposes.

Anyway, that is a LOT of wire.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Meyer says he is NOT using resistive element to reduce volts as resistance consumes power..like a resistor. INSTEAD, he is using the MAGNETIC Field in the choke coils to choke the current. This isn't a secret but I say this so that people aren't mislead into thinking that because the coils are huge resistance (11.6k ohms) that is is all about resistance. When the coils are charged, there is impedance...back emf that his holding back current. So please take note of this.

Also, NOBODY that I know of is using chokes this big so if people want to do it Meyer style, it would be a good idea to use chokes this big.

At 44 AWG, pretty small wire itself...that is almost 10,000 feet of wire for BOTH chokes!!

Meyer specifically to get more voltage to the cell for same input...increase turns on chokes.

[scoodidabop]

Aaron,

what is the "rectifier" and "rheostat" used for in your drawings?

[man70]

Choke

HI Aaron!
Thank You for Your help to my. Now I want ask You about the importance direction of winding coils on magnetic core ( primary , secondary and two bifilar chokes ) for vic . In Your video 'Back EMF vs Collapsed Spikes', posted September 05, 2007 first pic show two different way direction of winding coil . Right coil is cross out - why? Is this direction of winding coil not working for Stan Meyer vic or for phenomena - field collapses and reverses polarity-? .Must I wind coil only by way show in pic - left side?
I am sorry for my bad english.
Please about Your answer.
Thank You
All the best for You
man70

[Aaron]

rectifier and rheostat

Aaron,

what is the "rectifier" and "rheostat" used for in your drawings?

Just keeping consistent with Meyer's drawings.

[gabriolaman]

According to Meyer, each of his chokes were 11.6k ohms or 11,600! That is huge resistance for a coil.

At 44 awg copper wire, that is about 4600 feet long each. at 58 awg about 170 feet or at 60awg it is about 107 feet long.

I wouldn't use too small of wire (bigger awg #) because too fragile and for practical purposes.

Anyway, that is a LOT of wire.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Meyer says he is NOT using resistive element to reduce volts as resistance consumes power..like a resistor. INSTEAD, he is using the MAGNETIC Field in the choke coils to choke the current. This isn't a secret but I say this so that people aren't mislead into thinking that because the coils are huge resistance (11.6k ohms) that is is all about resistance. When the coils are charged, there is impedance...back emf that his holding back current. So please take note of this.

Also, NOBODY that I know of is using chokes this big so if people want to do it Meyer style, it would be a good idea to use chokes this big.

At 44 AWG, pretty small wire itself...that is almost 10,000 feet of wire for BOTH chokes!!

Meyer specifically to get more voltage to the cell for same input...increase turns on chokes.

thats not huge resistance for a coil most automotive ignition coil secondary winding is in that range even higher in high performance like double

i was wondering if you might share any meyers papers you might have that i might not have

[Aaron]

Ignition coil choke

I came up with a simple way to use an ignition coil as a choke. I recommended it to a few people and they did get the highest voltage readings on the cell they ever saw...few hundred volts, but much higher than 2-4volts!

The diode on + side, goes to the low voltage input + on the ignition coil...then the high voltage output goes to the + on the cell... neg terminal not needed...using it in series as a choke. Many people won't wind these coils as they need a lot of turns, but yes, the ignition coils are already in the 10k+ ohms range.

[elf]

Can anyone out there provide these circuits?

I have a Pulse Freq. Generator. But, it does not have the Bifilar Chokes, and the Voltage Intensifier circuit. Can anyone out there provide the “rest of the circuitry”? I have reviewed the video (Stan Meyer WFC Bifilar Chokes), but I am not really sure exactly what I am looking at. I built and installed a working electrolyzer in an 8,000 lb. Custom Van. It has been working fine for several months. 22% better mileage. I want to make and install a High volt, High freq, low amp tube unit.

I need the circuits in this video, and at the beginning of this post by Aaron.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozpRN...ater_Fuel_Cell

Thank you,

Norm
elf@access4less.net

[octavian]

Linear circuit?

Is this circuit a linear circuit? if not what is it?

[Jetijs]

Maybe it would help if you explained what exactly do you mean with "linear circuit"

[rick123]

chokes

One of the chokes is "variable"? Do you accomplish this by building an adjustable core (sliding or scewing it in and out)? This would allow you to adjust the impedance? Am I thinking about this the right way? or am I way off? Thanks